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 Posted: Fri Nov 9th, 2012 10:14 pm
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According to rumor, this was the idea that got Vince Russo removed from his post as head of WCW creative.

My question is whether or not this could have worked.

I think, at the time, Abbott still had a legit bad-ass aura, but he wasn't really being built up as anything special. I don't remember him having any wins against anyone of note.

Truthfully, I don't think it would have been the worst idea in the world. Looking back on how everything eventually played out, however, it probably didn't matter what they did.

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TXM wrote: According to rumor, this was the idea that got Vince Russo removed from his post as head of WCW creative.

My question is whether or not this could have worked.

I think, at the time, Abbott still had a legit bad-ass aura, but he wasn't really being built up as anything special. I don't remember him having any wins against anyone of note.

Truthfully, I don't think it would have been the worst idea in the world. Looking back on how everything eventually played out, however, it probably didn't matter what they did.

The title was already meaningless by that point.  If they gave it to him, he would've lost it again in 2 weeks.  It was a stupid idea to begin with, but completely inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.



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srossi wrote:
TXM wrote: According to rumor, this was the idea that got Vince Russo removed from his post as head of WCW creative.

My question is whether or not this could have worked.

I think, at the time, Abbott still had a legit bad-ass aura, but he wasn't really being built up as anything special. I don't remember him having any wins against anyone of note.

Truthfully, I don't think it would have been the worst idea in the world. Looking back on how everything eventually played out, however, it probably didn't matter what they did.

The title was already meaningless by that point.  If they gave it to him, he would've lost it again in 2 weeks.  It was a stupid idea to begin with, but completely inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.


That's knid of the point I was trying to make. At the time the title was meaningless. The whole deal was ballyhooed into a reason to get Russo removed from his position. It wasn't going to make or break WCW either way. It just strikes me as a good example of what was going on in WCW at the time.

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TXM wrote: srossi wrote:
TXM wrote: According to rumor, this was the idea that got Vince Russo removed from his post as head of WCW creative.

My question is whether or not this could have worked.

I think, at the time, Abbott still had a legit bad-ass aura, but he wasn't really being built up as anything special. I don't remember him having any wins against anyone of note.

Truthfully, I don't think it would have been the worst idea in the world. Looking back on how everything eventually played out, however, it probably didn't matter what they did.

The title was already meaningless by that point.  If they gave it to him, he would've lost it again in 2 weeks.  It was a stupid idea to begin with, but completely inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.


That's knid of the point I was trying to make. At the time the title was meaningless. The whole deal was ballyhooed into a reason to get Russo removed from his position. It wasn't going to make or break WCW either way. It just strikes me as a good example of what was going on in WCW at the time.

It was just the final straw, like when Dusty was fired for wanting Rick Steiner to beat Flair in 3 minutes for the title back in the day.  Eventually, you have one stupid idea too many when it comes to the belt.



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 Posted: Fri Nov 9th, 2012 10:50 pm
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srossi wrote:
TXM wrote: srossi wrote:
TXM wrote: According to rumor, this was the idea that got Vince Russo removed from his post as head of WCW creative.

My question is whether or not this could have worked.

I think, at the time, Abbott still had a legit bad-ass aura, but he wasn't really being built up as anything special. I don't remember him having any wins against anyone of note.

Truthfully, I don't think it would have been the worst idea in the world. Looking back on how everything eventually played out, however, it probably didn't matter what they did.

The title was already meaningless by that point.  If they gave it to him, he would've lost it again in 2 weeks.  It was a stupid idea to begin with, but completely inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.


That's knid of the point I was trying to make. At the time the title was meaningless. The whole deal was ballyhooed into a reason to get Russo removed from his position. It wasn't going to make or break WCW either way. It just strikes me as a good example of what was going on in WCW at the time.

It was just the final straw, like when Dusty was fired for wanting Rick Steiner to beat Flair in 3 minutes for the title back in the day.  Eventually, you have one stupid idea too many when it comes to the belt.


But was that even the "final straw?" At the time it didn't seem out of line with what they were doing bookingwise?

I don't know. It just seems like they were going to push anything to get Russo out of the seat.

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The ironic thing is that it would have made sense, because the title was going to be awarded in a battle royal.  So someone who was a fighter would have an advantage over wrestlers.  It would have suited his reputation and gimmick perfectly.  He could have just punched everyone out and it would have been legal. 

Which is a major peeve of mine.  How come Big Show can win all his matches with an illegal move?  It's not even as if his punches are hidden from the referee.



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kargol wrote:
The ironic thing is that it would have made sense, because the title was going to be awarded in a battle royal.  So someone who was a fighter would have an advantage over wrestlers.  It would have suited his reputation and gimmick perfectly.  He could have just punched everyone out and it would have been legal. 

Which is a major peeve of mine.  How come Big Show can win all his matches with an illegal move?  It's not even as if his punches are hidden from the referee.


I can't point to the exact show, but Mick Foley, when he was WWF Commissioner, revoked the closed fist rule.

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kargol wrote:
The ironic thing is that it would have made sense, because the title was going to be awarded in a battle royal.  So someone who was a fighter would have an advantage over wrestlers.  It would have suited his reputation and gimmick perfectly.  He could have just punched everyone out and it would have been legal. 

Which is a major peeve of mine.  How come Big Show can win all his matches with an illegal move?  It's not even as if his punches are hidden from the referee.


There you go. For those reasons, I didn't think the idea was all that awful,

My only gripe is that Abbott wasn't being built up beforehand.

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TXM wrote: According to rumor, this was the idea that got Vince Russo removed from his post as head of WCW creative.

My question is whether or not this could have worked.

I think, at the time, Abbott still had a legit bad-ass aura, but he wasn't really being built up as anything special. I don't remember him having any wins against anyone of note.

Truthfully, I don't think it would have been the worst idea in the world. Looking back on how everything eventually played out, however, it probably didn't matter what they did.


Was this before his gig with 3 Count or after....



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Good idea or not, it would have been a heck of a lot better than David Arquette.

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Boz1515 wrote: Good idea or not, it would have been a heck of a lot better than David Arquette.

This.



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Boz1515 wrote:
Good idea or not, it would have been a heck of a lot better than David Arquette.


If a title run was rewarded solely on mic work, I'd have to disagree with that.



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Hymie Itsu wrote: Boz1515 wrote:
Good idea or not, it would have been a heck of a lot better than David Arquette.


If a title run was rewarded solely on mic work, I'd have to disagree with that.

Perhaps that is the thought process of some bookers, but judging by former champions like Goldberg, it did not appear to be the primary focus.

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