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WWE Hall of Famer Ric Flair spoke with TMZ.com, noting that he was upset over WWE's usage of the term "The Man" for Becky Lynch and that he is making steps to protect his legal ownership of the phrase in professional wrestling, noting that it's been connected to him for decades.

In the interview, which you can see embedded below, Flair said that initially, he had no problem because it was Lynch using his gimmick against his daughter Charlotte in 2018 and felt it was "cool" because it's his trademark and assumed he would be paid for it.  He received a royalty statement and when he questioned it, a WWE lawyer who "didn't have respect" for Flair told the former NWA, WCW and WWF Champion that he was wrong and that "it wasn't even close" that Flair should be paid for the usage of the term in conjunction with Lynch.  Flair had his attorney call WWE and they blew off his lawyer in early 2019.  He said that at point, he told Paul Levesque he was going to file for the trademark himself.

Flair noted that he's been using "To Be The Man" since 1981, has had merchandise produced with the term and even released an autobiography under that title.  He said that he loves the women's division and that he's happy they are stealing the show.  He said his beef isn't with Becky Lynch at all and even admitted his daughter Charlotte is mad at him over the situation, but that he his wife was the one person who was with him at his side the entire 31 days he was in ICU and 12 days when he was "dying" and he's going to take of her and her family and his family "no matter what." 

"I don't care what WWE thinks of me personally, " said Flair.  "I know they love me, but obviously, they've lost respect for me.  If I don't win, and even if I win, Becky can have it all day long.  I'm glad, but I want the company to pay me for it, because I want to take care of my family.  I am going to be the man, and if I don't get it, you know what my tombstone will say?  He died trying to be the man."




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This guy is so sad and he once again is biting the hand that feeds him.  He deserves what he gets and much as I hate to say it because Flair was my favorite wrestler for ages, WWE really should just cut him loose.  To think that Flair is going to nickel and dime though over a common nickname that he never trademarked after all the charity that WWE has basically given him and his family over the years.  Fuck this ungrateful dick.



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srossi wrote: This guy is so sad and he once again is biting the hand that feeds him.  He deserves what he gets and much as I hate to say it because Flair was my favorite wrestler for ages, WWE really should just cut him loose.  To think that Flair is going to nickel and dime though over a common nickname that he never trademarked after all the charity that WWE has basically given him and his family over the years.  Fuck this ungrateful dick.This is a *little* bit harsher than I was going to post, but you are spot on in terms of the result.  I can fully understand Flair being pissed off; it's been his gimmick for the past 35 years.  But the guy is a little bit of a hypocrite here because he took Nature Boy from Buddy Rogers, and Buddy didn't get paid for it.  And while I know it was a different time, Flair didn't trademark the phrase - and it's hard to say if you can trademark the phrase "The Man" because it's so vague - but he didn't do anything until now.  So "The Man" decided that getting 42 cents from every Becky Lynch T-shirt sale meant more to him than being loyal to a company that, even if you count probably the last million dollars they've paid him, hasn't asked him to do much of anything since he's been back from TNA yet still bailed him out of all of his legal trouble when he came back.  They got him out of his shit with Highspots and the other company that he used the NWA Title Belt as collateral (and yes, I know that they now own the NWA Belt, but Flair didn't walk away empty handed either), they paid his hospital bills when he almost died, they have gone over and above what any organization should have to do simply because they don't want "The Greatest Wrestler in the History of the Business" to die broke and homeless because it would make the entire industry look bad.  And WWE is pretty much the entire industry right now, you can argue it with me but they are the one and only true face of wrestling right now.  So Flair should just shut up and go home and Charlotte is right to be pissed about it because he's being a horses' ass.



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Superstar wrote: srossi wrote: This guy is so sad and he once again is biting the hand that feeds him.  He deserves what he gets and much as I hate to say it because Flair was my favorite wrestler for ages, WWE really should just cut him loose.  To think that Flair is going to nickel and dime though over a common nickname that he never trademarked after all the charity that WWE has basically given him and his family over the years.  Fuck this ungrateful dick.This is a *little* bit harsher than I was going to post, but you are spot on in terms of the result.  I can fully understand Flair being pissed off; it's been his gimmick for the past 35 years.  But the guy is a little bit of a hypocrite here because he took Nature Boy from Buddy Rogers, and Buddy didn't get paid for it.  And while I know it was a different time, Flair didn't trademark the phrase - and it's hard to say if you can trademark the phrase "The Man" because it's so vague - but he didn't do anything until now.  So "The Man" decided that getting 42 cents from every Becky Lynch T-shirt sale meant more to him than being loyal to a company that, even if you count probably the last million dollars they've paid him, hasn't asked him to do much of anything since he's been back from TNA yet still bailed him out of all of his legal trouble when he came back.  They got him out of his shit with Highspots and the other company that he used the NWA Title Belt as collateral (and yes, I know that they now own the NWA Belt, but Flair didn't walk away empty handed either), they paid his hospital bills when he almost died, they have gone over and above what any organization should have to do simply because they don't want "The Greatest Wrestler in the History of the Business" to die broke and homeless because it would make the entire industry look bad.  And WWE is pretty much the entire industry right now, you can argue it with me but they are the one and only true face of wrestling right now.  So Flair should just shut up and go home and Charlotte is right to be pissed about it because he's being a horses' ass.

You itemized it better than I could've, and I'm sure that WWE did even more for him that we're not aware of when he was done on his luck.  There's stuff involving Reid's death that I think they helped with.  So WWE should say fine, we'll give a few cents per item in royalties as soon as you pay back the millions of dollars we gave you as charity over the last couple of decades. 

I've seen this happen in families a lot too.  Someone gives an ungrateful dick (or a spouse) gifts for years and years, then something happens that results in a lawsuit.  But gifts are just that, and legally can't be factored in.  It's just really shitty from a morality perspective though.

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Even if Flair had trademarked his catchphrase, he can't claim to own something as generic as "The Man." If they want, I will be a witness that there was no marketplace confusion and I never once thought of Ric Flair when Becky Lynch was referring to herself as The Man. Can Bret Hart sue because Bianca Bel Air stole the -est from his catchphrase? Maybe his lawyer is J. Biggs and he is claiming precedent from Harlem Heat vs. Booker.

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The "I want to take care of my family" line indicates that he's just doing it to (potentially) get money.

If anything, he should try being like Michael Buffer and trademark "Wooo". That way, he can sue every fan in the building when they chant it after a chop. Then show up in random bedrooms and slap a law suit on somebody for saying it during sweet sexy time.



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Erick Von Erich wrote: The "I want to take care of my family" line indicates that he's just doing it to (potentially) get money.
The irony in the "taking care of the family" concept sinking in with this guy finally at age 70 on his 4th or 5th marriage with one kid dead and the other ones not really liking him.  And he's still at the bar in every photo he posts on Twitter.  Sorry to be so preachy.
I don't believe they took him back after he left last time to go to TNA after the retirement sendoffs they gave him.



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Flair is like Peter Pan, but with a bad heart, failing liver, overdrawn bank account, etc. due to decades of excessive drinking, partying, and bad financial decisions. He has never wanted to grown up and likely never will. I don't buy the "taking care of my family" line.. Probably just wants a pay day to continue to support his lifestyle which his doctors told him he needs to stop. But if he finally has woken up, good for him.

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Kriss wrote: Even if Flair had trademarked his catchphrase, he can't claim to own something as generic as "The Man." If they want, I will be a witness that there was no marketplace confusion and I never once thought of Ric Flair when Becky Lynch was referring to herself as The Man. 


Kriss must have crawled inside my head and read my mind. Or I did and read his mind. Exact same thought. Never once thought of Flair.

Although six months from now they'll release Charlotte and be done with him and her.

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A lot of people in WWE have unfollowed Ric on social media, including Triple H.

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Heenan Fan wrote: A lot of people in WWE have unfollowed Ric on social media, including Triple H.

THE JET FLYING, KISS STEALING, TWITTER UNFOLLOWING, DEBT PILING, DIVORCE FILING, CRYPT KEEPER LOOKING, ALIENATING SON OF A GUN, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

That's pretty big actually.  If HHH is done with him, that really doesn't bode well for him.  What a moron.



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How did Vader get away with calling himself "The Man" for all those years? In fact, how come the Beastie Boys don't sue Flair AND Lynch since they wrote the song "I'm The Man" before either of them were using it?



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Superstar wrote: How did Vader get away with calling himself "The Man" for all those years? In fact, how come the Beastie Boys don't sue Flair AND Lynch since they wrote the song "I'm The Man" before either of them were using it?
I'm sure variations of "I'm the man" go back to the early '60s.  If Flair trademarked his specific catchphrase "To be the man, you have to beat the man" then fine.  But he can't claim a common word as his own, and he never attempted to trademark this or anything else for decades.  I don't even know how he has a lawyer willing to make calls about this on his behalf.  Well I do know, the lawyer is billing for this time so why not?    



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srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: How did Vader get away with calling himself "The Man" for all those years? In fact, how come the Beastie Boys don't sue Flair AND Lynch since they wrote the song "I'm The Man" before either of them were using it?
I'm sure variations of "I'm the man" go back to the early '60s.  If Flair trademarked his specific catchphrase "To be the man, you have to beat the man" then fine.  But he can't claim a common word as his own, and he never attempted to trademark this or anything else for decades.  I don't even know how he has a lawyer willing to make calls about this on his behalf.  Well I do know, the lawyer is billing for this time so why not?    


Sid Vicious used the catchphrase "I am the man, I am the master and the ruler of the world." So who gets to sue who now?

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