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srossi wrote: khawk wrote: I know it's a Vince vs. Florida pissing match to try and make someone else besides themselves cancel the event, but part of me wonders if Vince is greedy enough to know he'd be literally the only game on anywhere and the smell of the money and ratings/coverage is too much for him to resist.
At the end of the day, Florida isn't going to let this event happen, so I don't understand what's happening here.  Every other city is basically making a call, but Tampa is like, "Well we want WWE to make the call, and if they don't make the right one then we'll have another meeting."  That is asinine. 

As far as being the only game in town, it doesn't matter.  The tickets are already bought and paid for and whoever wants to see it for free on WWE Network (with a new subscription) can.  In your scenario the best he can hope for is that ESPN says "fuck it" and just devotes an hour to covering WM because they have nothing else to talk about.

 That said, Vince's attitude is "the show must go on" and even if it wasn't for the massive amount of money at stake here, I truly believe this is killing him.   I'd think he'd rather lose money and go on with the show than make money and cancel.  It's just his personality.  And Tampa wanting him to be the one to say it is rubbing salt in the wounds. Well the ESPN thing you referred to is more what I was thinking, yes. There are literally going to be no sports on anywhere...I was wondering how much that knowledge he was keeping in his head even knowing that a cancellation is inevitable.
It must be killing him, I agree.

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srossi wrote: kargol wrote: srossi wrote: khawk wrote: I know it's a Vince vs. Florida pissing match to try and make someone else besides themselves cancel the event, but part of me wonders if Vince is greedy enough to know he'd be literally the only game on anywhere and the smell of the money and ratings/coverage is too much for him to resist.
At the end of the day, Florida isn't going to let this event happen, so I don't understand what's happening here.  Every other city is basically making a call, but Tampa is like, "Well we want WWE to make the call, and if they don't make the right one then we'll have another meeting."  That is asinine. 

It is where the loss lies. If the thing doesn't go ahead, then WWE needs to refund the tickets.  If WWE cancels it unilaterally, then insurance will not cover it.  If the state cancels it, then the contract between WWE and the ticketbuyers is not merely voided, it is impossible by reason of law.  So insurance will cover that.

Certainly there are huge insurance issues with every other event and tour that is being cancelled, some bigger than WM.  And yet everyone else has found a way to make a timely decision.  What really irks me is Tampa's statement that there's still plenty of time, as if travelers can just decide that morning if they want to go or not.Not everyone else.  People were rocking up for Australian GP practice to find the gates closed.  Nobody had announced a race cancellation.
And then there's this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOX_CZEwVuM
I'm still waiting on a trip I'm meant to take on Tuesday.  I'm anticipating travel being banned but fucked if I'm going to take the financial hit by cancelling it myself.



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A group of us have been planning a week in Montreal for the NHL Draft. Rooms and plane have been paid for. I do not expect to get my money back when the draft is cancelled, pushed back or held behind closed doors. I suppose that refunds will not happen unless the airlines or hotels cancel their travellers on their own. And even then, probably not.

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I would check anyway on refunds or rebooking to other dates or locations. I'd venture that many hotel chains and airlines will be more liberal about accommodating changes than would normally be the case.

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tamalie wrote: I would check anyway on refunds or rebooking to other dates or locations. I'd venture that many hotel chains and airlines will be more liberal about accommodating changes than would normally be the case.
True. Airlines are giving away tickets right now. They will have empty planes for 2 months after this is all over. If you try to switch now for a trip in May or June, even for a vacation not related to hockey, they might be happy to help. 

Also I know of some people who had European flights canceled by the airline with full refunds. It’s possible, although Canada isn’t exactly Europe. 

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srossi wrote: tamalie wrote: I would check anyway on refunds or rebooking to other dates or locations. I'd venture that many hotel chains and airlines will be more liberal about accommodating changes than would normally be the case.
True. Airlines are giving away tickets right now. They will have empty planes for 2 months after this is all over. If you try to switch now for a trip in May or June, even for a vacation not related to hockey, they might be happy to help. 

Also I know of some people who had European flights canceled by the airline with full refunds. It’s possible, although Canada isn’t exactly Europe. 

I got a full refund yesterday on my hotel room for my daughters soccer tournament in Virginia on less than 24 hours notice. 



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khawk wrote: I know it's a Vince vs. Florida pissing match to try and make someone else besides themselves cancel the event, but part of me wonders if Vince is greedy enough to know he'd be literally the only game on anywhere and the smell of the money and ratings/coverage is too much for him to resist.
You have to remember that Vince is a person who sees anyone around him that coughs or sneezes around him to be weak. And yes, Vince is greedy enough to want to be the only game in town.

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This is still not canceled?


How tone deaf can Vince be?



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Blazer wrote: This is still not canceled?


How tone deaf can Vince be?

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he wants to announce the contingency plan and not just a cancellation, and that takes time. It could be rescheduled or moved to a small venue. It’s really Tampa’s non-statement that I have a bigger issue with. 



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Broadway is canceled. Sports are canceled (or postponed). WWE is kinda like an amalgamation of the two, but in weekly soap opera format.

I say shut it down and start showing “Best Of” shit on Mondays and Fridays for the next 4-5 weeks.



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Blazer wrote: Broadway is canceled. Sports are canceled (or postponed). WWE is kinda like an amalgamation of the two, but in weekly soap opera format.

I say shut it down and start showing “Best Of” shit on Mondays and Fridays for the next 4-5 weeks.

I doubt they will want to run Best Of shows, all that will do is draw attention to how far they’ve fallen. 



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Rumors that WWE is negotiating behind the scenes to get a June/July date for a rescheduled WM. There is zero chance this is happening as planned, but they want to nail down the back-up plan before saying anything.

Then the question becomes whether you blow off the currently scheduled matches (or at least some of them) at the PC in front of no fans and build a whole new card for WM, or drag out these angles for another 3 months and run the current card. There are no good answers to that one. 

Also, what happens to the international fans who can’t re-book everything in 3 months?  Do you offer refunds and sell those returned tickets to new fans?  The rule of thumb right now is that no one is getting refunds anywhere and are being told to hold onto their tickets for a rescheduled date. I’ve been told that 3 times already. 

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srossi wrote: Rumors that WWE is negotiating behind the scenes to get a June/July date for a rescheduled WM. There is zero chance this is happening as planned, but they want to nail down the back-up plan before saying anything.

LOL@ wrestlers  having to keep pointing to the Wrestlemania sign for 3 more months LMAO

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FOX 13 in Florida, which ironically is a broadcast partner of WWE, covered the latest on whether WrestleMania will take place in Tampa, FL on April 5. In case you wondered, all signs point to no way it happens.

Hillsborough County Commissioner Les Miller, who earlier this week told the masses at a press conference on Thursday that he was under the impression that WWE had a press conference of their own that same day to announce the status of WrestleMania, only to later find out that didn't happen, was quoted as saying, “I’m hoping that Vince McMahon and WrestleMania and WWE make the call themselves but a week from now, if they've not done that and we’re still in the situation we're in, we'll probably have to pull the plug on that."

FOX cited this statement from WWE: “While we remain committed to hosting WrestleMania at Raymond James Stadium on Sunday, April 5, we are putting contingency plans in place in the event that it is canceled by government officials, civil authorities and/or local venues.”

If that, and the fact that WWE had to run Smackdown in Florida in front of exactly zero fans wasn't enough to make you think that the show wasn't going to go on as planned, Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister stated, “I commend every sports franchise for erring on the side of caution. I hope the WWE follows suit. I don’t ever want to see people put profit over public safety.”

So at this point, all signs point to WrestleMania being, at best, postponed. It's just a matter of whether Vince McMahon or Hillsborough Country will be the one to make the call.



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Bray Wyatt killing his gimmick on Twitter:

If WrestleMania gets delayed The FIEND hereby challenges @JohnCena to a Bar Fight Deathmatch™️. This will take place at @Hooters.

Not kidding.



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