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 Posted: Fri Jan 25th, 2008 09:12 pm
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I am fairly new to collecting old footage and, man, it takes a LONG time to get through it!!   not that I mind but I wish I had three months off just to take it all in.

I usually watch a few matches a night, from 6-7 or 730 with a couple of cold beers
my favorite time of the day

tonight will be a couple of matches from St. Louis circa 1980 and then some MSG 3/81

I've already seen Hansen/Backlund from that card but I am going to watch Andre/Slaughter and Hogan/Atlas tonight

yeah!!!

and I have three more MSG cards, Shea Showdown, and two discs CWFlorida, 6 discs St. Louis and 8 more discs Best of Backlund to go!!

drinking beer and watching old school wrestling has to be the best hobby there is, even if my gut is starting to resemble Harley Race's

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Good choices btw.

Years of footage. About the only stuff I have been diligent about watching "every minute of is my beloved WWWF footage.

Got shoot intvws I will never watch (a friend of mine feeds them to me)

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A lot, probably.  In converting stuff to DVD I've tossed quite a few tapes worth of mid 90's indy shit I'll never have time for.

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Lots of stuff I have but never watched.  Bunch of DVDs. Some tapes. I popped in a Chris Benoit vid not too long ago just to see what my reaction would be. No prob watching it. With no football this weekend, maybe I'll watch some wrestling. Chavo Jr with Pepe is always a kick for laughs.



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I was anxious to begin converting my VHS stuff over to DVD, but damn is it time-consuming.  Now, I have to push myself to do it.  I have no idea what are on some of the tapes.



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Same here.  I aint even close to halfway.  And I pretty much stopped.  No reward in it.  If I do it I just have to spend more money on cases and discs.

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BigJ wrote: Same here.  I aint even close to halfway.  And I pretty much stopped.  No reward in it.  If I do it I just have to spend more money on cases and discs.


I just started cloning stuff for myself that was on vhs I'm converting for other people that want it in trade. Only way I could think to do it and stay sane.

I've got tons that I need to watch. Unless I'm really overtired I usually watch dvds in the evening for 30 or 40 minutes.

AWA stuff is pretty much always "must watch" when I receive it. Aside from that it goes by my mood.



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Boxes and boxes of VHS footage I traded for back in the late 80's.  I traded heavilly then, and taped a trememdous amount of stuff.  I have tapes I have never ever watched from the WWWF for the TV shows going back to the late 70's.  I have parts of Dave Meltzers collection and parts of Jim Cornettes collection from way back then.  My problem is I am scared to play them because they sat in a damp location for like a year or so.  When I realized it I removed them.  All the edges look like they have a white film on them.  So I never tried to play them because I dont feel like cleaning my heads constantly.  I taped so much and traded so much even to overseas people in Australia.  A lot of the older MSG and Spectrum and LA and Boston cards I see circulating around, stand a high chance of coming from me.  I have gotten my own stuff back in trades before back in the early 90's.   I jsut do not trade anymore.  I lost total interest in it.

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Ron wrote: Boxes and boxes of VHS footage I traded for back in the late 80's.  I traded heavilly then, and taped a trememdous amount of stuff.  I have tapes I have never ever watched from the WWWF for the TV shows going back to the late 70's.  I have parts of Dave Meltzers collection and parts of Jim Cornettes collection from way back then.  My problem is I am scared to play them because they sat in a damp location for like a year or so.  When I realized it I removed them.  All the edges look like they have a white film on them.  So I never tried to play them because I dont feel like cleaning my heads constantly.  I taped so much and traded so much even to overseas people in Australia.  A lot of the older MSG and Spectrum and LA and Boston cards I see circulating around, stand a high chance of coming from me.  I have gotten my own stuff back in trades before back in the early 90's.   I jsut do not trade anymore.  I lost total interest in it.

 Did you ever catalog it in some form? I'd like to see that list if you ever did one.

If you ever decide to move it all along, please come here to offer it first. :)



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Ron wrote: Boxes and boxes of VHS footage I traded for back in the late 80's.  I traded heavilly then, and taped a trememdous amount of stuff.  I have tapes I have never ever watched from the WWWF for the TV shows going back to the late 70's.  I have parts of Dave Meltzers collection and parts of Jim Cornettes collection from way back then.  My problem is I am scared to play them because they sat in a damp location for like a year or so.  When I realized it I removed them.  All the edges look like they have a white film on them.  So I never tried to play them because I dont feel like cleaning my heads constantly.  I taped so much and traded so much even to overseas people in Australia.  A lot of the older MSG and Spectrum and LA and Boston cards I see circulating around, stand a high chance of coming from me.  I have gotten my own stuff back in trades before back in the early 90's.   I jsut do not trade anymore.  I lost total interest in it.

Losing interest in trading is not uncommon. 
Your stuff sounds really intriguing.  If you had an interest in seeing what it was and converting it at the same time, there are places that do this professionally in the event that the tapes are messed up and need restoration.  I have a client here in Atlanta called Video Copy Services and they do all of the stuff for CNN (different types of conversion, etc....).  They even used to do the old WCW stuff back in the day.  We had a good laugh about that.

If the stuff was rare, I'd foot some of the bill to see what is on it.  We did this with Bix for his Bill Watts stuff, which turned out pretty cool.

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Papa Voo wrote: I was anxious to begin converting my VHS stuff over to DVD, but damn is it time-consuming.  Now, I have to push myself to do it.  I have no idea what are on some of the tapes.
I started about 4 years ago or so coverting my vhs to dvd...I bet I have about over 200 done and still not done



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HBF wrote: Ron wrote: Boxes and boxes of VHS footage I traded for back in the late 80's.  I traded heavilly then, and taped a trememdous amount of stuff.  I have tapes I have never ever watched from the WWWF for the TV shows going back to the late 70's.  I have parts of Dave Meltzers collection and parts of Jim Cornettes collection from way back then.  My problem is I am scared to play them because they sat in a damp location for like a year or so.  When I realized it I removed them.  All the edges look like they have a white film on them.  So I never tried to play them because I dont feel like cleaning my heads constantly.  I taped so much and traded so much even to overseas people in Australia.  A lot of the older MSG and Spectrum and LA and Boston cards I see circulating around, stand a high chance of coming from me.  I have gotten my own stuff back in trades before back in the early 90's.   I jsut do not trade anymore.  I lost total interest in it.

Losing interest in trading is not uncommon. 
Your stuff sounds really intriguing.  If you had an interest in seeing what it was and converting it at the same time, there are places that do this professionally in the event that the tapes are messed up and need restoration.  I have a client here in Atlanta called Video Copy Services and they do all of the stuff for CNN (different types of conversion, etc....).  They even used to do the old WCW stuff back in the day.  We had a good laugh about that.

If the stuff was rare, I'd foot some of the bill to see what is on it.  We did this with Bix for his Bill Watts stuff, which turned out pretty cool.

I third HBF and KHawk.  The Cornette stuff is especially intriguing and I'd love to see any list you might have.

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I never catalogued it.  I never even watched most of the tapes even once.  I was taping in the 1980's from a satellite dish i had bought.  So I was taping areas I had no interest in for others.  Today I wished i had those weekly TV shows I had taped.  I wihsed I would have saved all the ICW stuff I had taped from Savoldi.  I have some matches, but I only saved certain ones.  I was mainly trading.  I was getting stuff as "special treats" given to me, because I was not even trading for stuff at times.  I was filling their weekly requests, but not asking for money or stuff in return because I did not have time to watch anything.   So at times I would ask for stuff they had, but I never had time to watch it back then.  I had subscribed to so many newsletters.  And even to the Audio version that was mailed out on casette.  I think Jeff did that one.  He had more news and had it before Meltzer had it.  His problem is it took longer to get the information out.  But he had it first.

I always question and wonder who owns the rights to the spectrums footage?   It is something that is not turning up much on video tapes comercially released on hardly on 24/7,  but yet it has so much key matches happening in the late 70's to early 80's.   I could go make a list of what I have for MSG and the Spectrum.   Nikolai Volkoff called me a idiot in Hamburg, PA a few years ago.  We were talking about Hamburg from the 70's dealing with the TV tapings. 

When he found out I had erased a lot of Spectrum shows from 1977 and 1978 you could see the dissapointment in his face.  I had lost total interest in wrestling by 1980.  So we would replay these taped of Graham and Bruno to death. We had the famous 3 graham vs Bruno matches.  We had the Scicilian stretcher match we had half of 1977 and all of 1978 and onward.  Then eventually we just erased them in the early 80's   Funny thing is how the original RCA video tapes from the 1970's were so much clearer than the ones they sold us in the 1980's when they started all the different formats to sell.  High Grade and Premium Grade tapes and etc...   The original tapes sold were better, and outlasted what came later.

VHS machines came out in 1977.   Most say they didnt, and came out in 1978 sometime.   We got one from JC Penny for around $1000.00    It is why we had Spectrum from Prism network, and MSG stuff when it aired on WOR  in 1977 for the fill in, for the Basketball games and etc...   Their is a large old trading community out their who have stuff and it is still in good shape.  They just like me, had lost total interest in the sport and do not trade, or even look up wrestling on the internet.  These are the guys that have the stuff that doenst circulate today.  Those traders died off in the mid to late 80's to never return.

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I think it's pretty common among people who get into tape collecting to wind up with stuff they never watch. Many years ago people who traded old time radio tapes wrote about how much stuff they'd never even listened to. They just liked accumulating the stuff. You trade and someone sends something in which you only have mild interest, so it just sits there.

Sometimes the acquisition is more important than actually using it.

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Ron wrote: I never catalogued it.  I never even watched most of the tapes even once.  I was taping in the 1980's from a satellite dish i had bought.  So I was taping areas I had no interest in for others.  Today I wished i had those weekly TV shows I had taped.  I wihsed I would have saved all the ICW stuff I had taped from Savoldi.  I have some matches, but I only saved certain ones.  I was mainly trading.  I was getting stuff as "special treats" given to me, because I was not even trading for stuff at times.  I was filling their weekly requests, but not asking for money or stuff in return because I did not have time to watch anything.   So at times I would ask for stuff they had, but I never had time to watch it back then.  I had subscribed to so many newsletters.  And even to the Audio version that was mailed out on casette.  I think Jeff did that one.  He had more news and had it before Meltzer had it.  His problem is it took longer to get the information out.  But he had it first.

I always question and wonder who owns the rights to the spectrums footage?   It is something that is not turning up much on video tapes comercially released on hardly on 24/7,  but yet it has so much key matches happening in the late 70's to early 80's.   I could go make a list of what I have for MSG and the Spectrum.   Nikolai Volkoff called me a idiot in Hamburg, PA a few years ago.  We were talking about Hamburg from the 70's dealing with the TV tapings. 

When he found out I had erased a lot of Spectrum shows from 1977 and 1978 you could see the dissapointment in his face.  I had lost total interest in wrestling by 1980.  So we would replay these taped of Graham and Bruno to death. We had the famous 3 graham vs Bruno matches.  We had the Scicilian stretcher match we had half of 1977 and all of 1978 and onward.  Then eventually we just erased them in the early 80's   Funny thing is how the original RCA video tapes from the 1970's were so much clearer than the ones they sold us in the 1980's when they started all the different formats to sell.  High Grade and Premium Grade tapes and etc...   The original tapes sold were better, and outlasted what came later.

VHS machines came out in 1977.   Most say they didnt, and came out in 1978 sometime.   We got one from JC Penny for around $1000.00    It is why we had Spectrum from Prism network, and MSG stuff when it aired on WOR  in 1977 for the fill in, for the Basketball games and etc...   Their is a large old trading community out their who have stuff and it is still in good shape.  They just like me, had lost total interest in the sport and do not trade, or even look up wrestling on the internet.  These are the guys that have the stuff that doenst circulate today.  Those traders died off in the mid to late 80's to never return.

 

Great post but I got a little sick reading it. :?

 

Too bad you don't have contact info for the old-time guys. They might get some of their interest rekindled if they knew how vaulable their footage might be today to some of us.



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