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 Posted: Sun Dec 23rd, 2012 04:16 am
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I just read a few ratings on two books out there associated with Gordon Solie. 

I saw the one book was basically a nice slice of sweet, fluffy pie about the man  and his involvement in the wrestling business.

The other seemed to give some different perspectives on Solie and one person who read the book said it was basically a very positive spun book until the end when Bob Roop laid into him in one of the last chapters.

Anybody got the scoop on Solie?

What was he like away from the mic?

Did he have any pull at all within the business?  If so, how far did it go?


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Solie was a functional alcoholic. Good but not great announcer. Stayed around way past his prime.



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He was a self-important gasbag on the air.

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clawmaster wrote: Solie was a functional alcoholic. Good but not great announcer. Stayed around way past his prime.


We got to meet him at a Cauliflower Alley Banquet in the mid 90's in New Jersey and was dong pretty well with the drinks,so much so that he went up to his room,passed out and they had to wake him up for the Ceremony



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Did stay too long. Thought he was great with the early 80's GCW but I think he tends to be overrated because he was the first nationally exposed announcer.

Personally I like Lance Russell better (though I am not a fan of Memphis wrestling).

I like Mid-South through early 90's WCW version of Jim Ross better also. The pre-JR Ross.

I liked Caudle too though I'd put Solie ahead of him most likely.

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Alwats liked Russell more but would rank Solie at #2.  Don't care much about his drinking, it didn't seem to affect him much on the air from what I've heard of him.  Obviously he stayed around too long, him as a C team announcer on some of those WCW syyndicated shows were painful to listen to.  The absolute worst was when Schiavone was on vacation or something and he filled in on WCWSN to call matches with Heenan.  They had no idea how to interact with each other and it was the most brutal thing I ever heard outside of Art Donovan and Mike Adamle.  But in his prime, he was excellent and I'm not sure why he gets so much shit.  Russell got angles over better IMO, but Solie got moves over better than anyone.



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His best work was in Florida in the 70's imo. Also, did nice work for GCW on TBS. By the mid 80's you could see the fall off.

I really liked how he called a match. By the book without the hyperbole associated with today's announcers. Called it as a serious sport.

I don't think he had any pull in the business. I doubt that Graham let him make any decisions. I think he was the best for his era over a 10 year time frame. I didn't see Russell then so I can't make that comparison.

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Solie was great in the studio setting where his starightfoward style worked perfectly as a contrast to the wild pro wrestlers he covered. As far as announcing arena matches go just watch Starrcade 83, he was awful. He made the matches seem anticlimatic. One guy I always liked a lot was Rick Stewart of Central States.

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Ultimark wrote: I really liked how he called a match. By the book without the hyperbole associated with today's announcers. Called it as a serious sport.That's exactly what you're NOT supposed to do. You're there to get over the angles and wrestlers, not dazzle everyone with your knowledge of holds. The announcer doesn't have to be over the top, but his job is to sell tickets.

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TerryWWWF wrote: Ultimark wrote: I really liked how he called a match. By the book without the hyperbole associated with today's announcers. Called it as a serious sport.That's exactly what you're NOT supposed to do. You're there to get over the angles and wrestlers, not dazzle everyone with your knowledge of holds. The announcer doesn't have to be over the top, but his job is to sell tickets.

Well damn, he was doing it wrong all those years and everyone was too nice to tell him?  Amazing the business survived.



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TerryWWWF wrote: Ultimark wrote: I really liked how he called a match. By the book without the hyperbole associated with today's announcers. Called it as a serious sport.That's exactly what you're NOT supposed to do. You're there to get over the angles and wrestlers, not dazzle everyone with your knowledge of holds. The announcer doesn't have to be over the top, but his job is to sell tickets.

He made a few hicks less embarrassed to mention to people they know that they like rasslin' because he made it sound so serious, so I'm sure that sold a few extra tickets



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3setsof10 wrote: TerryWWWF wrote: Ultimark wrote: I really liked how he called a match. By the book without the hyperbole associated with today's announcers. Called it as a serious sport.That's exactly what you're NOT supposed to do. You're there to get over the angles and wrestlers, not dazzle everyone with your knowledge of holds. The announcer doesn't have to be over the top, but his job is to sell tickets.

He made a few hicks less embarrassed to mention to people they know that they like rasslin' because he made it sound so serious, so I'm sure that sold a few extra tickets

I think he sold plenty of tickets or he wouldn't have still had a job, much less a job in several territories simultaneously.  He definitely got over what needed to get for that time period and those markets.



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I would agree that his style may not have been the exact right match for a 25k super card event but he pushed wrestlers in a way that was believable. In today's world with no kayfabe it wouldn't work. In Solie's time, I think his approach was exceptional. This is all subjective and no one is right or wrong with their opinions.

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srossi wrote: TerryWWWF wrote: Ultimark wrote: I really liked how he called a match. By the book without the hyperbole associated with today's announcers. Called it as a serious sport.That's exactly what you're NOT supposed to do. You're there to get over the angles and wrestlers, not dazzle everyone with your knowledge of holds. The announcer doesn't have to be over the top, but his job is to sell tickets.

Well damn, he was doing it wrong all those years and everyone was too nice to tell him?  Amazing the business survived.
First, fuck you and your attitude, but you already knew that.

There were a lot of horseshit wrestling announcers back in the day, including guys who were assigned to the show by a TV station. Some of them didn't know fuckall about what the job was supposed to be, and some of them were more concerned with being funny or trying to get themselves over. Bill Cardille was an example of that, aside from his slobbering worship of all things Bruno.

When you're doing "play-by-play" on TV, you shouldn't be describing what people are seeing because, well, they're fucking seeing it. The idea is to enhance what they're seeing with other information. In baseball or football, that usually means setting up the analyst.

Nobody gives a shit about the names of holds except for Meltzer and his disciples, and that's not the audience. The bottom line is to convince the marks that Dusty hates his opponent and there might be a riot when the two of them get together Friday at the Crapatorium, tickets on sale right fucking now. That's the idea, not correctly identifying a counter cross crotch crab.

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TerryWWWF wrote:
srossi wrote: TerryWWWF wrote: Ultimark wrote: I really liked how he called a match. By the book without the hyperbole associated with today's announcers. Called it as a serious sport.That's exactly what you're NOT supposed to do. You're there to get over the angles and wrestlers, not dazzle everyone with your knowledge of holds. The announcer doesn't have to be over the top, but his job is to sell tickets.

Well damn, he was doing it wrong all those years and everyone was too nice to tell him?  Amazing the business survived.
First, fuck you and your attitude, but you already knew that.

There were a lot of horseshit wrestling announcers back in the day, including guys who were assigned to the show by a TV station. Some of them didn't know fuckall about what the job was supposed to be, and some of them were more concerned with being funny or trying to get themselves over. Bill Cardille was an example of that, aside from his slobbering worship of all things Bruno.

When you're doing "play-by-play" on TV, you shouldn't be describing what people are seeing because, well, they're fucking seeing it. The idea is to enhance what they're seeing with other information. In baseball or football, that usually means setting up the analyst.

Nobody gives a shit about the names of holds except for Meltzer and his disciples, and that's not the audience. The bottom line is to convince the marks that Dusty hates his opponent and there might be a riot when the two of them get together Friday at the Crapatorium, tickets on sale right fucking now. That's the idea, not correctly identifying a counter cross crotch crab.


Then you never listened to Solie. He didn't call the names of all the moves like Joey Styles or someone like that. He described in great detail how the moves felt and the pressure points it affected, etc. and that got tons of guys over and made them seem like bad-asses, i.e. wrestlers who fans wanted to pay to see. It had nothing to do with calling names. Like already mentioned, maybe that wouldn't work today but it's absurd to suggest it didn't work for the 30 or so years that we know it did work.

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