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 Posted: Fri Sep 8th, 2017 06:58 pm
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Big John Studd had been trying to make it as an actor and had a few parts in TV and movies in the late 1980s when somebody needed a big guy to play the heavy or be some sort of monster under costumes and latex masks. Not long after that the effects of cancer began to take their toll, some believing that his HGH use may have accelerated the growth of the cancer cells.

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To this day, Studd is still the most bizarre choice for a Royal Rumble winner.  He had just returned and was a face for no particular reason, and not very over in that role at all.  I don't think anyone could picture him as a face, at least not without a legitimate reason for the turn and a strong heel to play it off against.  And the Rumble win seemed to signal a massive push was coming, which of course never happened.

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I suppose either he couldn't take the bump over the top rope, or VKM just thought "the biggest man on the roster should logically win" and went with him.



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Big John Studd seems like an odd choice in hindsight. It wasn't an obvious one at the time, but it makes sense in context. Studd had been gone since the fall of 1986. The WWF wanted to reestablish him in a big way because he was going to get a push in a renewal of his feud with Andre The Giant. That was planned as a main event feud in the spring and summer of 1989, headlining the B tour while the A tour would have Hogan vs. Savage rematches. Studd quit for reasons ranging from Andre being too stiff during their initial match, which I doubt, to Studd being upset with his WM5 payoff, much more plausible. Once he bailed the WWF hotshotted an angle with Andre bullying Hillbilly Jim only for Jim to KO him with his lucky horse shoe. That set up Andre and Haku vs. HBJ and Hacksaw Jim Duggan on the road.

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Qaenos wrote: Blazer wrote: Big John Studd vs. Andre the Giant (two nights after WM5).  Yeah, it's as bad as you can imagine.
On to the next match.  Two duds in a row though.

Although there are lots of matches on this set that I was interested in, as soon as I saw this one I ordered the DVD right away.  Not because I expected it to be a great match, but because I was a fan of both Big John Studd and Andre the Giant and I remember being really excited as a kid in 1989 that they'd face off with Studd as the face and Andre as the heel.  However, the feud was quickly aborted and Studd left abruptly with Hillbilly Jim filling in for him in many of the towns (including Toronto my hometown).
  
This is one of those "collector" matches.


I feel the exact same way about these guys.  Matches from 1989 with Studd are few and far between.  I love both guys, and I didn't find this match to be that bad, especially considering who they are.  I actually enjoyed it.

I remember reading in that Andre book that came out a few years ago where someone (maybe Vince?) was quoted as saying Studd quit the business because Andre was going around saying he was gonna kill him in the ring (or something to that effect).  Not sure if it is true, but I agree, he could have gone elsewhere and found work for sure.



**EDIT - Just checked my book, and the quote is from Vince himself.  Andre the Giant:  A Legendary Life by Michael Krugman.  Page 297.




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The Flair vs. Piper match from disc two is pretty entertaining as well.

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Flair vs. Hogan (1991) is fantastic with no commentary.  You can really hear them, which is neat.  The crowd was super excited for this one.

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And of course the "Toxic Turtles" look like a future Wrestlecrap induction.  Seems very WCW Robocop/ Ding Dongs like.

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Got my copy. No Hogan on any of the packaging. Of course, Warrior and his comments in his life is front and center.

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I won't go over matches since that's been done, but I'll say:

-This Charly Caruso is useless

-I hope they don't actually keep footage inside of cardboard banker boxes at a warehouse. I saw one box marked "PRISM Wrestling." That means Philly Spectrum.

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Oh I can think of a few uses for Charlie Carusso. But yeah, I agree you could replace her with any c-grade actress.



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I like how she said she recalls watching Saturday Night's Main Event when the Mega Powers formed. It happened before she was born.

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Hogan and Savage vs. Honky and the Hart Foundation has a frame rate issue and a constant line at the top of the screen.

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LAF wrote: I like how she said she recalls watching Saturday Night's Main Event when the Mega Powers formed. It happened before she was born.

I caught that too, and it was only compounded by the fact that she didn't remember the Machines, who were there 10 months earlier. 



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Long day, but back to watching this.

Just finished Macho Man v. Warrior, two days after WM5. Really fun little match, and a nice twist at the end with who showed up. Good stuff.



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