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 Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2020 02:13 am
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WWE Network News reported the following content listing for the 10 new episodes of 1993 WCW Saturday Night episodes coming to the service this Monday as a part of March's classic content drop:

WCW Saturday Night 05/29/1993 [Duration: 00:41:43]
Sting is a guest on A Flair for the Gold while also teaming up with British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith against Vinnie Vegas & Big Sky. Plus, WCW World Tag Team Champions The Hollywood Blonds, WCW World TV Champion Paul Orndorff and more are in action.

WCW Saturday Night 06/05/1993 [Duration: 01:23:32]
The Hollywood Blonds continue their heated rivalry with Ric Flair & Arn Anderson as A Flair for the Gold welcomes special guest Johnny B. Badd. Get an update on the condition of Cactus Jack. Plus, Sting, Davey Boy Smith, Sid Vicious, Ricky The Dragon Steamboat, Rick Rude and more are in action.

WCW Saturday Night 06/19/1993 [Duration: 00:57:32]
Ricky The Dragon Steamboat challenges Paul Orndorff for the WCW World TV Championship. Sting & British Bulldog Davey Boy Smiths conflict with Big Van Vader & Sid Vicious moves to the beach as their rivalry heats up. A Flair for the Gold welcomes special guest Col. Robert Parker.

WCW Saturday Night 07/24/1993 [Duration: 00:37:35]
Johnny B. Badd, 2 Cold Scorpio & Z Man battle Maxx Payne, Lord Steven Regal & Big Sky in a Six-Man Tag Team Match. Also in action are The Colossal Kongs, Yoshi Kwan and more.

WCW Saturday Night 07/31/1993 [Duration: 01:25:37]
Johnny B. Badd looks for payback against Maxx Payne in a No Disqualification Match. Also, All-American Ron Simmons, 2 Cold Scorpio & Marcus Alexander Bagwell, Lord Steven Regal, Sid Vicious and more are in action.

WCW Saturday Night 08/07/1993 [Duration: 00:41:17]
Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat & Johnny B. Badd take on Paul Orndorff & Maxx Payne in the main event. “Ravishing” Rick Rude & The Equalizer demand answers from Dustin Rhodes. The Four Horsemen talk Clash of the Champions. Sting, Bobby Eaton and more in action.

WCW Saturday Night 08/14/1993 [Duration: 00:38:02]
Lord Steven Regal leads a team into six-man action against Ricky Steamboat, Marcus Bagwell and 2 Cold Scorpio. The Hollywood Blonds scout The Horsemen. Ric Flair & Sting confront The Colossal Kongs. Sid, Dick Slater and more in action.

WCW Saturday Night 08/21/1993 [Duration: 01:27:23]
Sting challenges Ric Flair for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. Big Van Vader speaks in a special interview. Sid Vicious & Harlem Heat take on 2 Cold Scorpio, Ron Simmons & Marcus Alexander Bagwell. Johnny B. Badd and more are in action.

WCW Saturday Night 08/28/1993 [Duration: 01:27:28]
The British Bulldog & Sting take on Harlem Heat. The United States Championship 2-Out-Of-3 Match Tournament kicks off. “Ravishing” Rick Rude attacks NWA Champion Ric Flair on “A Flair for the Gold”. The Hollywood Blonds, Lord Steven Regal, Ice Train and more in action.

WCW Saturday Night 09/18/1993 [Duration: 00:43:28]
On the eve of WCW Fall Brawl 1993, Ric Flair & Dustin Rhodes take on their Fall Brawl opponents “Ravishing” Rick Rude & Sid Vicious. Sting faces Harlem Heat’s Kane. Lord Steven Regal has a warning for WCW Television Champion Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat.



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 Posted: Sun Mar 15th, 2020 03:34 am
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I am glad to see any content of this type on WWE Network, but would prefer to see some other stuff in the vault before what was generally a pretty bad era for WCW despite there being a few gems like Austin and Pillman.

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WWE is offering well over 50% of WWE Network free for everyone during a limited time during the lockdown. I also feel that this is Vince almost giving up on the Network as much as it’s about charity.



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With NXT UK now on hiatus, the WWE Network has zero weekly first-run in-ring content.

Or is 205 Live unique to the Network? Does anyone still watch 205 Live?

EDIT: 205 Live has no new matched either. So the only new wrestling on the Network at the moment is the PPVs.

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This thread isn’t getting updated with new Network content, probably because there really hasn’t been much.  That brings up some questions:
 
 
1)      Even with the quarantine, shouldn’t there be new classic content loaded?
 
2)      Can’t the Network employees manage that kind of stuff from home if they had to?
 
3)      Is the lack of new content evidence that the rumors are true and Vince really has given up on the Network?
 
 
I’m seeing more stuff on FS1 than on the WWE Network lately.
 

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Boz1515 wrote: This thread isn't getting updated with new Network content, not even classic content.  Why is that?  Why no new classic content?  Couldn't the Network employees maintain this thing from home?  Is this evidence that Vince really has given up on the Network?

Classic content has come to a standstill but they’re still uploading new specials. There’s a documentary on the HHH-Foley feud from 2000, the last ever recorded interview with a Lemmy from Motörhead that HHH and Corey Graves did from years ago that finally saw the light of day, and tomorrow The Undertaker docu-series premiers.  But it’s definitely slowed down. 



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srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: This thread isn't getting updated with new Network content, not even classic content.  Why is that?  Why no new classic content?  Couldn't the Network employees maintain this thing from home?  Is this evidence that Vince really has given up on the Network?

Classic content has come to a standstill but they’re still uploading new specials. There’s a documentary on the HHH-Foley feud from 2000, the last ever recorded interview with a Lemmy from Motörhead that HHH and Corey Graves did from years ago that finally saw the light of day, and tomorrow The Undertaker docu-series premiers.  But it’s definitely slowed down. 


I hear you.  I remember seeing something about the median age of a WWE fan being like 54 or something a while back.  If that is true, then what better time could Vince attempt to lure old fans back with classic content than right now?



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Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: This thread isn't getting updated with new Network content, not even classic content.  Why is that?  Why no new classic content?  Couldn't the Network employees maintain this thing from home?  Is this evidence that Vince really has given up on the Network?

Classic content has come to a standstill but they’re still uploading new specials. There’s a documentary on the HHH-Foley feud from 2000, the last ever recorded interview with a Lemmy from Motörhead that HHH and Corey Graves did from years ago that finally saw the light of day, and tomorrow The Undertaker docu-series premiers.  But it’s definitely slowed down. 


I hear you.  I remember seeing something about the median age of a WWE fan being like 54 or something a while back.  If that is true, then what better time could Vince attempt to lure old fans back with classic content than right now?




They have every kind of analysis of the Network available. If classic content was a driving new subscribers, they would be uploading new stuff every day. The truth is that there aren't enough people who want to watch old wrestling, or at least who are willing to pay $9.99 a month for it. The cost of getting the stuff ready for the Network is also a problem. Mostly the editing of music. I don't think this is Vince trying to piss you off, just that the numbers don't make sense financially. They could probably promote it better, but I just think that the costs vs the return don't add up for them.



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Kriss wrote: Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: Boz1515 wrote: This thread isn't getting updated with new Network content, not even classic content.  Why is that?  Why no new classic content?  Couldn't the Network employees maintain this thing from home?  Is this evidence that Vince really has given up on the Network?

Classic content has come to a standstill but they’re still uploading new specials. There’s a documentary on the HHH-Foley feud from 2000, the last ever recorded interview with a Lemmy from Motörhead that HHH and Corey Graves did from years ago that finally saw the light of day, and tomorrow The Undertaker docu-series premiers.  But it’s definitely slowed down. 


I hear you.  I remember seeing something about the median age of a WWE fan being like 54 or something a while back.  If that is true, then what better time could Vince attempt to lure old fans back with classic content than right now?




They have every kind of analysis of the Network available. If classic content was a driving new subscribers, they would be uploading new stuff every day. The truth is that there aren't enough people who want to watch old wrestling, or at least who are willing to pay $9.99 a month for it. The cost of getting the stuff ready for the Network is also a problem. Mostly the editing of music. I don't think this is Vince trying to piss you off, just that the numbers don't make sense financially. They could probably promote it better, but I just think that the costs vs the return don't add up for them.


Well, their analysis might tell them the classic content doesn't drive new subscribers, but they might be wrong.  Just like how they're wrong about their current product being good.  If it was good, the tv ratings wouldn't suck, which they do.  I mean, they really suck.  Even before Coronavirus.  It makes me think they don’t know what they’re talking about.  Maybe they should worry a little less about new subscribers.  Maybe they should focus on not losing the ones they have first and go from there.  What 40 or 50 year old WWE fan doesn't want to watch classic content?  The Network is an organizational disaster when trying to find stuff now.  That's probably half the problem.
 
I agree, they could promote the old stuff better.  I also think they don't have some of the right stuff up there.  Where are the syndicated WWF tv shows from the 80's?  Some of that stuff was popular.  Back then they found a way to get 33 million viewers on a Friday night at 8pm.  Now they can’t even get 2 million on the same night in the same time slot.  Yeah, I know things are a lot different, but that’s a large gap no matter how you slice it. 
 
I thought they said during a conference call a couple years ago that Classics on Demand was a success?  If that’s the case, then someone wanted to see their classic content.  And that’s the opposite of the position they’re taking here if they think the classic content doesn’t matter.
 
Also, I watch my wife edit old video and swap out audio, etc. in no time flat right here at the house.  The new technology for that stuff is awesome compared to 10 years ago.  I know they have better software than I do, and plenty of trained staff.  Didn’t they just eliminate their dvd department last year?  They should have at least some staff available to just hammer this stuff out now.  C’mon Vince.



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I've sent them questions about specific footage through e-mail and snail-mail a couple of times, but never received a response.

On my wish list, I could watch those Bob Luce films from the International Amphitheatre and the Hammond Civic Center all day.
These films had unique match-ups from Verne Gagne's AWA and his co-promotion with Wilbur Snyder and Dick the Bruiser.

Some people have speculated the Billy Corgan has bought whatever footage still existed from Bob's widow, Sharon.
Polish Joe, a former AWA producer, said that Verne actually owned the rights and all of the footage was sold to Vince when Verne had that archive/HOF induction deal.

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Random question:Not sure if it can be done, but has anyone been able to personally archive any of the Network content?

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Gone_Fishing wrote: Random question:Not sure if it can be done, but has anyone been able to personally archive any of the Network content?

I haven't but yes, people are able to capture content from the Network.

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khawk wrote: Gone_Fishing wrote: Random question:Not sure if it can be done, but has anyone been able to personally archive any of the Network content?

I haven't but yes, people are able to capture content from the Network.

There are circles of people who use free trial accounts, downloading software and torrents to share all the classic content. I don't know how many people are doing this, but it might be a significant portion of the potential market. Remember when the Last Battle of Atlanta was unearthed? It was all over ever free streaming platform within hours. I can see why WWE might not want to super-serve these fans who want everything but won't pay for it.



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I have downloaded about 10TB of content from the Network I think.



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Kriss wrote: khawk wrote: Gone_Fishing wrote: Random question:Not sure if it can be done, but has anyone been able to personally archive any of the Network content?

I haven't but yes, people are able to capture content from the Network.

There are circles of people who use free trial accounts, downloading software and torrents to share all the classic content. I don't know how many people are doing this, but it might be a significant portion of the potential market. Remember when the Last Battle of Atlanta was unearthed? It was all over ever free streaming platform within hours. I can see why WWE might not want to super-serve these fans who want everything but won't pay for it.
You see this stuff all over YouTube.  

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