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 Posted: Mon Jan 6th, 2014 05:38 am
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I know some people will say that this wrestling does not stand well over time and that our memories are jaded, but I have to admit....I love matches like these. 

Vince screaming "Pandemonium has broken loose!" 

Yes, the wrestlers seem slower and more awkward back then, but the atmosphere alone was great! 






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 Posted: Mon Jan 6th, 2014 05:57 am
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They were better "personalities" then. You can't argue that Haystacks calhoun or George the animal Steele were better athletes but they were pretty entertaining without all of the "workrate".

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 Posted: Mon Jan 6th, 2014 07:27 am
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Rivera was very underrated. Probably because of his unsuccessful heel run during the Backlund years and the fact that he jumped ship to go to the IWA. The guy was the Number 2 baby in the WWWF during Bruno 1. He was a huge moneymaker in L.A. in the early 70's. He had a good tag team run with DeNucci in the mid-70's and was the number 2 star behind Mascaras in the IWA. He was in many wars with Tolos and Gordman and his tag match with DeNucci against the Blackjacks was the very prototype for ECW. Don't know why he didn't get over as a heel in the late 70's. He would have been taylor made for Backlund.



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I do wonder if Rivera shot himself in the knee with his defection, maybe Monsoon would have built Puerto Rico around him and thus prolonging his career by a decade.

In general I would say that wrestling does hold up well - if it's 1950s footage not involving Rocca or Farhat. But even with the usual dumbing down in the wrestling business, something that basically has happened forever, you will find pleasant surprises constantly. For instance I was going through the available WWWF footage and found out that Johnny Rivera could be a lot of fun. Vince Sr. loved his gimmicks and characters in the main events, so people tend to forget those underneath. Thanks for the link!



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I do have a question pertaining to this match....when was this in regards to him and Denucci teaming up to challenge The Valiants?
It has always been said that Rivera had a drug problem during the late 1970's.  Maybe that is why he did not stick around.
For me, Rivera is one of the biggest mysteries as to whatever happened. There have been many threads on different boards as to whatever happened to him. Some of the rumors have been that he was murdered, drug overdose, living on Skid Row, in jail and others. The guy fell off of the map.



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 Posted: Mon Jan 6th, 2014 07:22 pm
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he was also a huge star for the NWF in Buffalo and Cleveland.



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Papa Voo wrote: I do have a question pertaining to this match....when was this in regards to him and Denucci teaming up to challenge The Valiants?
It has always been said that Rivera had a drug problem during the late 1970's.  Maybe that is why he did not stick around.
For me, Rivera is one of the biggest mysteries as to whatever happened. There have been many threads on different boards as to whatever happened to him. Some of the rumors have been that he was murdered, drug overdose, living on Skid Row, in jail and others. The guy fell off of the map.
the date is wrong as DeNucci and Rivera were already champs in late May. 
Found this on cawthornes site:

1/28/75; Philadelphia, PA; Arena
2/8/75:
WWWF Tag Team Champions Johnny & Jerry Valiant defeated Bill White & El Olympico
The Wolfman defeated Stan ?
Butcher Vachon defeated Tony Altimore
Manuel Soto & Pete Sanchez defeated Hans Schroeder & ? Kona
Chief Jay Strongbow & Victor Rivera fought Bobby Duncum & Killer Kowalski to a draw

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Awesome! That was when I first started to really pay attention to wrestling. What was the deal with Killer's mask?

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Too cover his baldness.



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Really?  That is pretty funny.  They introduce him as his character but he wears a mask.  Strange.  At least he didn't use his own name when he was an Executioner. 

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I think this may add a little more credence that there is alot more TV show footage there.  I have always believed that.

I would also guess that the Arion heel turn segments are out there along with the bloodfest of Denucci and Rivera beating The Valiants for the championship. 

For some of you who follow what is aired or has been aired, what tag team title switches have they shown thus far, if any? 

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Papa Voo wrote: I think this may add a little more credence that there is alot more TV show footage there.  I have always believed that.

I would also guess that the Arion heel turn segments are out there along with the bloodfest of Denucci and Rivera beating The Valiants for the championship. 

For some of you who follow what is aired or has been aired, what tag team title switches have they shown thus far, if any? 
I hope  you are right.  I would actually pay to see that stuff.

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Papa Voo wrote: I think this may add a little more credence that there is alot more TV show footage there.  I have always believed that.

I would also guess that the Arion heel turn segments are out there along with the bloodfest of Denucci and Rivera beating The Valiants for the championship. 

For some of you who follow what is aired or has been aired, what tag team title switches have they shown thus far, if any? 

these TV tag matches have surfaced

Ho and Garea defeating Tanaka-Fuji Nov 73  3rd fall only
Valients vs Ho-Garea - non-title 1974
DeNucci-Rivera vs Blackjacks  non-title 1975
Blackjacks defeating DeNucci-Barrett 1975  3rd fall only
Tanaka-Fuji defeating Garea-Zbysyzko  tag tournament 1977

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