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 Posted: Mon Mar 12th, 2018 07:59 am
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So we’re still getting Styles vs. Nakamura at least. It looks like WM will have Shane vs. Owens vs. Zayn too. I’m still thinking they go with Cena vs. Undertaker now.



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AJ Styles wins with a phenomenal forearm to Kevin Owens.

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srossi wrote: I’m still thinking they go with Cena vs. Undertaker now.

If not, then Cena gets married at Wrestlemania lol.

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Just watched it this morning...

I always read people complaining about the pre-show having promos cutting into the match. The pre-show isn't just shown on the Network, it's also on YouTube (and maybe other free platforms) as a way to try to get people to sign up to the Network, so I understand exactly why they have them.

I hate Randy Orton. Graves was talking some bullshit about Orton being how you would build a wrestler from scratch. He is just that, the "perfect" WWE wrestler, but I find him so boring. If you erased him from wrestling history, you would miss very little. He wrestles as if he is in a training gym with no one watching him. I don't understand why fans hate Reigns and Cena, but this guy gets a pass.

The end of the US title match sucked. Orton beat Roode, so Roode is a loser. Out comes Mahal, and gets planted by Roode, without getting in any offence, so now Roode and Mahal are losers. Then Roode gets his heat back, so now Orton is a loser as well. A WrestleMania match between three losers for the US title.

I had no problem with the Bludgeon Brothers coming out, but Paul Heyman would have still managed to find a way to book a winner in this match. Fans hate fucked finishes, but if there is a pinfall somewhere, people are happy.

Asuka coming out was a nice moment, and I am looking forward to that match. I suspect Bliss will be defending against Nia Jax.

The start of the 6-way match was beyond dumb. "If this was real..." The right man won, though, and I am looking forward to everything they build tonight towards WM.

Apart from Shane McMahon. Fuck Shane McMahon. I don't want to watch whatever combination of Zayn-Owen-Shane match they have planned for WM. He looked like a complete ass when Zayn asked him if he was a tough guy and he nodded his head, and pulling out the referee was bullshit.

Heels and faces? It's okay to say that we have no heels and faces and everyone is just a character, but the people want to cheer and boo and have an interest in who wins. Too many character are trying to be both at the moment and it makes no sense. Aiden English rags on the fans hometown (something I never get... most of us are watching on TV and who cares if anyone likes Columbus or not?) to get them to boo, then he gets the fan participation going with the Rusev Day chant (ELias does the same thing). Is Rusev a heel or a face? The fans want to cheer Rusev, WWE clearly want him as a heel, but they still have English out there cheerleading for him.

Shane McMahon is a face? He's being opposed by Owens and Zayn, who are heels (but the fans like them). Then he screws them both out of the match, even though he was clearly kicked by Owens as an accident. The fans boo Shane. Was this the desired outcome? Three heels in a feud. The only face in this mess is Daniel Bryan, who wasn't even there tonight. And he can't wrestle.



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Boz1515 wrote: srossi wrote: I’m still thinking they go with Cena vs. Undertaker now.

If not, then Cena gets married at Wrestlemania lol.

Oh, shit.



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Kriss wrote: Shane McMahon is a face? He's being opposed by Owens and Zayn, who are heels (but the fans like them). Then he screws them both out of the match, even though he was clearly kicked by Owens as an accident. The fans boo Shane. Was this the desired outcome? Three heels in a feud. The only face in this mess is Daniel Bryan, who wasn't even there tonight. And he can't wrestle.
Shane's interview with Rene Young on the post-show Talking Smack was about 85% heel.  Not just his words but his demeanor and everything about him.  So they're either pulling the trigger on a real turn for him or he's just so lost in his McMahon-ness that he's lost all sight of what his role should be here.  And actually, the way it's been booked, I really am not sure what it should be either.  If I didn't know better I'd think they're setting up Shane vs. Bryan at WM, or a 4-way match, but they're never going to clear Bryan.  So I really don't know what any of this mess is about, and I really wish that he could get out of the way so that we could finally get Owns vs. Zayn at WM without his involvement, but that won't happen.   

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One of the major problems (from my perspective) is the layout of a 5-way, 6-pack, modern Royal Rumbles.  Guys lying around in or outside of the ring for 10 minutes so that others can go 1-on-1 is too phony.

I'm glad AJ Styles won, but it was as if he suddenly popped up from a 10 min nap to hit the forearm for the victory.  It just comes across as phony comic book stuff.  It's probably worse in the Royal Rumbles.

I just don't enjoy multiple man matches.  Maybe it's because I'm a bit old school, but it seems like more of a spotfest as opposed to a psychology presentation.

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srossi wrote: If I didn't know better I'd think they're setting up Shane vs. Bryan at WM, or a 4-way match, but they're never going to clear Bryan. 

Well maybe that will actually happen.  Daniel Bryan is out there again telling everyone that he is once again trying to get cleared for WM, and that he has passed every doctor's visit with flying colors but it's still up to WWE medical staff.  The booking seems to dictate that this is the direction they need to go, otherwise none of it makes sense.  So Bryan has confirmed that WWE is at least considering a scenario where he wrestles with Shane, Owens, and Zayn at WM, and if they don't clear him there is a Plan B. 

Bryan returns to Smackdown on Tuesday to address the attack on Shane, so we should have a clearer idea of how they're trying to set it up for WM after that segment.

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