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 Posted: Tue Apr 14th, 2020 06:55 pm
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tamalie wrote: Heenan Fan, thank you for the kind words.

A few other Mid-South thoughts.


- The WWE has to dub out any copyrighted music. Sometimes it fits. JYD's music is generic, but it has the proper feel to it. However, the theme for Killer Karl Kox was comically bad. It sounded like something JYD would use when he's wearing a fatigued jacket and hat doing an ex marine gimmick as a potbellied, bald 50 year old. That was bad.


Interesting, I'm watching on the YouTubes and the music isn't dubbed.  KKK comes out to Here Come the Judge, or some shit.



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Spatulapup wrote: Arn Anderson says Bill Watts pissed off too much of the talent to survive in WCW. He started cutting down the wrestlers salaries. He cut Arn and Bobby Eatons salaries in half. He got rid of catering, wanted the wrestlers to eat their food out of lunchboxes. He was out of touch with how things had changed.In other words, Bill wanted the company to finally turn a profit and aactually make money. Ole Anderson was out of touch in 1992. Bill Watts was not. :?



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: tamalie wrote: Heenan Fan, thank you for the kind words.

A few other Mid-South thoughts.


- The WWE has to dub out any copyrighted music. Sometimes it fits. JYD's music is generic, but it has the proper feel to it. However, the theme for Killer Karl Kox was comically bad. It sounded like something JYD would use when he's wearing a fatigued jacket and hat doing an ex marine gimmick as a potbellied, bald 50 year old. That was bad.


Interesting, I'm watching on the YouTubes and the music isn't dubbed.  KKK comes out to Here Come the Judge, or some shit.

This explains the bad dubbing job. "Here Comes The Judge" had a late 1960s soul/early funk sound to it, assuming it was the Shorty Long version as opposed to the Pigmeat Markham version. Whoever did the dubbing for WWE Network probably just picked a tune with a similar feel, completely missing the cultural relevance of the replaced song from "Rowan and Martin's Laugh In" being a major pop radio hit and the lyrics relating to Kox as a judge of sorts when it came to taking out the heels.

cookie32723 wrote: I’ve always wanted to but have never watched mid south tv outside of a match here and there. Reading these has me intrigued and I might just give it a go. I’m guessing the superdome shows are nowhere to be found as tv builds to them??

A recent episode showed clips of fans entering the Superdome before one of the cards, showing this great throng of people like they were going to an NFL or MLB game. It looked very impressive. The idea was to show the fans at home that Mid-South Wrestling was at a major league level and to entice fans in New Orleans and its surrounding communities to come to future cards. 

The TV show airs house show footage fairly often, usually on film without sound or with crowd noise dubbed in. I don't recall seeing any Superdome action so far and figure they want the fans to pay to see what amounted to their supercards since they ran the stadium 2 to 4 times per year for loaded shows with gimmick matches, big feud blow offs, and big name fly ins. 

From 1984 onward, more Superdome matches made TV with the bouts now being videotaped professionally. I attribute it to the need for better content to fight the WWF, Joel Watts taking over production and upping the standards considerably, and the Power Pro Wrestling show going on the air. PPW for its first couple of years was a clip show and often aired house show matches from the Superdome, Tulsa, OKC, and Houston.

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World Championship Wrestling - September 19th, 1987.
One of my favorite matches, Luger vs. Windham

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I'm watching "Brains Behind the Brawn" on the Network.  One of the old Coliseum Home Videos.  This is at that point where a lot of the Coliseum Home Videos didn't include matches from house shows, but a lot of retreads from tv and PPV's that you've already seen a dozen times.

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I watched Wrestlewar 92 today with my son. I’ve always loved that show and still do. He was less than impressed and spent a portion of the show giving me his ideas how the E could duplicate the Cena v Fiend cut screen thing from Mania on a regular basis.



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Blazer wrote: Watts was trying to re-educate the fanbase, but things had changed so much in the five years that he was gone that it was almost a lost cause. That said, he was making headway and his run had a lot of highlights. I didn't agree with the off-the-top-rope or removing the mats. There was behind the scenes stuff that probably did more harm than good for morale (making injured guys travel on the road and show up at the house shows to announce they couldn't work rather than just no-show).

The Midnight Express-Heavenly Bodies angle was great.
Cactus vs. Sting feud
The Jake Roberts return in Baltimore
Simmons beating Vader in Baltimore
The off the charts tag-team booking
Turning Pillman heel
Rude vs Steamboat

1992 WCW was really underappreciated.


Late 91 thru Superbrawl 3 is right there with late 85 to early 87 JCP for me. Lots of good stuff, quality tv and some really solid tag wrestling. Both time frames had some real gems on the B and C shows. 



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Yesterday watched the 2nd hour of Wrestlemania 28, which was essentially the entire HHH vs. Taker HIAC match with HBK as ref including intros, post-match shit, etc. First time I had ever seen it. Slow start, but amazing storytelling at the end. I'm rewatching Manias that I've missed (I'm like a decade behind) so this is a fun exercise. 2012 WWE was tolerable. It'll be interesting to see when this falls off the cliff.


Also watched the Dark Side of the Ring ep on Montreal on Youtube.


Non-wrestling, watched the new Clone Wars ep yesterday.

I have WrestleWar 92 on dvd...might be inspired to watch that today after Franchise's post. Another of those early 90s WCW shows that for some reason alluded me (well, reason was I was in college and no access to or money for PPV).



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Blazer wrote: Yesterday watched the 2nd hour of Wrestlemania 28, which was essentially the entire HHH vs. Taker HIAC match with HBK as ref including intros, post-match shit, etc. First time I had ever seen it. Slow start, but amazing storytelling at the end. I'm rewatching Manias that I've missed (I'm like a decade behind) so this is a fun exercise. 2012 WWE was tolerable. It'll be interesting to see when this falls off the cliff.


Also watched the Dark Side of the Ring ep on Montreal on Youtube.


Non-wrestling, watched the new Clone Wars ep yesterday.

I have WrestleWar 92 on dvd...might be inspired to watch that today after Franchise's post. Another of those early 90s WCW shows that for some reason alluded me (well, reason was I was in college and no access to or money for PPV).

I grew up with the THV version which was a real solid 2hr show, the PPV version of the show on the network is a little slow sometimes. 



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Just watched the first match of WrestleWar 92. I'm reminded of how much I hate the fucking early 90s Freebirds. Channel changers. Sucked as heels, sucked even more as faces.



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A brunette Precious showed up out of nowhere for an interview with the Freebirds. Never saw her in this time period before. Looks a little bit like Terri Runnels. That was odd.



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The freebirds are terrible in this time period.



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Check out the clip on youtube where Cornette tells the story about the Birds no selling for Dr. Death & The Midnights in a 6 man. It's pretty funny.



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The first hour of WrestleWar 92 has the Freebirds looking gay as hell with eye makeup, then the next match is Johnny B Badd in full transvestite makeup, and the next match is Marcus Alexander Bagwell doing Chipendale’s shit with Scotty Flamingo dressed like a gay cabana boy. Who the hell was the audience for early 90s WCW undercard? Finally a hour into the show we get Mr Hughes and Cactus against JYD and Simmons.



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Blazer wrote: The first hour of WrestleWar 92 has the Freebirds looking gay as hell with eye makeup, then the next match is Johnny B Badd in full transvestite makeup, and the next match is Marcus Alexander Bagwell doing Chipendale’s shit with Scotty Flamingo dressed like a gay cabana boy. Who the hell was the audience for early 90s WCW undercard? Finally a hour into the show we get Mr Hughes and Cactus against JYD and Simmons.
It didn't dawn on me until you mentioned this. But now I'm convinced Goldust was yet another Vince rib on Dusty for all the gay shit he booked in WCW.  



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