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 Posted: Sat May 12th, 2018 03:31 pm
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I dont think it's a name we kick around very often but I brought it up as he did have a run in the 'big leagues' and certainly had some behind the scenes influence.



The first I ever heard of Jimmy Hart was from Memphis where he managed 'The First Family Of Wrestling' but he did manage some 'names' such as Ox Baker, Randy Savage, King Kong Bundy and Rick Rude.


Hart was hired by the WWF and his first acquisition was the Intercontinental Champion Greg Valentine. Hart also notably managed King Kong Bundy to a super-quick Wrestlemania win over SD Jones and lead "the Hart Foundation' (Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart) to the WWF Tag Team Titles.


Other notables Managed by Hart included Terry Funk, The Honky Tonk Man, The Rogeau Brothers, The Nasty Boys and Adrian Adonis. Hart won 'The PWI Manager Of The Year' award twice during his career.

Hart went to TNA in 2003 but not much in terms of accomplishment.

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 Posted: Sat May 12th, 2018 03:49 pm
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He was a walking gimmick. A different air-brushed jacket for every guy he managed, the megaphone, the hair, the high-pitched voice. He was legitimately irritating, which was the point. If Herman and Cornette are the clear top managers ever, Hart is in that second tier with guys like Albano and Heyman. 

Behind the scenes I’ve honestly never heard anyone say a bad word about him. Even in WCW when everyone hated everyone, Hart managed to be aligned with Hogan without seeming to get any real heat from anyone else.

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Really good manager, at times great, especially in Memphis. Top 5 all time for me, behind Heenan and Cornette. Whether he fits in at number 3, 4 or 5 I wouldn't argue too much.



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 Posted: Sat May 12th, 2018 05:01 pm
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He might've been the backbone of the WWF during his time there in the mid-late 1980's. The music helped get a lot of wrestlers over and his managing was on point.



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Simply and absolutely horrible.

The only thing I could figure out is that he appealed to the kiddies and the new era fans. For me, he was similar to the Honkeytonk Man. Way over the top. I grew up with the Three Wisemen from The East. This guy was just not cutting it at all.

No interest at all. Probably part of what pushed me away from wrestling along with other things.

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Greg Valentine said when they told him they were going to have Jimmy Hart manage him he didnt even know who Jimmy hart was. he thought they meant Gary Hart. 
I was never really a fan of Jimmy Hart. i found him too cartoonish. which fit in perfectly with the WWF. 

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I think cartoonish is a great description of him compared to him being an “irritating”heel.

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I would put his Memphis body of work against any manager's run anywhere. He carried that territory as the lead heel for five years and did great business on a weekly circuit.
WWF and WCW turned him into a cartoon character, which likely prolonged his career. So, good for him. Great guy, too.



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I can remember him managing all of these guys in WWE:

1.     King Kong Bundy
2.     Bret “Hitman” Hart (Hart Foundation)
3.     Jim “The Anvil” Neidhart (Hart Foundation)
4.     Adrian Adonis
5.     Cowboy Bob Orton
6.     Terry Funk
7.     Dory “Hoss” Funk
8.     Jimmy Jack Funk
9.     “Dangerous” Danny Davis
10. Honky Tonk Man (Rhythm & Blues)
11. Greg “The Hammer” Valentine (Rhythm & Blues)
12. Judy Martin (Glamour Girls)
13. Leilani Kai (Glamour Girls)
14. Raymond Rougeau (Rougeau Brothers)
15. Jacques Rougeau/The Mountie (Rougeau Brothers)
16. Earthquake (Natural Disasters)
17. Dino Bravo
18. Brian Knobbs (Nasty Boys)
19. Jerry Saggs (Nasty Boys)
20. Typhoon (Natural Disasters)
21. Irwin R. Schyster (Money Inc.)
22. Ted DiBiase (Money Inc.)
23. Hulk Hogan (Mega Maniacs)
24. Brutus “The Barber” Beefcake (Mega Maniacs)
 
 
Tag Teams
 
1.     The Hart Foundation
2.     The Funks
3.     The Glamour Girls
4.     The Rougeau Brothers
5.     Rhythm & Blues
6.     The Nasty Boys
7.     The Natural Disasters
8.     Money Inc.
9.     The Mega Maniacs


I don't see him as second tier to anyone.  I feel like Bobby Heenan is the greatest, and Jimmy Hart is at least on par with Cornette, Albano, Blassie, etc.



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The AWA tried to sign Hart in late 84. Who would you have put him with? Could this have led to an alternative history where Savage and other Memphis guys are more prone to join Verne?

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Arnold_OldSchool wrote: The AWA tried to sign Hart in late 84. Who would you have put him with? Could this have led to an alternative history where Savage and other Memphis guys are more prone to join Verne?
I don't think so. Hart wouldve done OK there but I don't see him staying too long before Vince still comes calling.

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I'll also put him that second tier of managers. His selling always seemed very cartoonish, though. He probably holds the record for Most Managerial De-Pantsings, all time.

For trivia, you can add the Naturals (TNA, circa 2005) and the Moondogs (briefly in the fall of 1986) to his tag teams.

I'll give him credit for sticking around into the 2000's as basically an old-school heel manager. With his WCW guys like Meng, Jerry Flynn and Emory Hale/Hail.

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Erick Von Erich wrote: I'll give him credit for sticking around into the 2000's as basically an old-school heel manager. With his WCW guys like Meng, Jerry Flynn and Emory Hale/Hail.
Jimmy Hart also took over WCW Saturday Night as primary creative force after everyone else gave up on it, and within weeks made that show better than Raw or Nitro.  It was NXT before NXT, just this brilliant self-contained territory within the larger company that was doing its own thing and was booked so well and so much like one of the studio shows from the '70s.  What Hart was booking during that time period was better than anything Jim Cornette ever booked in his life, and no one even thinks of Hart as a booker.



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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2018 09:36 pm
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As an on air personality I hated him in a way that which he was probably going for.

Looking back I don’t really care for him but he doesn’t bother me either

His backstage contributions are big time so if nothing else he was a great contributor.



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Strictly as an on screen performer he was irritating AF to me but it more please just go away reaction. I've gone back and watched a lot of his Memphis stuff as well to see if I felt different and I didn't. I guess the best way to judge a heel is if you'd pay to watch him get his ass kicked and I'm sure he drew money but I wouldn't drop a dime to see Hart.

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