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 Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 11:34 pm
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Okay, how many of you remember Brazil's run in the mid-70's? 

He teamed with SD Jones didn't he?  Were they in one of the fictitious tagteam tournaments? Was that for the belts stripped from the Executioners?  Were they in the finals? 

I always liked Bobo's move of being thrown into the turnbuckle and then as the other wrestler came running in, he would lift his leg onto the guy's shoulderblade and then use his other leg and pound the other guy on top of the head. 

Did he get shots at Graham?  I have not seen too much footage of Bobo around during this run?  Has 24/7 shown any Bobo matches from this time period. 

I think he may have made more than one run in the mid-late 1970's.

Feedback welcomed.



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One Bobo defense I have seen is vs. Crusher Blackwell at MSG on the 3/1/76 card. Not sure about any other video available from that era, though.

 

Kind of cool side note...I was watching some AWA TV from 1980-81 and saw a Chicago card with a Bobo-Blackwell matchup advertised. They had a Blackwell interview talking about the time that they had faced each other before, and the reference was clearly to the MSG match. Neat because it was five years before and in a different territory.



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Bobo and Graham wrestled only 3 times that I have ever located for grahams career.

February 13, 1976  New London, CT
Superstar Billy Graham won by COR over Bobo Brazil


July 16, 1977  Baltimore, MD
WWWF Champion Superstar Billy Graham beat Bobo Brazil


Then Graham goes right into the Sheiks territory and defends.  At this point in time, sadly the Sheiks territory is burning out.

December 18, 1977  Detroit, MI - Cobo Arena - att: 3,300
Don Kent beat Nelson Royal
Ox Baker beat Tony Parisi
Ron Fuller beat The Assasin
Luis Martinez, Crusher Verdue drew Killer Brooks, Bulldog Brower
The Butcher DDQ'd Ed George
The Sheik won by COR over Prince Maivia
Bobo Brazil won by DQ over WWWF Champion Superstar Billy Graham



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He wrestled on TV often when he first came on the scene.  That was 1976?  Wow!  I know he also teamed with S.D. (Special Delivery)Jones at a point in time, also.  I am pretty sure it was the tournament when The Executioners were stripped of the title. That may have been a second run.



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Papa Voo wrote:
Okay, how many of you remember Brazil's run in the mid-70's? 

He teamed with SD Jones didn't he?  Were they in one of the fictitious tagteam tournaments? Was that for the belts stripped from the Executioners?  Were they in the finals? 

...Has 24/7 shown any Bobo matches from this time period. 

First live show I went to had an Executioners vs, Bobo & SD match on it in fall of '76.

Here are some key dates during the Executioners tag run;
5/11/76; The Executioners defeated WWWF Tag Team Champions Tony Parisi & Louis Cerdan to win the titles.
10/26/76: The Executioners were stripped of the belts following a title defense in Hamburg, PA against Chief Jay Strongbow & Billy White Wolf in which a third Executioner (Nikolai Volkoff) joined in attacking the challengers.
12/7/76 Philadelphia; Chief Jay Strongbow & Billy Whitewolf defeated the Executioners and Nikolai Volkoff & Tor Kamata in a three-team tournament to win the vacant WWWF Tag Team titles.


They did have some kind of "tournament" (fictitious I believe) when Strongbow & Whitewolf were stripped of the titles (due to Patera "ending" Whitewolf's career) in Aug.'77, but I don't think Bobo was involved.

24/7 has aired a Feb.'76 All Star Wrestling show that had Bobo vs. Hans Schroeder (Lou Albano causes trouble and attacks Bobo during the match), the Feb '76 MSG card (Bobo & Parisi vs. Blackwell & McGraw), and the Mar '76 MSG card (Bobo vs. Blackwell). During this timeframe he was billed as the "United States champion" but did not have a belt with him.

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as far as I can tell, there is absolutely NO footage of the Executioners available yet..

there is a YouTube of an MSG six-man tag w/Bruiser Brody but that is it

24/7 needs to release the TV taping with the third Executioner...

great stuff, great memories

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24/7 needs to release the TV taping with the third Executioner...

My God I am so with you.

Everybody besides you and me would probably see it today and say "What a screwjob" but I would geek for this big-time.

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beejmi wrote: 24/7 needs to release the TV taping with the third Executioner...

My God I am so with you.

Everybody besides you and me would probably see it today and say "What a screwjob" but I would geek for this big-time.

I'd love to see that I remember it vividly still.  Great stuff for the 1970's



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what was great about that match is that we all realized the belts would probably change hands that day-  whenever they showed a genuine tag-title match on TV it was time for new champions

so when the 3rd Executioner came out from under the ring I freaked...no title for Chief Jay and Billy!!  it wasn't supposed to happen that way!

great storyline

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The third Executioner was yet another one of those moments that WWWF 70's fans would want to see.  I would love to see the following released on one DVD:

 

Arion heel turn on Strongbow & Sammartino

 

Nevermind....I will start a new thread on this.

 

Getting back to Bobo.  I am almost positive that Brazil and SD teamed and were considered contenders for the belts via the tournament.  The fictitious part was where they would say that there teams from all over the world competing in this tourament, but they were never announced or shown on TV.  I think they may haved faced and lost to Kamata and Volkoff.

I sometimes get this mixed up with the tournament when the Samoans won the titles back after losing it to Backlund & Morales. 



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Ron wrote:
February 13, 1976  New London, CT
Superstar Billy Graham won by COR over Bobo Brazil


July 16, 1977  Baltimore, MD
WWWF Champion Superstar Billy Graham beat Bobo Brazil

Expanding on that a little, looking at result listings on Cawthon's site, Bobo only had two MSG and two other Baltimore apps., plus the ones Ron listed,in WWWF territory in '77, so he really wasn't even in the territory much.

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... I am almost positive that Brazil and SD teamed and were considered contenders for the belts via the tournament.  The fictitious part was where they would say that there teams from all over the world competing in this tourament, but they were never announced or shown on TV. 
It's possible they used that as part of the backstory. I think the 12/7/76 date and the whole "tournament" was fictitious anyway. In the '80 "tournament" where the Samoans won back the titles they had lost at Shea Stadium, they actually did have "tournament" matches on Tv. Bobo never was in the area in '80.

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I definitely remember the 1980 TV finale ~ Samoans vs Garea & Goulet. Vince talking about how astronomical the odds were of The Samoans regaining the belts (they were the clear favorites all along)

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Does anybody with listings for TV matches have any dates when he teamed with Jones?



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But by the same token, Cawthorns site does not reflect the WWWF, nor all its matches.  I can not look up this particular year because my server is down for some reason.  I myself personally have over 100 matches per year that Cawthorn does not have for any given year from the 60's to 1978.

His site does not reflect the correct schedules of the house shows yet.    I researched key cities that he does not have.  And I researched cities he does have.

I posted this before to give a feel of the territory for the mid 70's to the late 70's for the actual matches for the cities that were more than once a month.  I listed 10 before.  So to prove my point more I will add another city into this mix just to show you that I do have more cities researched and their schedules.  Cawthorns site is excellent, it is great.  But it is not a bible nor should it be used as one.  Way to much stuff is missing.

Every Friday = North Attleboro, MA
Every other Friday = Albany, NY
every other Saturday or almost = Philadelphia arena
every 3 weeks on Mondays = North Dartmouth, MA
every 3 weeks on Tuesdays = Philadelphia TV tapings
every 3 weeks on Tuesdays = Portland, ME
every 3 weeks on Wedesdays = Hamburg, PA
every 3 weeks on Wednesdays = Bangor, ME
every 3 weeks on Thrusdays = Poughkeepsie, NY
every 3 weeks on Thursdays = Worcester, MA

Now I will add this to the mixture:
every 3 weeks on Mondays = Utica, NY - till April of 1975
every 3 weeks on Wedesdays = Utica, NY - starting May 1976 and upwards

If you go to his site, this does not line up with him, because he is missing all this stuff and more.

Cawthorns site does not reflect this stuff.  He is missing many many many dates and cities he has no listings for.  To say a worker was, or was not in the territory going by what he has listed is inacuarate, if he does not have the territory represented. He is missing a lot of key B+ cities that at times are considered A cities.  He only has what has been floating around the internet,  since the internet was formed.  What Cawthorn needs is a few of his posters to go out and do research, and fill in things.  I do drop off information to where these cities are, and their exact schedules.  His users just need to do a lil work.

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Well, I was just looking for TV matches, because that is where I remember seeing that team.



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