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 Posted: Wed Aug 21st, 2013 08:19 pm
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was listeneing to Hulk Hogan on the radio the other day he claims that when he wrapped up his first run with the WWF he was all set to go to The Mid Atlantic but the offer for Rocky 3 came up. is this another one of his "stories".

he also said that his Shea Stadium match with Andre took place in 1978.:shock:

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Off by two years on the Shea Stadium match

Never heard the Midatlantic story before but possible. I had always heard the WWWF didnt want him doing the movie though.

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Spatulapup wrote: was listeneing to Hulk Hogan on the radio the other day he claims that when he wrapped up his first run with the WWF he was all set to go to The Mid Atlantic but the offer for Rocky 3 came up. is this another one of his "stories".

I had always heard him say that Vince Sr. didn't want him taking time off to do a movie, which is what led to him leaving the WWF in the first place in late 1980-early 1981.  If not for that, he would have remained.  Never heard him mention Mid-Atlantic before, but he changes the facts more often than his underwear. 



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Its weird how u read interviews with guys like Hogan, Piper, Flair and these stories they come up with or things they say make u go WTF are they talking about and why would they even make stuff up?

Hogan has said he wrestled Flair in 1983, Flair has said that Rocky Johnson was not Sweet Ebony Diamond and that The Mid Atlantic got Steamboat in return for One Man Gang. Piper talks about being blackballed. Is it just the aging process?:)

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its working, not made up or lying

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Spatulapup wrote: IFlair has said that Rocky Johnson was not Sweet Ebony Diamond and that The Mid Atlantic got Steamboat in return for One Man Gang. Piper talks about being blackballed. Is it just the aging process?:)
I looked at the Crockett and Georgia listings side by side when Steamboat switched promotions and if anybody was traded for Steamboat, it was Randy Savage.



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Piper is pretty much full of shit, to the point that he refers to his matches as "fights."

Hogan is just committed to glorifying Hogan.

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The story I recall is that for all intents and purposes, Hogan's time in WWWF/WWF were close to ending in early 1981.  With promoters liking to have the upper hand on talent, lots of times they would broker deals to take a stale wrestler who had run their course with promoter-A and  farm him out to promoter-B as their next stop.  In many cases, the wrestler themselves may not have been privy to the discussion at all... but were expected to blindly comply with the idea AND profusely thank both promoters for their generosity and foresight to help them out.   Such seemed to have been the case with VJM and Crockett, and Hogan's next voyage was booked from NYC to Charlotte.    Hogan's film offer and independent thought was embarrassing to Senior, and threatened a blackballing to deter Hogan making his own deal.   Following his movie shoot, which couldn't have been a very longterm commitment, Hogan was back home in Florida, where Eddie Graham gave him a few bookings opposite Mighty Igor just prior to the AWA run. 

I tend to think Greg Gagne's story of the Gagnes rescuing a despondent Hogan from the depths of mediocrity on the heels of Shea '80 has some basis in fact, to the point that Greg saw some dollar signs with Hulk and likely extended an offer for Hogan to come out when he was ready to make a move, but it's not like it was some rescue mission when Hulk was airlifted to the safe confines of Minneapolis straight from Shea.  Hogan may have sent feelers back to Verne after the film, or Graham may have called his old pal in Minneapolis and told him the local boy was now ready for a Midwest run.   Both Greg and Hogan do their very best to put a nice sheen on the story after the fact to make themselves look like the AWA took raw coal and made diamonds out of him, and Hogan makes out like a guy who was writing his own ticket to stardom, holding all the cards.  But the truth lies in between, and it was merely a gamble that paid off for both parties.

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Hogan does or at least, did, claim that Vince and him decided the 'red and yellow' ran it's course in '93 and hence his heel run in WCW, which was off by three years.

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Lars Ulrich is still trying to figure out who the hell Hulk Hogan even is, so I wouldn't start dissecting dates too carefully here.



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I saw Greg Gagne show footage of Hogan (face) fighting Andre (face) in an AWA battle royal. His contention was they had the plan to do the match long before Vince did at WM III. but then one or both went to the WWE.

So is there any truth to this? If so, who was Verne going to turn heel? My gut feeling is this is just revisionist bullshit.



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: My gut feeling is this is just revisionist bullshit.
It is.



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IIRC, the early ad promo for Starrcade '83 had Hogan & Wahoo McDaniel to face Dick Slater & Bob Orton, Jr.

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Dusty Rhodes has said Hogan was never scheduled for Starrcade 83. Although he has been known to lie too.:)

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srossi wrote:
Lars Ulrich is still trying to figure out who the hell Hulk Hogan even is, so I wouldn't start dissecting dates too carefully here.

Lars should know, He asked Hulk to play Bass for Metallica.



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