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 Posted: Fri Mar 14th, 2008 04:09 pm
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The one that put them past the point of no return. The one that guaranteed and sealed their fate.

Russo in charge? Ending Goldberg's streak? Screwing up the NWO by having half the world in it? Hogan's contract?

It's almost amazing how they went from whipping the WWE's rearends on Monday nights to be sold for pennies on the dollar a few years later.

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N W OVERKILL. Plus these guys were supposed to be against the company but they held almost all the titles for almost a year.

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I don't know if there was 1 single mistake that did it, but I'm convinced there was a 5 month span. I'd point to the events of December 1997-April 1998.

-December 1997, they bring on Bret Hart. He gets a huge contract upsetting the entire roster (according to the Big Show). He adds very little thanks to the way he is use.
-Starrcade 1997, Hogan refuses to put Sting over cleanly, thereby killing the angle they had going for over a year.
-January 1998, the debut of Thunder on TBS gives them 2 more hours. WCW was never truly creative in the first place, making scripts minutes before the broadcast. 2 more hours of prime time TV really affected them in a bad way.
-February 1998, Nitro expands to 3 hours. (see Thunder)
-April 1998, Bischoff sues Flair for failure to appear at a Thunder even after receiving permission from a company official. Fans became disgusted. The battle raged on until September 1998. By that point, WCW had already suffered through several months of crappy shows, and the other big return, The Warrior, would have virtually no impact.

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Not having a strong wrestling person in charge with full authority. All those committees, formal or otherwise, were clusterfucks made up of people who had personal turf to protect.

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Peters1977 wrote: N W OVERKILL. Plus these guys were supposed to be against the company but they held almost all the titles for almost a year.
I will agree with that plus roster was too large with mediocre personnel.



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I think someone suggested it might have been failing to push Len Denton, which was obviously crucial.

Wasn't the Fingerpoke the same time as Mick Foley was winning the WWF title?  If so, that was the biggest mistake - belittling the chap who a lot of fans liked and respected whilst building up to a farce with a couple of old age pensioners taking the piss out of everyone "because it's unexpected - WOOO!!!" must have turned a vast amount of people off their product.



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Wasn't the Fingerpoke the same time as Mick Foley was winning the WWF title? If so, that was the biggest mistake - belittling the chap who a lot of fans liked and respected whilst building up to a farce with a couple of old age pensioners taking the piss out of everyone "because it's unexpected - WOOO!!!" must have turned a vast amount of people off their product.


The average ratings between January and April 1999, the period after the fingerpoke, were actually higher than the months that preceded it.

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When they let ANY wrestler get creative control...



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They should have put the strap on Beetlejuice!Or have him join the nWo!





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I remember in September/October '99, they had a Hogan/Flair/Bret vs. Sting/Luger/DDP feud that was actually interesting and had me watching again, plus they had Goldberg/Sid. Then they brought Russo in, everything was changed, and it became boring and unwatchable.

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AbbyDaBuccher wrote: They should have put the strap on Beetlejuice!Or have him join the nWo!



what I remember when I watched that was thinking "Damn, Beet sells better than 3/4 the roster.."



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I don't think WCW had a most crucial mistake. I think it was shit piled up on top of shit that killed the company. Every new direction was a disaster.

WCW had been stabbed so many times, it was impossible to stop the bleeding. Bischoff had his knife, Russo had a big ol' saber and Kevin Sullivan got in a few licks in a short period. Hogan, Luger, Master P, Scott Steiner, Goldberg, and Kevin Nash danced around the body. Jamie Kellner finally hauled it off to the morgue.



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I agree with HTF. It was one fuck up after another.



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I think that the first true "strike" was telling everybody that Foley was going to win the World Title, and people changed the channel.  I would think that the diehard WCW fans that changed the channel liked what they saw that night...then they kept loyal to WCW but still checked out the WWF on commercial breaks and boring matches...then noticed that they were watching more WWF than WCW, as they started tuning into Raw and just looking at WCW on the commercial breaks and boring matches...then got tired of the crap and just stopped changing the channel.

It's not the true "death blow" that BJ is asking about, but damn...it started the entire chain of events for those that didn't believe in the WWF.  I remember how shitty Raw was when Nitro started, and how I missed big chunks of Raw until the Stone Cold persona was brought to life.  It was the first original looking thing that WWF had done in years that wasn't a friggin cartoon.



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Superstar wrote: I think that the first true "strike" was telling everybody that Foley was going to win the World Title, and people changed the channel.  I would think that the diehard WCW fans that changed the channel liked what they saw that night...then they kept loyal to WCW but still checked out the WWF on commercial breaks and boring matches...then noticed that they were watching more WWF than WCW, as they started tuning into Raw and just looking at WCW on the commercial breaks and boring matches...then got tired of the crap and just stopped changing the channel.

It's not the true "death blow" that BJ is asking about, but damn...it started the entire chain of events for those that didn't believe in the WWF.  I remember how shitty Raw was when Nitro started, and how I missed big chunks of Raw until the Stone Cold persona was brought to life.  It was the first original looking thing that WWF had done in years that wasn't a friggin cartoon.

Agree with Superstar. Firing Austin. Sure, no one could have predicted the 
sucess that Austin would achieve in the WWF, but, the Austin era finally put
the WWF ahead in the ratings war. I would watch Raw every Monday night, just to see what Stone Cold would do next.
 

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