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 Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2014 07:06 am
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First time I have ever seen this, I'm sure several of you have seen it long ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxEDfufiwto

I like watching Hulk use a more technical approach here.  I've read on the internet for years that a large number of folks think Hulk has zero technical knowledge/ability.  Obviously he had to know something from training with guys like Hiro Matsuda, and no doubt the punch/slam/boot thing was a part of his U.S. marketing.  I assume he was closing in on 40 here.

With that being said, here's a question:

1) The time stamp says this match was on 3/5/93, which was before Wrestlemania 9 when Bret was still champion.  Is the time stamp wrong, or did guys like Hulk wear the gold over to Japan even if they were not champion in the states?


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 Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2014 07:39 am
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The date is listed wrong. It was May 3rd. 5/3 not 3/5.




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Maybe it was uploaded by someone from Europe? DD/MM/YY?



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May 3, '93 show. Pretty famous. This is the match where, beforehand in a press conference, he said the WWF belt was meaningless and the IWGP belt was the only one that mattered.



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In the pre-Internet era, this was such a big story among the smarks that Pro Wrestling Illustrated made it their cover story.  Essentially it was just Hogan being Hogan, but the WWF was going through a rough patch and Vince was furious.



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Hisa wrote:
Maybe it was uploaded by someone from Europe? DD/MM/YY?

Probably.

Regarding the format, I have to think if I've ever seen a date written like 31/05/2014, so if you see 31.05.2014 it's very European.



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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2014 12:00 am
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I believe this was New Japan's first event at the Fukuoka Dome. And newer fans may not be able to grasp this but New Japan Pro Wrestling was the most successful wrestling company in the world at this time.

This card drew over 50,000 fans along with more than $2million dollars at the box office. It was considered by the office as almost a letdown because they did not sellout.

Hogan's match was not the main event either, that belonged to the dream match of Antonio Inoki & Tatsumi Fujinami vs Genichiro Tenryu & Riki Choshu.

Also a picture of Sting who was on the card with Hogan made the rounds.



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 Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2014 12:04 am
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I believe that either at that card or in the context of promoting it, Hulk Hogan made comments to the effect that the IWGP Title was the real deal and the WWF Title was "a toy". That ruffled some feathers in Greenwich since Hogan was WWF Champion at the time. A lot of Hogan's words and deeds in 1993, even while on the WWF roster, stated in everything but direct words that he planned to leave the WWF as soon as possible.

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Meltzer also speculated that the decision had already been made for Hogan to drop the title to Yokozuna at this point, so Hogan was trying to do some pre-emptive posturing on that front as well. "If I lose the belt, it won't matter."

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PeteF3 wrote: Meltzer also speculated that the decision had already been made for Hogan to drop the title to Yokozuna at this point, so Hogan was trying to do some pre-emptive posturing on that front as well. "If I lose the belt, it won't matter."
Did Hogan even make any titles defenses?  Certainly he knew when he won the belt exactly when he was losing it.  Hogan wasn't really an active member of the roster at this point.  I think his deal was 2 or 3 matches.



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He worked some house shows after beating Yoko, but they were him and Brutus Beefcake against Ted DiBiase and IRS in a Wrestlemania rematch. Hulk Hogan's first defense of the title was his loss to Yokozuna at KOTR. Hogan eventually had some singles matches with Yoko, after losing the title, on a European tour before leaving the WWF until early 2002.

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I remember in the summer of '93, I was working in Chicago. One day after work, I made my way over to north Halsted Street to an upstairs, very small Japanese video rental store. You had to walk up a rickety staircase to get up there. A nice asian dude met me at the door and looked like, "what the hell do you want?". I stumbled through some conversation with him and tried to convey that I was looking for Japanese pro wrestling tapes. He pulled out two weeks worth of All Japan and two weeks worth of New Japan. I took them home that night and dubbed them over the next couple of nights. It was inconvenient to get to this place, and unfortunately that summer I was working like 16 hour days, so my free time was limited. But, still, to this day it was just sort of a goldmine for me. Anyway, long story, but the Hogan/Muta match from early May was on one of the NJPW tapes I rented. Great memories.



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