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Paul Heyman has posted his latest UK Sun blog at this link, writing about Ric Flair's retirement. While he admitted loving the Hall of Fame and Flair's final match for the emotional moments they were, Heyman wasn't as kind to the Raw sendoff:

"OK, so we're going for yet another emotional moment. We had 'em crying at the Hall of Fame. Had 'em at Mania. OK, one more to go. Let's give it to 'em on Raw.  And after the first set of reunions for Flair, don't you think it was time for the mass curtain call, the standing ovation, the "thank you Ric" chants and goodnight everybody?  It was a treat for everyone to see Ric reunited with Tully and Arn and Windham and JJ.  Anyone who knows the story of how JJ left WWE, and the enormous heat between JJ and Vince will tell you, this was Vince McMahon doing what he felt was right for business.  Hey, there's Ricky Steamboat. That's a nice tribute. Their worst matches against each should be considered all time classics. Those two were magic together. Michaels' appearance and hug makes it complete. That's some great emotion.But watching Flair cry because Chris Jericho says thank you? Hey, here's John Cena. And he's saluting Flair. Whooop de freakin' do. Yeah yeah, this is basic Thugonomics. What the hell does it have to do with anyone's favorite Flair memories? Cena? Jericho? Where's Fifi the French Maid?"

Heyman also criticized WWE using the Fuel song for Flair's farewell, as opposed to his familiar theme song from 2001, writing, "And please, I'm begging someone to tell Vince and Kevin Dunn that f'n song about leaving the memories alone is not something that tugs at the heart, nor does it add to the emotion of a Ric Flair testimonial.  Play Strauss' Sprach Zarathustra - which was the theme to 2001: A Space Odyssey - all night long.   That other song is just Vince and Kevin saying: "Here's the WWE touch to it all that makes it so great.  Get over yourselves."



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I have to agree with Heyman about the "Leave The Memories Alone". Obvious WWE marketing there.

Cena and Jericho - definitely should have been part of the roster's "thank you" and nothing more.

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Glad I wasn't the only one replused by the Stock Rock. The amount of times I heard it nearly equalled Let the Bodies Hit the Floor-like proportions.

Shoulda gone with Baba O'Riley, instead. :cool:



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I thought it was a great song to play...



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Vehemently disagree with Heyman on Cena and less so re Jericho because Jericho's a tool.

There are fans - a lot of them - of WWE who may not realize the sheer world-shattering importance of Flair.  The 7 year old kids. 

Cena out there is a must - not just because Flair did touch him in the last few years together, not just because Cena was a legit fan and is a legit friend, but to give Flair the rub.  Those kids understand a tiny bit more about how important Flair was and is because Cena's out there giving him props. 

As a child watching WWF I didnt know a fuckin' thing about Bruno Sammartino but one day Hogan said he was "the greatest of all time" in an interview and that struck a chord.  I've since learned that Hogan was full of shit but that's beside the point.

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It's nice that Cena gave Flair "the rub". :tongue:

The Feul song is okay but it doesn't strike me as having a thing to do with Flair other than they threw together a video of Flair to go with it.

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I partially agree with him, Cena, eh, he's bigtime now, I could almost see that just because he's one of the WWE's biggest "new stars" and I understand the rub, but like I said in another thread, Jericho I just don't get...he's one of the few guys going today I enjoy watching and I love the guy, but even with his time in WCW with Flair, I just didn't get it...maybe backstage they are real good buddies, but I've never heard it, and I'm sure a lot of people watching were thinking "WTF" just like I was..



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Married Jo wrote: I partially agree with him, Cena, eh, he's bigtime now, I could almost see that just because he's one of the WWE's biggest "new stars" and I understand the rub, but like I said in another thread, Jericho I just don't get...he's one of the few guys going today I enjoy watching and I love the guy, but even with his time in WCW with Flair, I just didn't get it...maybe backstage they are real good buddies, but I've never heard it, and I'm sure a lot of people watching were thinking "WTF" just like I was..

Yeah Jericho really had no place there, but it also wasnt like they made a huge fucking deal out of it either.


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They might have overdone it a little bit with Jehrico and Cena but I would rather they error on the side of doing too much rather not doing enough.

In 8 months (or whatever) if Flair returns, then the whole thing will have been a joke.  I can see him back as an announcer or old school manager who does not get in the ring often except to take the occassional bump.   Another "Flair for the Gold" and I will throw up.

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I understand where Heyman is coming from.  There are many ways that this could have been handled.  I have my own ideas that I think would have been better as well.

However a lot of people liked how it was handled, me included, and I have no qualms with how it played out.

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There was a lot fucked up about the whole thing, but I think the song was a nice tribute.  It was the least of my problems with the angle.

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I think it's funny that so many people are going on about Flair possibly coming back as a manager or announcer or some kind of on air role as if doing so completely negates his retirement.

Did this many people piss and moan when Sammartino came back in '87?  Hell, he only wrestled a handful of matches, and was mostly an announcer. 

What's the big deal if he does?  I can guarantee that he'd still be a lot more interesting than some of the clowns they have on TV each week.

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My only gripe with the RAW send off was, it wasn't long enough. If they can give the wife beating child killer the whole Raw show, why can't they give the greatest wrestler to ever lace up a pair of boots( yes I said boots and not nike tennis shoes) the whole show? That Raw should have been a career retrospect of the Nature Boy. Just my opinion.



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I think it's funny that so many people are going on about Flair possibly coming back as a manager or announcer or some kind of on air role as if doing so completely negates his retirement.

Agreed. People are acting as if he ever shows his face again the retirement was a joke. I don't want to see him in the ring anymore but as an announcer or as a manger would be just great.

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Here's a scoop that I'm making up on the top of my head.

Flair wanted Jericho out there cause he likes him.



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