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On this date on May 2, 1987, Curt Hennig captured the AWA World Title over Nick Bockwinkel at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, CA. at the AWA's Super Clash II event.


Personally I always loved the Zbyszko roll-of-dimes-angle, and I was happy to see Curt get the title win. He did the best he could in the AWA with the limited opponents he had to work with, and ultimately that time seasoning himself as a heel made his move to the WWF and transition into "Mr. Perfect" much smoother than it would have been without that year as the World Champ in the AWA.


As an aside, I always thought some of his early Mr. Perfect work against guys like Jim Brunzell would have been great Main Event matches in the AWA at that time instead of openers on WWF cards. Funny how different settings for different matches can skew what you think of them. Hennig-Brunzell in the WWF as the opener is a no-brainer as to who wins. Hennig-Brunzell as the main event on an AWA card and all bets are sorta off. 

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Looking back, very deserving that Hennig got a AWA title run.

I'm not sure how much of Hennig vs Bockwinkle is on video. Don't remember the rematches but they had to be good, right?

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Nick Bockwinkel and Curt Hennig have four or five matches during this era that made TV to my recollection:

- Las Vegas in December of 1986 (the one that ESPN aired on New Year's Eve)

- St. Paul Civic Center, Christmas 1986 (this aired locally in the Twin Cities on PPV and is in tape trading circles)

- The title change from San Francisco on May 2, 1987

- Minneapolis Auditorium in June or July of 1987 in a professional TV shoot as opposed to the single camera shooting without TV lights.

- There may be a Las Vegas rematch around the time of the above match that made TV

I think they also had a couple of TV matches in the 1984 and 1985 range not to mention some tag team matches against each other here and there.

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I know times were tough but come on. A roll of dimes? At least stop at the bank and get a roll of quarters.

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Wasn't the belt put in escrow? And awarded to Hennig later?



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Held up for a week or two so the Championship committee could review the footage. (reality was Hennig as deciding whether to stay or leave.
The best part of the film is that you NEVER see the dimes get passed or in Larry's hands or Curts. They pantomimed the pass so it could never be seen even by accident on camera.
Their last match on video was filmed August 1 1987 in St. Paul. Larry and Curt spike pile-drove Bock and he never appeared in an AWA ring as a wrestler again on TV. Went for a quick tour of Japan and then was basically retired save for a spot appearance here and there.

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I had this on tape and what I remember most, was that they kept showing the same footage of fans over and over throughout the match. There was a hideously ugly woman that was shown cheering wildly during the match. I think they showed the exact same cheer twice (was really animated so it was easy to remember it). Then, when Bock was laid out in the ring, they showed the exact same footage of the same woman cheering wildly, and this time the announcer (could it have been Milt Avruskin? This was a Canadian feed) said something like "why on earth is this woman cheering!?", as if it was the first time they showed her. It seemed so low budget to me.

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Not to take away from the AWA-centricity of this date, but I will always remember this day for a number of reasons. In 1987, as a freshman in high school, I received tickets to the Rosemont Horizon show, which was highlighted by a Savage-Steamboat steel cage rematch from WM3. I'll list the card below. (By the way, this was one of the kayfabe killers for me, because a month later, I read a story in PWI about the very match happening on an east coast show with the exact same finish: where Savage accidentally threw Steamboat out the door).

After the Rosemont Horizon show, if I wasn't amped up enough, I came home and grabbed the VHS tape out of the VCR where I had just taped Saturday Night's Main Event that same night, so I stayed up until 1:30 in the morning watching that (and being super pissed that the Bulldogs got screwed out of the title win).


WWF @ Chicago, IL - Rosemont Horizon - May 2, 1987
Outback Jack defeated Jimmy Jack Funk

Ron Bass defeated Pedro Morales

Rick Martel & Tom Zenk defeated Don Muraco & Bob Orton Jr.

Jacques & Raymond Rougeau defeated Greg Valentine & Dino Bravo

Jim Duggan defeated the Iron Sheik

Koko B. Ware defeated Danny Davis

Tito Santana fought Butch Reed to a 20-minute draw

WWF IC Champion Ricky Steamboat defeated Randy Savage in a steel cage match


Saturday Night's Main Event #11
April 28, 1987 in South Bend, IN
Joyce Center drawing 9,345 ($101,136)
Shown May 2, 1987 on NBC (9.5)
Kamala pinned Jake Roberts (5:00).

Randy Savage pinned George Steele (6:00) in a "lumberjack" match.

The British Bulldogs beat WWF Tag Champs The Hart Foundation in two straight falls.
The Hart Foundation was DQed (5:00).
Dynamite pinned Niedhart.

WWF I-C Champ Ricky Steamboat beat Hercules (6:00) via DQ.

Rick Martel & Tom Zenk beat Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff (4:00) when Martel pinned Sheik.



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Hmmmmm.... thanks to pick posting the match, I think I may be confused. Was there a match soon after where Hennig bloodied Wahoo McDaniel? I think that was the match with the repeated video of the fan.

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the squared circle wrote: Hmmmmm.... thanks to pick posting the match, I think I may be confused. Was there a match soon after where Hennig bloodied Wahoo McDaniel? I think that was the match with the repeated video of the fan.
That was from Vegas while Hennig was the champ so yes, that match was later on.

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tamalie wrote: Nick Bockwinkel and Curt Hennig have four or five matches during this era that made TV to my recollection:

- Las Vegas in December of 1986 (the one that ESPN aired on New Year's Eve)

- St. Paul Civic Center, Christmas 1986 (this aired locally in the Twin Cities on PPV and is in tape trading circles)

- The title change from San Francisco on May 2, 1987

- Minneapolis Auditorium in June or July of 1987 in a professional TV shoot as opposed to the single camera shooting without TV lights.

- There may be a Las Vegas rematch around the time of the above match that made TV

I think they also had a couple of TV matches in the 1984 and 1985 range not to mention some tag team matches against each other here and there.

They also teamed together in All Japan 1985 for the World Tag League.



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Blazer wrote: Not to take away from the AWA-centricity of this date, but I will always remember this day for a number of reasons. In 1987, as a freshman in high school, I received tickets to the Rosemont Horizon show, which was highlighted by a Savage-Steamboat steel cage rematch from WM3. I'll list the card below. (By the way, this was one of the kayfabe killers for me, because a month later, I read a story in PWI about the very match happening on an east coast show with the exact same finish: where Savage accidentally threw Steamboat out the door).

After the Rosemont Horizon show, if I wasn't amped up enough, I came home and grabbed the VHS tape out of the VCR where I had just taped Saturday Night's Main Event that same night, so I stayed up until 1:30 in the morning watching that (and being super pissed that the Bulldogs got screwed out of the title win).


WWF @ Chicago, IL - Rosemont Horizon - May 2, 1987
Outback Jack defeated Jimmy Jack Funk

Ron Bass defeated Pedro Morales

Rick Martel & Tom Zenk defeated Don Muraco & Bob Orton Jr.

Jacques & Raymond Rougeau defeated Greg Valentine & Dino Bravo

Jim Duggan defeated the Iron Sheik

Koko B. Ware defeated Danny Davis

Tito Santana fought Butch Reed to a 20-minute draw

WWF IC Champion Ricky Steamboat defeated Randy Savage in a steel cage match


Saturday Night's Main Event #11
April 28, 1987 in South Bend, IN
Joyce Center drawing 9,345 ($101,136)
Shown May 2, 1987 on NBC (9.5)
Kamala pinned Jake Roberts (5:00).

Randy Savage pinned George Steele (6:00) in a "lumberjack" match.

The British Bulldogs beat WWF Tag Champs The Hart Foundation in two straight falls.
The Hart Foundation was DQed (5:00).
Dynamite pinned Niedhart.

WWF I-C Champ Ricky Steamboat beat Hercules (6:00) via DQ.

Rick Martel & Tom Zenk beat Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff (4:00) when Martel pinned Sheik.


Dag, first the house show and then SNME?  This would have qualified for one of the best wrestling fan days ever.  What a great time in history as well.  I still have a ton of SNME on VHS from when I originally recorded them.  Loved those days.



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khawk wrote: Held up for a week or two so the Championship committee could review the footage. (reality was Hennig as deciding whether to stay or leave.
The best part of the film is that you NEVER see the dimes get passed or in Larry's hands or Curts. They pantomimed the pass so it could never be seen even by accident on camera.
Their last match on video was filmed August 1 1987 in St. Paul. Larry and Curt spike pile-drove Bock and he never appeared in an AWA ring as a wrestler again on TV. Went for a quick tour of Japan and then was basically retired save for a spot appearance here and there.

Where was Hennig going to go at this point?  The WWF offered him a contract this early and he decided to turn it down?

And if Hennig was weighing his options, why do this finish at all?  Why not make him commit to the AWA first?

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Yes, the WWF had offered a contract to him at this point. The Midnight Rockers had just signed with the WWF also before they were fired after their first night.

Both Hennig and the Rockers would eventually debut the following summer.

No idea why Verne would do it this way, except things were done differently then and maybe not always the most intelligent way.



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