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 Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2020 04:34 am
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srossi wrote: Eddie Kingston has now officially signed with AEW after his impressive match against Cody. No word on Warhorse yet.
Meltzer is reporting that the original plan was legitimately NOT to sign Kingston. Kingston was told by AEW that he was being brought in for 3 or 4 dates to complete a specific arc and he then expected to return to the NWA when Power started taping again. However AEW officials loved his promo and match so much and were so blown away by the social media reaction to his appearance that they surprised him by offering him a full contract. 

The NWA was not happy to lose him but are in chaos right now with even their Covid programming like Carneyland suspended following Dave Lagana’s firing, and no specific plans on how or when they can begin taping new content. Most of their talent have had their contracts expire during Covid and there is basically no management plan in place other than Billy Corgan himself to even reach out to talent. Corgan is said yo be understanding that formerly contracted talent can’t wait for them to get going again and has been supportive of everyone finding work elsewhere, but this really sucks for what was a fun studio show at times. 

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srossi wrote: srossi wrote: Eddie Kingston has now officially signed with AEW after his impressive match against Cody. No word on Warhorse yet.
Meltzer is reporting that the original plan was legitimately NOT to sign Kingston. Kingston was told by AEW that he was being brought in for 3 or 4 dates to complete a specific arc and he then expected to return to the NWA when Power started taping again. However AEW officials loved his promo and match so much and were so blown away by the social media reaction to his appearance that they surprised him by offering him a full contract. 

The NWA was not happy to lose him but are in chaos right now with even their Covid programming like Carneyland suspended following Dave Lagana’s firing, and no specific plans on how or when they can begin taping new content. Most of their talent have had their contracts expire during Covid and there is basically no management plan in place other than Billy Corgan himself to even reach out to talent. Corgan is said yo be understanding that formerly contracted talent can’t wait for them to get going again and has been supportive of everyone finding work elsewhere, but this really sucks for what was a fun studio show at times. 


Given the way that WWE, AEW and Impact are taping at the moment, unless the cost of testing is too prohibitive, I think Power is the show that would lose the least by having very few or no fans in attendance. As long as you don't show them, 15-20 distanced "fans" would be able to make almost as much noise as the 200 they usually have.



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srossi wrote: Dynamite’s viewership broke 900,000 this week for the first time since pre-pandemic and again finished top 5 in the coveted 18-49 demo, so it was a very good week for AEW.

It’s also worth noting that over the last few weeks, AEW and NXT combined are beating Raw’s ratings (and destroying it 18-49), so more fans are watching wrestling on Wednesdays than Mondays now. 


Matt Jackson has been doing some very funny stuff on Being the Elite where he is trying to figure out how to capture the 50+ demo that NXT always wins. A Bob Ross style painting segment, a gardening segment, and this week enlisting the help Chris Daniels as the roster's only 50 year-old wrestler.



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This week’s edition of Dynamite will be a tribute to tag team wrestling with an appearance by the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express and the in-ring reunion of Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard. Kenny Omega/Adam Page will defend the AEW Tag titles against Luchasaurus/Jungle Boy and the Young Bucks take on Evil Uno/Stu Grayson, amongst other tag team matches.



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srossi wrote: This week’s edition of Dynamite will be a tribute to tag team wrestling with an appearance by the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express and the in-ring reunion of Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard. Kenny Omega/Adam Page will defend the AEW Tag titles against Luchasaurus/Jungle Boy and the Young Bucks take on Evil Uno/Stu Grayson, amongst other tag team matches.
You mean Tully & Arn are rasslin'?

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freebirdsforever2019 wrote: srossi wrote: This week’s edition of Dynamite will be a tribute to tag team wrestling with an appearance by the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express and the in-ring reunion of Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard. Kenny Omega/Adam Page will defend the AEW Tag titles against Luchasaurus/Jungle Boy and the Young Bucks take on Evil Uno/Stu Grayson, amongst other tag team matches.
You mean Tully & Arn are rasslin'?

No of course not. They’re just going to appear in the ring together. They haven’t yet in AEW. 



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AEW has released 3 wrestlers, 2 of them connected to the British sex scandal.

Jimmy Havoc is officially gone.  He had been accused of sexual assault and was pulled from TV to undergo "mental health and substance abuse counseling".  He never appeared again despite living in the U.S.  He had been part of an undercard tag team with Kip Sabian at the time of the accusations. 

Bea Priestley was released.  She's the girlfriend of Will Ospreay and was accused of helping to blacklist Pollyanna after she made accusations about Ospreay.  She was quarantined in England and never appeared in AEW again.

The 3rd is British women's wrestler Sadie Gibbs, who only had a handful of matches before being quarantined in England and didn't seem to be in store for any type of push anyway.  

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So AEW's audience largely followed them to Saturday night, and NXT unopposed saw a bump but not a huge one (not surprising because WWE's audience is their audience, it doesn't seem to change much based on competition anymore, it just slowly erodes).

PWInsider:

The Saturday night edition of AEW Dynamite on 8/22 garnered 755,000 overnight viewers.  That was slightly down from their 792,000 overnight viewers on Wednesday 8/12.

Unopposed on Wednesday 8/19 edition of NXT did 853,000 overnight viewers, up from last week's 619,000 overnight viewers.  I would think that they had hoped to pick up more of the AEW audience than that.

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Want to know what's wrong with wrestling fans today? One thing, anyway. Read the thread on Classics (yeah, I know) and they mostly didn't like Hangman's angle. People don't have the ability to follow long term booking anymore. FTR got into his head last week about having to wrestle the Bucks. AEW never recap anything. Should they, I don't know. I hate WWE recapping what happened earlier on the same show, but maybe a "last week on AEW" is needed, because the subtle stuff is flying over people's heads. I listened to a couple of reviews of the show, and they were pointing out details that I had missed like the drinks on the bar. Who were the other two drinks for? I think the booking is fantastic, by the way. I feel rewarded for paying attention. If you pay attention in WWE, they will slap you in the face.



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Kriss wrote: Want to know what's wrong with wrestling fans today? One thing, anyway. Read the thread on Classics (yeah, I know) and they mostly didn't like Hangman's angle. People don't have the ability to follow long term booking anymore. FTR got into his head last week about having to wrestle the Bucks. AEW never recap anything. Should they, I don't know. I hate WWE recapping what happened earlier on the same show, but maybe a "last week on AEW" is needed, because the subtle stuff is flying over people's heads. I listened to a couple of reviews of the show, and they were pointing out details that I had missed like the drinks on the bar. Who were the other two drinks for? I think the booking is fantastic, by the way. I feel rewarded for paying attention. If you pay attention in WWE, they will slap you in the face.I agree with all of this. And yes, they need to start doing week to week recaps so Jim Cornette can understand the storylines.

Also, Kenny Omega was in the Thunderdome on Smackdown last night....


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Kriss wrote: Want to know what's wrong with wrestling fans today? One thing, anyway. Read the thread on Classics (yeah, I know) and they mostly didn't like Hangman's angle. People don't have the ability to follow long term booking anymore. FTR got into his head last week about having to wrestle the Bucks. AEW never recap anything. Should they, I don't know. I hate WWE recapping what happened earlier on the same show, but maybe a "last week on AEW" is needed, because the subtle stuff is flying over people's heads. I listened to a couple of reviews of the show, and they were pointing out details that I had missed like the drinks on the bar. Who were the other two drinks for? I think the booking is fantastic, by the way. I feel rewarded for paying attention. If you pay attention in WWE, they will slap you in the face.
A million times this. Watching AEW is like watching an HBO show, watching WWE is like watching an NBC sitcom. You definitely need to pay attention to the details, something I’m not used to because for 20 years WWE has just been background noise that can still be easily followed and makes no sense anyway. 

I will say this. They don’t need recaps per se, but the announcers should be pointing some of this stuff out and calling back to previous things and foreshadowing others. The JR of 20 years ago could do that, but he’s not the guy now. And Schiavone has been very good but the storytelling aspect has never been his strong suit. And Excalibur...no. 

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NXT 9/1/20

849,000 total viewers
0.26 in the 18-49 Demo


AEW Dynamite 9/2/20

928,000 total viewers
0.36 in the 18-49 Demo

The demo for Dynamite is tied with the 8/5 episode as their best performance since February and the total viewership is the highest since 3/18 - the first episode without fans.



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AEW had the best opening last night that I’ve seen in years. So simple, so effective, so funny. Jericho and MJF, the top 2 heels, both coming off big losses at the PPV. They pull into the parking lot coincidentally at the same time and briefly meet. They kiss each other’s asses in smarmy insincere ways as only their characters could do. Then they separate and both mumble “What a loser” at the same time. Fucking brilliant. This is only the 2nd time in a year their paths have crossed, both times with them feigning respect to each other but also being so egomaniacal that they secretly don’t like each other. They’ve never been in an angle together and they’ve never shared a screen for more than 2 minutes, but the seeds are planted so subtly for something down the road. AEW likely doesn’t even know what it is yet, but they don’t have to. Eventually they’ll do something and there will be a shred of a backstory with perfect character development. I’m not exaggerating in the least when I say that that simple 2 minute interaction may have been my favorite moment in wrestling all year, better than a million moonsaults through flaming tables. This is what AEW does that WWE just can’t.  And if WWE wrote the same skit, they’d blow it with bad acting and by having the guys in a blood feud by the end of Hour 1. AEW is writing Breaking Bad and WWE is writing “Jackass”. WWE has so trained me to NOT pay attention and just have it on as background noise that I find myself constantly needing to rewind AEW to catch stuff I missed that will never be recapped or shoved down my throat 6 million times. I have to remind myself, “Pay attention, this is actually like a real TV show that you need to really watch.”

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srossi wrote: AEW had the best opening last night that I’ve seen in years. So simple, so effective, so funny. Jericho and MJF, the top 2 heels, both coming off big losses at the PPV. They pull into the parking lot coincidentally at the same time and briefly meet. They kiss each other’s asses in smarmy insincere ways as only their characters could do. Then they separate and both mumble “What a loser” at the same time. Fucking brilliant. This is only the 2nd time in a year their paths have crossed, both times with them feigning respect to each other but also being so egomaniacal that they secretly don’t like each other. They’ve never been in an angle together or didn’t more than a minute in screen at the same time, but the seeds are planted so subtly for something down the road. AEW likely doesn’t even know what it is yet, but they don’t have to. Eventually they’ll do something and there will be a shred of a backstory with perfect character development. I’m not exaggerating in the least when I say that that simple 2 minute interaction may have been my favorite moment in wrestling all year, better than a million moonsaults through flaming tables. This is what AEW does that WWE just can’t.  And if WWE wrote the same skit, they’d blow it with bad acting and by having the guys in a blood feud by the end of Hour 1. AEW is writing Breaking Bad and WWE is writing “Jackass”. 

How much is AEW paying you, i need a side hustle to make some money because if this clip that I watched below was the reason for this high praise you just wrote, I want in on the money they are giving out....


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krazykid18 wrote: srossi wrote: AEW had the best opening last night that I’ve seen in years. So simple, so effective, so funny. Jericho and MJF, the top 2 heels, both coming off big losses at the PPV. They pull into the parking lot coincidentally at the same time and briefly meet. They kiss each other’s asses in smarmy insincere ways as only their characters could do. Then they separate and both mumble “What a loser” at the same time. Fucking brilliant. This is only the 2nd time in a year their paths have crossed, both times with them feigning respect to each other but also being so egomaniacal that they secretly don’t like each other. They’ve never been in an angle together or didn’t more than a minute in screen at the same time, but the seeds are planted so subtly for something down the road. AEW likely doesn’t even know what it is yet, but they don’t have to. Eventually they’ll do something and there will be a shred of a backstory with perfect character development. I’m not exaggerating in the least when I say that that simple 2 minute interaction may have been my favorite moment in wrestling all year, better than a million moonsaults through flaming tables. This is what AEW does that WWE just can’t.  And if WWE wrote the same skit, they’d blow it with bad acting and by having the guys in a blood feud by the end of Hour 1. AEW is writing Breaking Bad and WWE is writing “Jackass”. 

How much is AEW paying you, i need a side hustle to make some money because if this clip that I watched below was the reason for this high praise you just wrote, I want in on the money they are giving out....



Well we can’t all watch wrestling just to see ugly chicks snake their big asses and then pretend they’re the hottest thing on the planet. 



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