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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2018 05:24 pm
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Married Jo wrote: He was also VERY upset that Conrad didn't out himself as the guy promoting the Starrcast show. Like, how DARE HE not slap his name all over the thing, even though if he had done that people would be ripping him as putting himself over..
I'm sure Bix never watched a WWE show from 1983-1997 because how dare Vince McMahon not acknowledge himself as the owner of the company.



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For the first time in his life, Jim Cornette has taken the high road on something:

@ALL_IN_2018 sold their 10,000 tickets in an hour today! @CodyRhodes got more than the in-ring from the Dream, Congratulations! Regardless of what I think about the conduct of certain parties on the show, that's a hellofa house!

— Jim Cornette (@TheJimCornette) May 13, 2018



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In reality regardless of what anyone thinks of modern wrestling this is an accomplishment and it should be celebrated by those that enjoy wrestling.

Is this going to be on PPV as well or just a house show with a video to follow?



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Franchise wrote: In reality regardless of what anyone thinks of modern wrestling this is an accomplishment and it should be celebrated by those that enjoy wrestling.

Is this going to be on PPV as well or just a house show with a video to follow?

No announcement yet but clearly they’d be leaving a lot of money on the table to not get this streaming somewhere. I’m sure that will happen. 



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Predictably NWA champion Nick Aldis is now escheduled to make his ROH debut when ROH comes to the UK next week. He'll be teaming with a mystery partner against the Young Bucks, and I'm sure Cody will get involved to build heat between the two before All In. This is definitely a positive for the NWA.

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Mike Johnson writing about the strength of the Bullet Club brand made me wonder who owns the rights to it in the United States. The answer is New Japan Pro Wrestling. I wasn't sure if perhaps the Young Bucks got ownership stateside.

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tamalie wrote: Mike Johnson writing about the strength of the Bullet Club brand made me wonder who owns the rights to it in the United States. The answer is New Japan Pro Wrestling. I wasn't sure if perhaps the Young Bucks got ownership stateside.
Yes because Hot Topic had to go to New Japan to get the rights to market the shirts.  I believe they went to WWE first and asked them, but WWE told them they didn't own it, and that's what got the Bullet Club on WWEs radar.

I don't have numbers, but the local Hot Topic said they consistently sell Bullet Club shirts, to the point that if a day goes by where they don't sell one it's a surprise.  The guy said that Bullet Club merch and Funko Pop! items are what's paying their rent.



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Superstar wrote: tamalie wrote: Mike Johnson writing about the strength of the Bullet Club brand made me wonder who owns the rights to it in the United States. The answer is New Japan Pro Wrestling. I wasn't sure if perhaps the Young Bucks got ownership stateside.
Yes because Hot Topic had to go to New Japan to get the rights to market the shirts.  I believe they went to WWE first and asked them, but WWE told them they didn't own it, and that's what got the Bullet Club on WWEs radar.

I don't have numbers, but the local Hot Topic said they consistently sell Bullet Club shirts, to the point that if a day goes by where they don't sell one it's a surprise.  The guy said that Bullet Club merch and Funko Pop! items are what's paying their rent.

And it's apparent because I see Bullet Club shirts regularly on the street.  It's not quite at the level of Austin 3:16 shirts 20 years ago, but let's put it this way, from about 2001-2016 I could probably count on two hands how many times I saw a wrestling T-shirt "in the wild" if I wasn't at a place where wrestling fans should be.  Most of those times were at metal concerts (not counting Fozzy shows where you'd expect it) because there's always clearly been some crossover appeal between metal and wrestling fans.  In the past year though, I see a Bullet Club shirt at least twice a week if not more while just walking the streets of Manhattan from my office to the train.  I still never see WWE shirts. 



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The Bullet Club shirt works because it doesn't look like a wrestling shirt and I'd gather that more than one wearer of the shirt isn't a wrestling fan and just bought it because it looks cool. Most WWE shirts look like wrestling shirts and apart from the WWE not being as popular as it once was, even hardcore wrestling fans seem to be a bit self conscious about wearing obvious pro wrestling gear in public.

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Sorta surprising, due to the popularity of these shirts, some headline-seeking anti-gun group hasn't tried to accuse them of promoting gun violence - kinda like when they thought Al Snow promoted violence against women.

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tamalie wrote: Mike Johnson writing about the strength of the Bullet Club brand made me wonder who owns the rights to it in the United States. The answer is New Japan Pro Wrestling. I wasn't sure if perhaps the Young Bucks got ownership stateside.
I wonder what kind of creative control they have. It doesn’t serve them to do too many jobs in either NJPW or ROH, but it helps those companies to give their guys the rub and prepare for the day when the Bullet Club leaves. Also, who dictates the membership?  When ROH made Frankie Kazarian a member for a month just to set up the Christopher Daniels title win and swerve, did NJPW have to be consulted?  The Young Bucks?  Who approved Taiji Ishimori’s membership? It creates an interesting situation where you have a group in 2 companies but the brand of the group is bigger than both. It’s a little similar to NWO Japan, but this seems a lot looser with a lot more on the line for the wrestlers themselves, who are closer to freelancers. 



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srossi wrote: tamalie wrote: Mike Johnson writing about the strength of the Bullet Club brand made me wonder who owns the rights to it in the United States. The answer is New Japan Pro Wrestling. I wasn't sure if perhaps the Young Bucks got ownership stateside.
I wonder what kind of creative control they have. It doesn’t serve them to do too many jobs in either NJPW or ROH, but it helps those companies to give their guys the rub and prepare for the day when the Bullet Club leaves. Also, who dictates the membership?  When ROH made Frankie Kazarian a member for a month just to set up the Christopher Daniels title win and swerve, did NJPW have to be consulted?  The Young Bucks?  Who approved Taiji Ishimori’s membership? It creates an interesting situation where you have a group in 2 companies but the brand of the group is bigger than both. It’s a little similar to NWO Japan, but this seems a lot looser with a lot more on the line for the wrestlers themselves, who are closer to freelancers. 

And during a period of the NWO not everyone had the internet so things could be done in one promotion that wasn’t seen by the entire audience. 





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srossi wrote: Married Jo wrote: srossi wrote: The douchebaggery surrounding this podcast convention that Mike Johnson writes about is pretty staggering. Can wrestling fans never be happy?
I was reading on twitter Friday Bix being a realllll douche about Russo being invited lol. It's like Russo raped his mom or something, so fucking childish..

If Bix is involved, I'm not surprised. 


Exactly. Bix is a is a squeaky little fuckwit.

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Bix is interesting, he has a lot of information but I don’t enjoy how he presents it most of the time. He was apart of the 605 superpodcast for a year and I enjoy the show much more now that he is just an occasional guest. His between the sheets podcast was interesting but not interesting enough for me to listen to him which is too bad because you can tell he researches the hell out of stuff.



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Franchise wrote: Bix is interesting, he has a lot of information but I don’t enjoy how he presents it most of the time. He was apart of the 605 superpodcast for a year and I enjoy the show much more now that he is just an occasional guest. His between the sheets podcast was interesting but not interesting enough for me to listen to him which is too bad because you can tell he researches the hell out of stuff.
I started listening to the 6:05 podcast around 6 months ago but didn't put it together right away. Now it seems obvious and I feel foolish. 



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