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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 10:00 pm
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I imagine Patera had a grudging respect for Mr Bobby Backlund's strength but also thought him a goody-two-shoes

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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 10:35 pm
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Probably only gave him a "leetlebeetadacoke"

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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 10:41 pm
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See to me Patera had great matches with a variety of styles -- Bruno, Backlund, Patterson, Morales -- and I see that as a testamanet to his abilities

Anyone ever see the "feats of strength" "skit" with him and Tony Atlas -- it's on the Mid Atlantic 1978 Year In Review - *GREAT* stuff

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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 10:43 pm
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BigJ wrote: Probably only gave him a "leetlebeetadacoke"


hahahaha LOL   you know it

"watch this Afa, I'm gonna get Backlund jacked!"

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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2008 11:41 pm
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beejmi wrote:
Anyone ever see the "feats of strength" "skit" with him and Tony Atlas -- it's on the Mid Atlantic 1978 Year In Review - *GREAT* stuff


That was on YouTube for awhile, not sure if it is still there. That was excellent mic work there by him. Just an amazing performance. He was really good on the mic. I think his rep as not being so in recent years is that clip on YouTube where the guy who posted it titled it "Patera murders a promo" or some such nonesense with Gene Okerlund. There was nothing wrong with it. It's just 'cause the guy who posted it on YouTube said it did and everyone just thinks they're a big smark for agreeing with him.
Patera was just naturally born to be the HEEL. And he was one of the best for his time IMO. Just watch that Mid Atlantic footage of the feats of strength with Atlas. I can't stress how amazing he played that angle. He should have gotten an Emmy or something for that IMO.
Also thought he work in the ring was great too. As some have already mentioned he could adapt and have great matches with different opponents with different styles.
Also I agree with everyone else about his return after jail that "it was over" for him...BUT who knows what could have happened if they didn't turn him babyface, maybe he could have gotten red hot again and had a good run against Hogan. Could you imagine though if he never went to jail and came back to the WWF after his run in the AWA was over? I think he could have gotten over enough to main evented a Wrestlemania against Hogan...if not Mania, then SummerSlam, Survivor Series or one of the other big PPV's of the day. Maybe even a match against Hogan on a Friday night prime time Main Event show.
What do you guys' think? Do you think there was HUGE money to be made between him and Hogan if he never decided to go to MickyDees that night with Saito? IMO I do.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 16th, 2008 12:15 am
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Patera wrestled Hogan during Hogan's first title run. It is largely forgotten. I remember being surprised that Patera was "one and done" against Hogan. I was expecting a "three match series".

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carpetbeggar wrote: beejmi wrote:
Anyone ever see the "feats of strength" "skit" with him and Tony Atlas -- it's on the Mid Atlantic 1978 Year In Review - *GREAT* stuff


That was on YouTube for awhile, not sure if it is still there. That was excellent mic work there by him. Just an amazing performance. He was really good on the mic. I think his rep as not being so in recent years is that clip on YouTube where the guy who posted it titled it "Patera murders a promo" or some such nonesense with Gene Okerlund. There was nothing wrong with it. It's just 'cause the guy who posted it on YouTube said it did and everyone just thinks they're a big smark for agreeing with him.

Nah, nah, the promo's bad.  Has nothing to do with being a big smark.  I'm a much bigger mark than I am a smark.  And if Patera were in the room I'd want his autograph and a pic.  I'd also want him to know how pissed I am as a fan that 3 good years (or thereabouts) were taken away from us fans because of a damned cheeseburger.

I'd word it carefully though.  Guy's unstable.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 16th, 2008 01:00 am
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BigJ wrote:
carpetbeggar wrote: beejmi wrote:
Anyone ever see the "feats of strength" "skit" with him and Tony Atlas -- it's on the Mid Atlantic 1978 Year In Review - *GREAT* stuff


That was on YouTube for awhile, not sure if it is still there. That was excellent mic work there by him. Just an amazing performance. He was really good on the mic. I think his rep as not being so in recent years is that clip on YouTube where the guy who posted it titled it "Patera murders a promo" or some such nonesense with Gene Okerlund. There was nothing wrong with it. It's just 'cause the guy who posted it on YouTube said it did and everyone just thinks they're a big smark for agreeing with him.

I'd also want him to know how pissed I am as a fan that 3 good years (or thereabouts) were taken away from us fans because of a damned cheeseburger.

I'd word it carefully though.  Guy's unstable.


I totally agree with that. It was such a waste of talent...and income on his end. I can't remember all the facts of the whole clusterfuck that night but was Saito and him drunk or high when this all went down or was it just your run of the mill psycho meltdown?
Speaking of Saito, he was able to recover somewhat of the experience and even got an AWA World Title reign when it was all said and done. What was the exact amount of time each of them served and were they in the same prison and able to socialize during their time in there? Did Ken talk about his time behind bars much in his shoot?

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carpetbeggar wrote: BigJ wrote:
carpetbeggar wrote: beejmi wrote:
Anyone ever see the "feats of strength" "skit" with him and Tony Atlas -- it's on the Mid Atlantic 1978 Year In Review - *GREAT* stuff


That was on YouTube for awhile, not sure if it is still there. That was excellent mic work there by him. Just an amazing performance. He was really good on the mic. I think his rep as not being so in recent years is that clip on YouTube where the guy who posted it titled it "Patera murders a promo" or some such nonesense with Gene Okerlund. There was nothing wrong with it. It's just 'cause the guy who posted it on YouTube said it did and everyone just thinks they're a big smark for agreeing with him.

I'd also want him to know how pissed I am as a fan that 3 good years (or thereabouts) were taken away from us fans because of a damned cheeseburger.

I'd word it carefully though.  Guy's unstable.


I totally agree with that. It was such a waste of talent...and income on his end. I can't remember all the facts of the whole clusterfuck that night but was Saito and him drunk or high when this all went down or was it just your run of the mill psycho meltdown?
Speaking of Saito, he was able to recover somewhat of the experience and even got an AWA World Title reign when it was all said and done. What was the exact amount of time each of them served and were they in the same prison and able to socialize during their time in there? Did Ken talk about his time behind bars much in his shoot?

They were not in the same prison.  I had a friend who was in there with Saito, he's only heard of Masa becasuse of being in jail with him.  He never watched wrestling and had never heard of Patera.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 16th, 2008 02:09 am
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amerorig wrote:
carpetbeggar wrote: BigJ wrote:
carpetbeggar wrote: beejmi wrote:
Anyone ever see the "feats of strength" "skit" with him and Tony Atlas -- it's on the Mid Atlantic 1978 Year In Review - *GREAT* stuff


That was on YouTube for awhile, not sure if it is still there. That was excellent mic work there by him. Just an amazing performance. He was really good on the mic. I think his rep as not being so in recent years is that clip on YouTube where the guy who posted it titled it "Patera murders a promo" or some such nonesense with Gene Okerlund. There was nothing wrong with it. It's just 'cause the guy who posted it on YouTube said it did and everyone just thinks they're a big smark for agreeing with him.

I'd also want him to know how pissed I am as a fan that 3 good years (or thereabouts) were taken away from us fans because of a damned cheeseburger.

I'd word it carefully though.  Guy's unstable.


I totally agree with that. It was such a waste of talent...and income on his end. I can't remember all the facts of the whole clusterfuck that night but was Saito and him drunk or high when this all went down or was it just your run of the mill psycho meltdown?
Speaking of Saito, he was able to recover somewhat of the experience and even got an AWA World Title reign when it was all said and done. What was the exact amount of time each of them served and were they in the same prison and able to socialize during their time in there? Did Ken talk about his time behind bars much in his shoot?

They were not in the same prison.  I had a friend who was in there with Saito, he's only heard of Masa becasuse of being in jail with him.  He never watched wrestling and had never heard of Patera.


What did he say Masa was like in there? Did get a lot of respect from the other prisoners? I would imagine he kept to himself most of the time and worked out a lot?

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 Posted: Wed Jan 16th, 2008 02:19 am
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To be honest, the guy I know was a massive burnout.  But he did say that Masa used to run track a lot, but he was a pretty nice guy.  He did say that no one bothered him at all.

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amerorig wrote:
To be honest, the guy I know was a massive burnout.  But he did say that Masa used to run track a lot, but he was a pretty nice guy.  He did say that no one bothered him at all.


What's his story anyway? Is he an American citizen or was he technically a Japanese citizen when it happened and is he fluent in English?
Sorry for hijacking the thread a bit here with all the Masa questions but he's someone you never see discussed much on wrestling boards. I always enjoyed him as a 'rassler and thought he wasn't that bad. He definatly carried his team with Mr. Fugi in the early 80's of the WWF IMO.

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Now like I said, I get this from a Acid burnout case...but He said that he understood that Masa was still a Japanese citizen, and that he knew that he wouldn't be allowed to return to the USA when he was released. 

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Patera was a convincing heel and was great at selling. When he came back in 87 from the slammer he was in amazing shape, but his physique and ring work both went down the shitter pretty quickly. I'd like to forget his later reign as one half of the AWA tag champs, horrible stuff. I'll always remember the TNT skit with him holding back the van that Vince (;)) was driving.

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jamiemark wrote:
I'll always remember the TNT skit with him holding back the van that Vince (;)) was driving.

Yup, that is one of my favorite Patera and McMahon moments too. Great stuff.

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