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Women's champions 3-way ends the show with Becky Lynch (Raw) vs. Bayley (SD!) vs. Shayna Bazsler (NXT). Odd choice to main event but I guess Becky is still WWE's top star by default.

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Well, I'm done with the PPV. I saw all what I wanted to. Except for that Dominick beaten by his Father.

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Baszler taps out Bayley after knocking out Becky with a powerbomb through a table to win the match and the night for NXT.  They put NXT over huge to say the least tonight.

The final score: NXT -4, SD! - 2, Raw - 1

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Lynch throws a fit post-match and attacks Baszler and leaves her laying.  The show ends with her music playing.  That seems like small consolation. 



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I’m not very creative so maybe I’m missing something here but exactly what does NXT coming out on top at Survivor Series accomplish?


On one hand it legitimizes them as equal to the main rosters but on the other hand it makes the main rosters look weak. Unless the E plans on sending some of the talent on the main rosters packing and elevating NXT talent I’m not really seeing the purpose.


I actually watched both “PPV’s” this weekend and enjoyed them I just don’t see where they go from here. Even if they continue to cross over regularly I don’t really see how it helps anyone other than NXT if everyone stays. Is pumping up NXT the top priority even at the expense of Smackdown and Raw because they are the only one with head to head competition?

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Apparently Vince is very high on Keith Lee after this weekend. It was nice knowing you, Keith. A big shame, because he was my favorite current wrestler. He could well end up headlining WrestleMania, but I can't be bothered with the traditional two years of shit booking he'll get after his initial main roster push is over.

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Kriss wrote: Apparently Vince is very high on Keith Lee after this weekend. It was nice knowing you, Keith. A big shame, because he was my favorite current wrestler. He could well end up headlining WrestleMania, but I can't be bothered with the traditional two years of shit booking he'll get after his initial main roster push is over.
He's a big, athletic, charismatic guy and there aren't too many around with that combination anymore.  And the cynic in me can't help but think that him being black after the ACH stuff is another plus.



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Franchise wrote: I’m not very creative so maybe I’m missing something here but exactly what does NXT coming out on top at Survivor Series accomplish?


On one hand it legitimizes them as equal to the main rosters but on the other hand it makes the main rosters look weak. Unless the E plans on sending some of the talent on the main rosters packing and elevating NXT talent I’m not really seeing the purpose.


I actually watched both “PPV’s” this weekend and enjoyed them I just don’t see where they go from here. Even if they continue to cross over regularly I don’t really see how it helps anyone other than NXT if everyone stays. Is pumping up NXT the top priority even at the expense of Smackdown and Raw because they are the only one with head to head competition?

I hope they don't continue the cross-overs, although I feel like they almost have to now.  But what the hell happens to the other 80% of the Raw and SD! rosters?  Between the main guys they always push and all the NXT talent, half the company won't be getting TV time now, and so many are already unhappy.

They needed to establish NXT though with that show now being a USA property in a war with AEW.  The problem is they have to make too many people happy now.  FOX isn't thrilled with them at all, but they can only get over so much at one time, even if they do things well (and they rarely do things well).



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I didn’t read the spoilers, but is this show worth watching?



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Vintage Wrestling wrote: I didn’t read the spoilers, but is this show worth watching?
Yes.  One of the better WWE PPVs you'll see.



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srossi wrote: Vintage Wrestling wrote: I didn’t read the spoilers, but is this show worth watching?
Yes.  One of the better WWE PPVs you'll see.
Ok thanks. I’ll check it out later this week 



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Franchise wrote: I’m not very creative so maybe I’m missing something here but exactly what does NXT coming out on top at Survivor Series accomplish?
Vince fears the Khan.



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Heenan Fan wrote: Franchise wrote: I’m not very creative so maybe I’m missing something here but exactly what does NXT coming out on top at Survivor Series accomplish?
Vince fears the Khan.


Maybe more of Triple taking the creative lead in between Crown Jewel and Survivor Series.



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Kriss wrote: Heenan Fan wrote: Franchise wrote: I’m not very creative so maybe I’m missing something here but exactly what does NXT coming out on top at Survivor Series accomplish?
Vince fears the Khan.


Maybe more of Triple taking the creative lead in between Crown Jewel and Survivor Series.
I never thought I'd say this just 5 years ago or so, but let's hope so.



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srossi wrote: Franchise wrote: I’m not very creative so maybe I’m missing something here but exactly what does NXT coming out on top at Survivor Series accomplish?


On one hand it legitimizes them as equal to the main rosters but on the other hand it makes the main rosters look weak. Unless the E plans on sending some of the talent on the main rosters packing and elevating NXT talent I’m not really seeing the purpose.


I actually watched both “PPV’s” this weekend and enjoyed them I just don’t see where they go from here. Even if they continue to cross over regularly I don’t really see how it helps anyone other than NXT if everyone stays. Is pumping up NXT the top priority even at the expense of Smackdown and Raw because they are the only one with head to head competition?

I hope they don't continue the cross-overs, although I feel like they almost have to now.  But what the hell happens to the other 80% of the Raw and SD! rosters?  Between the main guys they always push and all the NXT talent, half the company won't be getting TV time now, and so many are already unhappy.

They needed to establish NXT though with that show now being a USA property in a war with AEW.  The problem is they have to make too many people happy now.  FOX isn't thrilled with them at all, but they can only get over so much at one time, even if they do things well (and they rarely do things well).

So post-Survivor Series, they re-booted Raw as much as they could without shifting any new talent.  They turned Rollins heel and Orton face, re-introduced Aleister Black and AOP, gave Misterio the U.S. title (which is the top title on the brand 90% of the time when Lesnar isn't there), put Matt Hardy back on TV (even if it was to get squashed), and reconfirmed a push for Buddy Murphy.  It looks like we might be heading towards a top heel faction of Rollins and AOP. 

All in all, it was one of the top 5 Raws of 2019 filled with some good, long matches and some directionless guys looking like they might have direction again.  But in 3 weeks when ratings are the same, does everything get thrown out the window once more for some cross-over hotshot bullshit?  

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