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 Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 09:05 pm
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BigJ wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: clawmaster wrote: 2. Shane McMahon goes to TNA after his WWE contract expires on New Years day.

This is preposterous.

Not if the McMahons are already halfway bankrolling the promotion as a quasi-developmental without anyone knowing it.

Which, mark my words, is happening.
At least people in the wrestling business who think this have an excuse to think this because they're convinced that life is a work.

You don't have that excuse.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 06:13 pm
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The internal WWE reaction to Hulk Hogan signing with TNA was that it was a major mistake on TNA's part and that Hogan and Eric Bischoff would be out for themselves, not the promotion.  There was no major sense of shock among those backstage at the Smackdown taping when the news came out. 



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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 06:46 pm
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Bix wrote:
BigJ wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: clawmaster wrote: 2. Shane McMahon goes to TNA after his WWE contract expires on New Years day.

This is preposterous.

Not if the McMahons are already halfway bankrolling the promotion as a quasi-developmental without anyone knowing it.

Which, mark my words, is happening.
At least people in the wrestling business who think this have an excuse to think this because they're convinced that life is a work.

You don't have that excuse.


Weren't they kind of sort of halfway bankrolling the old ECW on the sly?



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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 07:00 pm
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Heretic wrote: Bix wrote:
BigJ wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: clawmaster wrote: 2. Shane McMahon goes to TNA after his WWE contract expires on New Years day.

This is preposterous.

Not if the McMahons are already halfway bankrolling the promotion as a quasi-developmental without anyone knowing it.

Which, mark my words, is happening.
At least people in the wrestling business who think this have an excuse to think this because they're convinced that life is a work.

You don't have that excuse.


Weren't they kind of sort of halfway bankrolling the old ECW on the sly?

That wasn't the secret people pretend that it is.

Besides, if that was the case, wouldn't more TNA talent end up in WWE?  Wouldn't we have not had things like the Braden Walker debacle?

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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 11:15 pm
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Bix wrote: Heretic wrote: Bix wrote:
BigJ wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: clawmaster wrote: 2. Shane McMahon goes to TNA after his WWE contract expires on New Years day.

This is preposterous.

Not if the McMahons are already halfway bankrolling the promotion as a quasi-developmental without anyone knowing it.

Which, mark my words, is happening.
At least people in the wrestling business who think this have an excuse to think this because they're convinced that life is a work.

You don't have that excuse.


Weren't they kind of sort of halfway bankrolling the old ECW on the sly?

That wasn't the secret people pretend that it is.

Besides, if that was the case, wouldn't more TNA talent end up in WWE?  Wouldn't we have not had things like the Braden Walker debacle?

It wasn't half a secret or 10% of a secret really.  When you have the WWF sending guys they can't get over down to ECW and Rick Rude appearing on both shows every week, you know they're working together for a fact and it's not a major leap to conclude that money be changing hands too.  



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 Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 11:54 pm
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srossi wrote:
Bix wrote: Heretic wrote: Bix wrote:
BigJ wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: clawmaster wrote: 2. Shane McMahon goes to TNA after his WWE contract expires on New Years day.

This is preposterous.

Not if the McMahons are already halfway bankrolling the promotion as a quasi-developmental without anyone knowing it.

Which, mark my words, is happening.
At least people in the wrestling business who think this have an excuse to think this because they're convinced that life is a work.

You don't have that excuse.


Weren't they kind of sort of halfway bankrolling the old ECW on the sly?

That wasn't the secret people pretend that it is.

Besides, if that was the case, wouldn't more TNA talent end up in WWE?  Wouldn't we have not had things like the Braden Walker debacle?

It wasn't half a secret or 10% of a secret really.  When you have the WWF sending guys they can't get over down to ECW and Rick Rude appearing on both shows every week, you know they're working together for a fact and it's not a major leap to conclude that money be changing hands too.  

Are we starting another vortex?



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 Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 12:01 am
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Heretic wrote: srossi wrote:
Bix wrote: Heretic wrote: Bix wrote:
BigJ wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: clawmaster wrote: 2. Shane McMahon goes to TNA after his WWE contract expires on New Years day.

This is preposterous.

Not if the McMahons are already halfway bankrolling the promotion as a quasi-developmental without anyone knowing it.

Which, mark my words, is happening.
At least people in the wrestling business who think this have an excuse to think this because they're convinced that life is a work.

You don't have that excuse.


Weren't they kind of sort of halfway bankrolling the old ECW on the sly?

That wasn't the secret people pretend that it is.

Besides, if that was the case, wouldn't more TNA talent end up in WWE?  Wouldn't we have not had things like the Braden Walker debacle?

It wasn't half a secret or 10% of a secret really.  When you have the WWF sending guys they can't get over down to ECW and Rick Rude appearing on both shows every week, you know they're working together for a fact and it's not a major leap to conclude that money be changing hands too.  

Are we starting another vortex?

Oh brother.



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 Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 12:14 am
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Bix wrote:
BigJ wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: clawmaster wrote: 2. Shane McMahon goes to TNA after his WWE contract expires on New Years day.

This is preposterous.

Not if the McMahons are already halfway bankrolling the promotion as a quasi-developmental without anyone knowing it.

Which, mark my words, is happening.
At least people in the wrestling business who think this have an excuse to think this because they're convinced that life is a work.

You don't have that excuse.


You're quote is worthy of a signature. Done.



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 Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:26 am
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I'd rather watch Hogan and Flair bury people than watch the current TNA anyway. I might actually watch that shit now.

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LAF wrote: I'd rather watch Hogan and Flair bury people than watch the current TNA anyway. I might actually watch that shit now.
I can guarantee Flair won't be the one burying anyone.  I can see him jobbing to Sting 115 more times though.  If anyone's doing the burying it will be Hogan.



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It's like Hogan and Flair have opposite problems. Hogan's destroyed his reputation because he won't job to anyone. Flair's destroyed his reputation because there's nobody he won't job to.



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Heretic wrote: It's like Hogan and Flair have opposite problems. Hogan's destroyed his reputation because he won't job to anyone. Flair's destroyed his reputation because there's nobody he won't job to.
It's never about the job, it's about what happens after it.  You can stay strong and still job, as Flair did throughout the '80s when he was used to make 75% of JCP stars.  But when you job to a guy who's clearly not going anywhere, like when he jobbed to Rico or when Kurt Angle jobbed to Jay Lethal for a good TNA example, then it does absolutely nothing for the guy who beat you but it hurts your reputation a lot.  TNA has no conception of that, and Flair will do anything for a pay day, so this will get ugly.  Flair will probably job to Kiyoshi his first day in the company and the next week Kiyoshi will be squashed by Amazing Red.



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 Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 09:32 am
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DaNkinator wrote: http://www.pwinsiderelite.com/article.php?id=42574&p=1

He also added that "Terry and Eric won't make the same mistakes that they made at WCW."
Thanks to Nick Ferro for his help with this story.


Translation: he will NEVER allow himself to lose any matches, or titles as long as he's there.



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It's like Hogan and Flair have opposite problems. Hogan's destroyed his reputation because he won't job to anyone. Flair's destroyed his reputation because there's nobody he won't job to.

It's actually the same problem- ego.

Hogan wouldn't job because he felt he needed to dominate to be strong.

Flair did jobs and made jobbers look ridiculously good in TV matches because he felt like his persona (or whatever) was so strong that he could give someone like Mike Jackson 75% of the offense on TV and he'd still be OK.

Hogan was closer to "being right" on this one. To the average fan in the 80's, Hogan was far better than Flair, and thus the WWF was better than the NWA.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 09:40 pm
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LAF wrote: I'd rather watch Hogan and Flair bury people than watch the current TNA anyway. I might actually watch that shit now.
I agree with LAF. I don't watch TNA. Never have. But head to head on Monday night with WWE would get my interest. The train wreck possibilities are endless.



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