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Superstar wrote: Anybody think there's any chance that Batista signs with AEW?
Nope, not at all.  At this stage of his career, why would he?  He's never even met any of these guys (other than Cody) and is just looking for a high-profile vehicle to promote his movies while scratching the wrestling itch every once in a while.  Taking a chance on a start-up and alienating WWE is definitely not the way to do that. 



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srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: Anybody think there's any chance that Batista signs with AEW?
Nope, not at all.  At this stage of his career, why would he?  He's never even met any of these guys (other than Cody) and is just looking for a high-profile vehicle to promote his movies while scratching the wrestling itch every once in a while.  Taking a chance on a start-up and alienating WWE is definitely not the way to do that.
He just had lunch with Jericho in Florida.  That's the only reason I brought it up.  And that meeting happened AFTER he met with WWE.



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: Anybody think there's any chance that Batista signs with AEW?
Nope, not at all.  At this stage of his career, why would he?  He's never even met any of these guys (other than Cody) and is just looking for a high-profile vehicle to promote his movies while scratching the wrestling itch every once in a while.  Taking a chance on a start-up and alienating WWE is definitely not the way to do that.
He just had lunch with Jericho in Florida.  That's the only reason I brought it up.  And that meeting happened AFTER he met with WWE.

They could just be friends catching up, or maybe he's being strategic and trying to get WWE paranoid and driving his price up.  I would be shocked if he signs with AEW.



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He wants another big match with Hunter, so unless Stephanie divorces him, the match he wants can never happen in AEW.



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srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: Anybody think there's any chance that Batista signs with AEW?
Nope, not at all.  At this stage of his career, why would he?  He's never even met any of these guys (other than Cody) and is just looking for a high-profile vehicle to promote his movies while scratching the wrestling itch every once in a while.  Taking a chance on a start-up and alienating WWE is definitely not the way to do that.
He just had lunch with Jericho in Florida.  That's the only reason I brought it up.  And that meeting happened AFTER he met with WWE.

They could just be friends catching up, or maybe he's being strategic and trying to get WWE paranoid and driving his price up.  I would be shocked if he signs with AEW.
This was my exact thought.  There was no coincidence that Jericho posted the pic to Instagram.



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I’ve just seen my first AEW T-shirt in the wild. I’m at a Corrosion of Conformity concert. Seems about right.



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AEW has applied for trademarks for Bunkhouse Stampede, Battlebowl, and Bash at the Beach, all obviously former WCW events whose trademarks WWE let lapse.  Bunkhouse Stampede in particular is closely associated with Dusty Rhodes, so no surprise that Cody would grab it. 



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I think AEW has shot their load too soon. There aren't even any solid rumors about a TV deal, so it's a long way from anyone being able to watch it. Anyone signed to AEW is now not appearing anywhere anyone can see them apart from on the YouTubes. If and when, and I don't think it's by any means certain, they get on TV, their buzz will be all but over.

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Kriss wrote: I think AEW has shot their load too soon. There aren't even any solid rumors about a TV deal, so it's a long way from anyone being able to watch it. Anyone signed to AEW is now not appearing anywhere anyone can see them apart from on the YouTubes. If and when, and I don't think it's by any means certain, they get on TV, their buzz will be all but over.
I don't understand that comment at all.  They're building towards Double or Nothing in May at the MGM Grand, and have already announced another event in July.  These supercards are generating tons of buzz and selling tickets at major arenas.  They've also got that old NWO vibe of "who will join next" that they've created after only one official show, and that hasn't existed in wrestling in almost 20 years.  Every time rumors leak about someone being unhappy in WWE, AEW gets free publicity as everyone starts wondering if they will sign him.  They will likely make an announcement about a TV deal at one of them and then the buzz will go through the roof again. 

I think the only mistake they made was giving away the Young Bucks vs. Lucha Bros. unadvertised on a AAA show a few days ago when that match is booked for Double or Nothing. 

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I think you follow the indies a lot closer than I do. There has been a lot of buzz about who will join next, but all I see are WWE signing people. Certainly no can be said to have jumped. They might get people like Anderson & Gallows who aren't on WWE TV anyway. That's not Diesel and Razor.

Fair play if you are still excited, but I've moved on.

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AEW needs to get a few more "names" simply for the mainstream crowd. I think AEW has the die hard fans excited, and rightfully so, but the casual fans won't know what a Lucha Bro is, or who MFJ is.



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wittman2 wrote: AEW needs to get a few more "names" simply for the mainstream crowd. I think AEW has the die hard fans excited, and rightfully so, but the casual fans won't know what a Lucha Bro is, or who MFJ is.Honestly, and it goes against everything they are about, they really need to sign Bill Goldberg and get him to wrestle once or twice a year for the first two years.  He needs to do at least one TV per month in person, and that will be the "big name" that they can use to bring in some older fans that will in turn get hooked on the action from the regular guys.  Everybody wants "young, fresh, new", but in reality you have Cody, the Bucks, and Kenny who are all ten plus year vets as it is.  Put a face on the brand and roll with it.  He is the only guy I can possibly think would do it that would be a major name draw.  Austin could technically do it, but he wouldn't wrestle at all.  CM Punk would be the ultimate guy but he doesn't want to wrestle and part of me thinks that normal mainstream people won't take him seriously after the way he got his ass handed to him in UFC.  There's nobody else even close to being able to move the needle besides the guys I list above. 



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Superstar wrote: wittman2 wrote: AEW needs to get a few more "names" simply for the mainstream crowd. I think AEW has the die hard fans excited, and rightfully so, but the casual fans won't know what a Lucha Bro is, or who MFJ is.Honestly, and it goes against everything they are about, they really need to sign Bill Goldberg and get him to wrestle once or twice a year for the first two years.  He needs to do at least one TV per month in person, and that will be the "big name" that they can use to bring in some older fans that will in turn get hooked on the action from the regular guys.  Everybody wants "young, fresh, new", but in reality you have Cody, the Bucks, and Kenny who are all ten plus year vets as it is.  Put a face on the brand and roll with it.  He is the only guy I can possibly think would do it that would be a major name draw.  Austin could technically do it, but he wouldn't wrestle at all.  CM Punk would be the ultimate guy but he doesn't want to wrestle and part of me thinks that normal mainstream people won't take him seriously after the way he got his ass handed to him in UFC.  There's nobody else even close to being able to move the needle besides the guys I list above. 

Havng Goldberg squash guys half his size twice a year doesn't sound very interesting to me, and i don't know how else you would do it.  Goldberg isn't going to have a match that lasts more than 7 minutes, and who on the AEW roster could believably match up to him?  No one would even buy Goldberg vs. Cody, much less Goldberg vs. one of the 180-pounders they have.  Besides, they do have Jericho, who fits in better with what they do. 

I think that mainstream appeal is overrated if they can land a decent TV station and keep the social media interest strong, and of course sell tickets to live shows.  It's not 1998 anymore, you don't need to pull down a 5.0 rating on a top 10 basic cable station to be successful.  Niche shows with passionate fans can make money as long as you don't spend foolishly.  Remember that TNA had finally turned the corner and was in the black (barely, but they were) when they trid to get too big with Hogan and Bischoff and it basically ended the company in any practical sense.  They just need be able to pay the bills without being a financial burdon on their billionaire owner, exactly like ROH, and I think they can be around for 20+ years.  Otherwise, you're looking at the potential for a quick crash and burn.  And Rule #1 should be: WE ARE NOT COMPETING WITH WWE.  Be the best of the rest and everyone will make money.  Not tons, but enough.    



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srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: wittman2 wrote: AEW needs to get a few more "names" simply for the mainstream crowd. I think AEW has the die hard fans excited, and rightfully so, but the casual fans won't know what a Lucha Bro is, or who MFJ is.Honestly, and it goes against everything they are about, they really need to sign Bill Goldberg and get him to wrestle once or twice a year for the first two years.  He needs to do at least one TV per month in person, and that will be the "big name" that they can use to bring in some older fans that will in turn get hooked on the action from the regular guys.  Everybody wants "young, fresh, new", but in reality you have Cody, the Bucks, and Kenny who are all ten plus year vets as it is.  Put a face on the brand and roll with it.  He is the only guy I can possibly think would do it that would be a major name draw.  Austin could technically do it, but he wouldn't wrestle at all.  CM Punk would be the ultimate guy but he doesn't want to wrestle and part of me thinks that normal mainstream people won't take him seriously after the way he got his ass handed to him in UFC.  There's nobody else even close to being able to move the needle besides the guys I list above. 

Havng Goldberg squash guys half his size twice a year doesn't sound very interesting to me, and i don't know how else you would do it.  Goldberg isn't going to have a match that lasts more than 7 minutes, and who on the AEW roster could believably match up to him?  No one would even buy Goldberg vs. Cody, much less Goldberg vs. one of the 180-pounders they have.  Besides, they do have Jericho, who fits in better with what they do. 

I think that mainstream appeal is overrated if they can land a decent TV station and keep the social media interest strong, and of course sell tickets to live shows.  It's not 1998 anymore, you don't need to pull down a 5.0 rating on a top 10 basic cable station to be successful.  Niche shows with passionate fans can make money as long as you don't spend foolishly.  Remember that TNA had finally turned the corner and was in the black (barely, but they were) when they trid to get too big with Hogan and Bischoff and it basically ended the company in any practical sense.  They just need be able to pay the bills without being a financial burdon on their billionaire owner, exactly like ROH, and I think they can be around for 20+ years.  Otherwise, you're looking at the potential for a quick crash and burn.  And Rule #1 should be: WE ARE NOT COMPETING WITH WWE.  Be the best of the rest and everyone will make money.  Not tons, but enough.   
The only three big matches for Goldberg are Cody, Kenny, and Jericho.  And I think all three would sell tickets.  And honestly if you could get him for all three matches and put over at least Cody and/or Kenny with the Jericho match being a brawl that Goldberg wins, then you've accomplished something.  And I do believe that they need to keep an eye on WWE but try to do everything to NOT directly compete.  If they do things correctly, they could surpass ROH, but they will never surpass WWE.  They can hope that with a correct seven year plan that they could at least attempt to match WWE, but it cannot be in the media - it has to be behind the scenes.  I say that if done correctly, they could draw some major WWE stars to their brand over the next seven years, simply by doing basic things.  They are offering health insurance and taking care of all travel arrangements.  That is a HUGE expense to WWE talent.  Couple it with the fact that the only places that they may be going internationally are Canada, Mexico, and Japan, they are going to offer much easier travel schedules with no gimmick cards in places like Saudi Arabia or India.  If they draw the proper WWE talent to their brand, the people will follow them.  And I know it's a LONG TIME AGO, but both the ECW and WCW fanbases pretty much left wrestling when those companies folded.  I'm sure that there are some of those guys that now have kids and would gladly steer them towards an alternative to WWE.



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