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One Fan Gang wrote: srossi wrote: One Fan Gang wrote: I was only half-listening to the news report so "something like 60 Million" ranges between 80 bucks and 800 billion. You can call me Al...Alotoffoftherealtotal.
I hate that fucking song with a passion. That and “Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard” are 2 of the most obnoxious songs. 



These days Me and Julio would get scrubbed for the punishment described.   I do like this version from Sesame Street where before Simon even starts his lyrics, a girl freestyles her own version.  

That's pretty cute actually.  Paul kinda cut her off at the beginning, but he let her come back at the end.



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https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/paul-simon-catalog-sale-sony-music-publishing-1149800/

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I must be the biggest Paul Simon fan here. I even dig Songs from The Capeman and Hearts and Bones.

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sportatorium roach wrote: https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/paul-simon-catalog-sale-sony-music-publishing-1149800/That article said they bought the Simon & Garfunkel stuff too.  Don't tell Art, he may want a piece of that pie.



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OK - since this thread has gone down the rabbit hole so to speak, and people are commenting about Jericho and Stone Cold on Rossi's post - let me continue with what we are talking about now in music catalogs. My question to all of you is do you think that in wrestling terms that having all of these artists selling their catalogs to major labels who in turn will license them out for a fee, will that be beneficial to wrestlers or make it harder to get songs. Because Tony Khan has seemingly been negotiating straight with the bands/artists to buy rights for his wrestlers to have songs. I know that there is no way that NBC will go back and unscrub the videos that WWE already scrubbed of music, but do you think it will change the present and future if the music was more accessible? Do you think it will be more affordable or more costly?



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Superstar wrote: OK - since this thread has gone down the rabbit hole so to speak, and people are commenting about Jericho and Stone Cold on Rossi's post - let me continue with what we are talking about now in music catalogs. My question to all of you is do you think that in wrestling terms that having all of these artists selling their catalogs to major labels who in turn will license them out for a fee, will that be beneficial to wrestlers or make it harder to get songs. Because Tony Khan has seemingly been negotiating straight with the bands/artists to buy rights for his wrestlers to have songs. I know that there is no way that NBC will go back and unscrub the videos that WWE already scrubbed of music, but do you think it will change the present and future if the music was more accessible? Do you think it will be more affordable or more costly?
Negotiating with artists directly is always the best and easiest way to do this.  If you watched movie commentaries from years ago when that was all the rage after DVDs first came out, directors, actors, etc. would often be able to get in touch with even big-name artists eventually and have a one-on-one conversation to make their pitch to secure rights. That's continued and been made even easier with Twitter where celebrities can DM each other and just make it happen.  If a decent name is doing an indy movie with no budget, he can ask for a favor and more often than you'd think the artist is very receptive, although sometimes the artist even has to negotiate with his corporate overlords to get it done.  Same with documentaries, if you have no budget but are tackling a cause that you think Bruce Springsteen might approve of, you'd be surprised at how often you can get those rights for free/cheap.  The majority of musicians really are not trying to squeeze every penny out of you if you're a small project and they know you really don't have it. But with corporations owning everything now, the process will become much more cumbersome and more expensive.  Artists are losing complete control over their own works and are increasingly having no say in how they're used. 



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srossi wrote: Superstar wrote: OK - since this thread has gone down the rabbit hole so to speak, and people are commenting about Jericho and Stone Cold on Rossi's post - let me continue with what we are talking about now in music catalogs. My question to all of you is do you think that in wrestling terms that having all of these artists selling their catalogs to major labels who in turn will license them out for a fee, will that be beneficial to wrestlers or make it harder to get songs. Because Tony Khan has seemingly been negotiating straight with the bands/artists to buy rights for his wrestlers to have songs. I know that there is no way that NBC will go back and unscrub the videos that WWE already scrubbed of music, but do you think it will change the present and future if the music was more accessible? Do you think it will be more affordable or more costly?
Negotiating with artists directly is always the best and easiest way to do this.  If you watched movie commentaries from years ago when that was all the rage after DVDs first came out, directors, actors, etc. would often be able to get in touch with even big-name artists eventually and have a one-on-one conversation to make their pitch to secure rights. That's continued and been made even easier with Twitter where celebrities can DM each other and just make it happen.  If a decent name is doing an indy movie with no budget, he can ask for a favor and more often than you'd think the artist is very receptive, although sometimes the artist even has to negotiate with his corporate overlords to get it done.  Same with documentaries, if you have no budget but are tackling a cause that you think Bruce Springsteen might approve of, you'd be surprised at how often you can get those rights for free/cheap.  The majority of musicians really are not trying to squeeze every penny out of you if you're a small project and they know you really don't have it. But with corporations owning everything now, the process will become much more cumbersome and more expensive.  Artists are losing complete control over their own works and are increasingly having no say in how they're used. 
It's funny that you mention this.  Recently with the whole Free Britney movement, and the whole TV special done about her, they interviewed Craig Ferguson because he was seemingly the only person on TV that came to her aid back when she shaved her head and went nuts.  Ferguson refused to shit all over her and went on a ten minute rant at the beginning of his show about how everybody that does shit on her is taking the easy way out and the topic hits home with him because he battled addiction for decades.  He said that Britney never reached out to him, but he knows that she appreciated it because he wanted to use her song for a comedy special and his people said no way, you can't afford it.  So he reached out anyway and she sent him the rights for free.



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