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Count Grog
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 04:14 pm |
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What territory had the most masked Wrestlers?
Which had the least?
What wrestler did the most different masked gimmicks?
What wrestler who was well know before wearing a mask did the best job hiding his identiy under a mask?
Last edited on Tue Oct 26th, 2010 04:14 pm by Count Grog
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BayouBoogie
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 04:30 pm |
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Southeastern/Continental sure had a lot of them. I imagine they had the most "wrestler leaves territory and come back masked" wrestlers. And the most where people knew who was under the mask. Even the Grappler came in and they did an angle where they knew he was Len Denton. Guys I'm thinking of in this territory are Wrestling II, Pat Rose Wrestling II, Olympia, Super Olympia, Flame, the Other Assassins (was it Smith and Colley?), Nightmares, Bullet, Tennessee Stud, Humongous and I feel certain I am forgetting a couple at least.
Mid-South sure had a lot too: Wrestling II, Hercules Wrestling II, Assassin, Olympia, Super D, Grappler I & II, Superstar, El Corsario, Nightmare/Champion, Stagger Lee, Humongous. At one point (in 82) they had 5 or 6 at once. I wonder if that is the most?
I think Georgia had quite a few too. And of course Gimmick Heaven, Memphis.
The most different masked gimmicks might be either Randy Colley or Roger Smith.
Last edited on Tue Oct 26th, 2010 04:31 pm by BayouBoogie
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 04:45 pm |
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Florida had a ton of them too. I always rag on the Florida guys at KM to put together a FAQ on all the masked wrestlers in Florida because they were so many of them.
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Count Grog
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 05:11 pm |
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| I I think of territories that had the least I think AWA. I can only think of Dr X and Super Destroyer Mark II as masked guys there. Last edited on Tue Oct 26th, 2010 05:11 pm by Count Grog
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 05:25 pm |
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| Mexico. Case Closed.
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BayouBoogie
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 07:03 pm |
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Count Grog wrote: I I think of territories that had the least I think AWA. I can only think of Dr X and Super Destroyer Mark II as masked guys there.
Dr X, Super Destroyers (there were 3, right?) and Mr.M. Wasn't he masked?
Then in the latter days they had the Tokyo Bullets and the Texas Hangmen. I think Mr. Go and the Super Nija were both masked, right? Most of their masked guys came in the latter days.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 07:28 pm |
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Tennessee was the king for masked wrestlers, especially during the Gulas?Welch days. They continually had 4 to 6 masked teams in the territory at a time and literally thousands from the 50s thru the 70s.
I agree the AWA had the fewest, followed closely by the WWWF.
Overall winner, IMHO, for most masked identities goes to Curtis Smith, who was all of the following under the hood:
The Blue Yankee, The Inferno #2, The Spoiler, The Super Inferno #1, The Mighty Yankee #1, The Inferno #1, The Challenger and The Executioner.
Best at hiding would be Mr. Wrestling II, who had been well known throughout the Southeast for many years as Johnny Walker. Close second would be the Masked Superstar, although he was primarily none as a tag wrestler as Bolo Mongol.
Last edited on Tue Oct 26th, 2010 07:31 pm by diamondmd
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 07:42 pm |
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Where did The Masked Medics make their home for the majority of their careers?
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clawmaster
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 08:38 pm |
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BayouBoogie wrote: Count Grog wrote: I I think of territories that had the least I think AWA. I can only think of Dr X and Super Destroyer Mark II as masked guys there.
Dr X, Super Destroyers (there were 3, right?) and Mr.M. Wasn't he masked?
Then in the latter days they had the Tokyo Bullets and the Texas Hangmen. I think Mr. Go and the Super Nija were both masked, right? Most of their masked guys came in the latter days.
Yes Mr. M was masked. Yes three Super D's (Jardine, Slaughter, then Hangman Neil Guay). And at one TV taping in the mid to late 80s there was this guy called The Blue Max. Either it was long time jobber Max Blue under a hood or just a rib on Max.
Masked Superstar was in the AWA during the mid 80s. Dan Miller under a hood was in the AWA for one match during the early 60s. Let me check my files to get the name right. Actually two matches. It was a tag tournament.
1/15/62 St. Paul, MN
Tournament for AWA Tag Title
First Round
Ivan Kalmikoff & Nikita Kalmikoff beat Joe Scarpello & Tony Baillargeon
Verne Gagne & Leo Nomellini beat Aldo Bogni & Roy Collins
Mr. M & Rojo Cara beat Pat Kennedy & Don Jardine
Hard Boiled Haggerty & Bob Geigel beat Tiny Mills & Nick Bockwinkel
Second Round
Ivan Kalmikoff & Nikita Kalmikoff beat Verne Gagne & Leo Nomellini
Larry Hennig & Duke Hoffman beat Hard Boiled Haggerty & Bob Geigel
Mr. M & Rojo Cara bye
Semi Finals
Larry Hennig & Duke Hoffman beat Mr. M & Rojo Cara
Ivan Kalmikoff & Nikita Kalmikoff bye
Finals
Larry Hennig & Duke Hoffman beat Ivan Kalmikoff & Nikita Kalmikoff to win AWA tag title
Att: 3,671
Note: Rojo Cara aka Dandy Dan Miller, Duke Hoffman aka Bob Leipler
Interesting to see Bockwinkel there that early. I never noticed that before.
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thunderbolt
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 09:15 pm |
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Re: the AWA - Add 'Double X' (Jim Osborne, circa 1970) and a once-around-the-horn pass through by Mil Mascaras about a year later, and you have pretty much covered the AWA.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 10:43 pm |
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thunderbolt wrote: Re: the AWA - Add 'Double X' (Jim Osborne, circa 1970) and a once-around-the-horn pass through by Mil Mascaras about a year later, and you have pretty much covered the AWA.
Forgot about XX. He made a career out of the Doctor X gimmick in McGuirk's territory after he left the AWA.
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 11:07 pm |
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| Was there nay masked wrestlers in the mystery behind the person has held? I am sure there were jobbers such as Mr. X who we will never know, but what about prime time wrestlers?
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clawmaster
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Posted: Tue Oct 26th, 2010 11:18 pm |
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If Dan Miller counts, so does Mil Mascaras. Mil wrestled a few times in the AWA. Tiger Mask II (Misawa) wrestled Zumhofe at some stadium show. WrestleRock maybe?
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Posted: Wed Oct 27th, 2010 12:06 am |
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clawmaster wrote: Tiger Mask II (Misawa) wrestled Zumhofe at some stadium show. WrestleRock maybe?
yep.
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thunderbolt
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Posted: Wed Oct 27th, 2010 12:42 am |
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Papa Voo wrote: Was there nay masked wrestlers in the mystery behind the person has held? I am sure there were jobbers such as Mr. X who we will never know, but what about prime time wrestlers?
Mr. M was Dr. Bill Miller, Rojo Cara was his brother Dan and Dr. X was The Sensational Intelligent Destroyer, aka Dick Beyer.
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