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 Posted: Sun Jan 18th, 2009 02:41 pm
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I know it was a "hot bed" sort of.

I mean, how big was it honestly?

Did it even compare to Florida or the Mid Atlantic area?

Seen matches with AWA wrestlers there and NWA wrestlers there. Which was it?

I can see guys being on vacation and stopping in for a few matches here and there just I can't imagine it having much in terms of continuity.

The wrestling from Hawaii I have seen is okay it just seems like it is missing something in terms of storyline.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 18th, 2009 02:55 pm
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Didn't The Rock's grandmother run Hawaii with an iron fist and supposedly had people beaten down like the mafia if they crossed her?

The only thing I know about Hawaii is that they usually got the big stars coming back from Japan because it was a short flight and a nice working vacation and they had the big Polynesian Hot Summer Night supershow (I think in 1985) where everyone on the planet was booked (Dusty, Andre, Inoki, Fujinami, Magnum, Brody, Snuka, you name it) and Flair defended the NWA World title in the main event doing a double-DQ against the local guy Sivi Afi.

I know there was a famous Flair vs. Kerry von Erich World title match from Hawaii too.

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And by the way, how exactly did Snuka appear on that show?  Was he gone from the WWF that shortly after Wrestlemania?

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 Posted: Sun Jan 18th, 2009 05:29 pm
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srossi wrote: And by the way, how exactly did Snuka appear on that show?  Was he gone from the WWF that shortly after Wrestlemania?

If it happened after WM wouldn't Andre have looked up with the WWF at the time?
Maybe Vince did it as a favor to Peter's wife.
Maybe he wasn't concerned with his talent being used in a place like Hawaii. How often did the WWF work places like Hawaii and Alaska after his "national expansion?"



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Here's the full card:

Polynesian Hot Summer Night (8/3/85)
1. The Cobra (ch) beat Superfly Tui (NWA/WWF Jr. Heavyweight title match)
2. Seiji Sakaguchi beat Matt Borne
3. Tatsumi Fujinami/Kengo Kimura beat The Hoods (Johnny Mantell/Gene Lewis)
4. Jimmy Snuka beat Larry Sharpe
5. Manny Fernandez beat Black Bart by DQ
6. Steve Regal (ch) drew Mighty Milo (AWA Light-Heavyweight title match)
7. Debbie Combs beat Fallen Angel (Woman) by DQ (women’s match)
8. Leroy Brown/Farmer Boy Ipo beat Joel Deaton/Verne Deaton
9. Little Kevin beat Pancho Boy (midget match)
10. Richie Magnett beat Gypsy Joe
11. Dusty Rhodes/Magnum T.A. beat Nikita Koloff/Krusher Khruschev
12. Andre the Giant/Angelo Mosca/Steve Collins beat King Kong Bundy/Kevin Sullivan/Mark Lewin by DQ
13. Lars Anderson beat Bad News Allen (ch) (NWA Polynesian title match)
14. Rocky Johnson/Ricky Johnson beat Dirty White Boys (Tony Anthony/Len Denton) (ch) (NWA Polynesian Tag title match)
15. Antonio Inoki double-CO vs. Bruiser Brody
16. Ric Flair (ch) double-DQ vs. Siva Afi (NWA World title match)

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 Posted: Sun Jan 18th, 2009 05:43 pm
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Hawaii-pre Lia Maivia was always a stop over for guys making their way to and from Japan tours, so that statement is correct.  However, all the way back to the 1940's, Hawaii had its own stars, its own angles and was a Saturday night staple at the Blaisdell Center in Honolulu.

Johnny Barend spent the last decade of his career there and was THE number one heeel for years. Ripper Collins, Curtis Iaukea, and so many other guys made their home territory the Islands.  Tons of angles and tons of heat.

The territory was laso the launching pad for dozens of guys who would later hit fame in the major territories on the mainland.  Wheteher it was promoter Al Karasick, oe later Ed Francis, the action was always excellent.

Here's a great link:   http://www.50thstatebigtimewrestling.com/

Here is one of the more famous angles:

March 14 , 1970: Pedro Morales attacks Johnny Barend on KGMB TV


This incident between Johnny Barend and Pedro Morales took place due to a series of events between the two wrestlers:
(1) Back on December 25, 1969, Morales defended his North American Title against Barend at the Honolulu International Center (HIC). Prior to the match, a group of fans gave Morales a Christmas present of "a gold watch." Morales gave the watch to his friend wrestler Hahn Lee for safe keeping. During the third and deciding fall, Lee staggered out to the ring covered in blood. He told Morales that "They got the watch." While Morales and the referee went to Lee's aid, Barend took out a metal object and hit Morales, knocking him out. Barend then pinned Pedro and won the match.
(2) The following Saturday on KGMB TV's 50th State Wrestling show, Hahn Lee told the audience that he was attacked by Ripper Collins and Friday Allman, who took the watch from him. Meanwhile, Collins, Friday, and Barend would appear on TV wearing the watch and teasing Morales and Lee.
(3) Promoter Ed Francis ordered Barend and Collins to defend their Hawaiian Tag Team titles against Morales and Lee with the condition that if Morales and Lee won, the gold watch would be returned. On March 4, 1970, Morales and Lee defeated Barend and Collins.

(4) Finally, on March 14, 1970, during the locker room interviews, Lord Blears stood by as Collins gave Morales a long overdue Christmas present. Johnny Barend stood by with a big smile on his face. Friday Allman is on the left.

(5) When Morales opened the present, it contained a toy with a note attached saying "Merry Christmas Greaseball."

(6) Then Barend pulled out a pouch containing the real watch along with a hammer, lay the watch on the ground, and then smashed it to bits.

(7) Morales went nuts and attacked Barend. Pedro had to be separated from Barend by Hahn Lee, Ed Francis, and French Canadian wrestler Rene Goulet.

(8) Two weeks later, Morales would meet Barend in a stretcher match at the Honolulu International Center. The loser of the match would have to be carried out of the ring on a stretcher.

 



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I believe Hawaii was affiliated with both the AWA & NWA simultaneously, like Memphis in the 70's and early 80's. There were several native Hawaiian wrestlers who competed often in Hawaii, most notably king Curtis Iaukea. Others included Sam Steamboat, Mr. Fuji, Toru Tanaka, Jimmy Snuka, Dean Ho & Don Muraco. Many wrestlers who competed on the West Coast competed in Hawaii for a few weeks at a time. These included Nick Bockwinkle, Wilbur Snyder, Gene Kiniski, Luther Lindsay, Billy White Wolf, Jesse Ventura, Buddy Rose, Pedro Morales, The Destroyer, Dick Hutton, Billy Graham, Mado Guerrero, and several others.

Major stars who competed in Hawaii, besides those previously cited, include Rikidozan, Ripper Collins(7 time Hawaiian Champ), Lord James Blears, Neff Maivia, Johnny Barend, Fred Curry, The Sheik, High Chief Peter Maivia, Tor Kamatas, Bearcat Wright, Pampero Firpo(as The Missing Lnk), Bobby Shane, Jim Hady, Ray Steens, Pat Patterson, Killer Kowalksi,Dick the Bruiser, Fred Blassie, Dusty Rhodes, Andre the Giant, Bill Francis,Ed Francis(promoter), Russ Francis, and Billy Robinson.

It folded late 1980 or early 1981. A competitor, Polynesian Pacific Wrestling, I think that is what it's name was, began in 1980. The promoters were Peter & Lia Maivia. Lars Anderson was their big star. Others who competed included Ripper Collins, Siva Afi, Don Muraco, Bad News Allen(Bad News Brown), Superfly Tui Selinga, Leroy Brown, Farmer Boy Ipo, and Rocky Johnson. They folded in 1988, I believe.

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Thanks for posting that link Harry. That was one of the best fan pages I've ever seen. Very detailed and one of a kind pictures.



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I think Vince was ok with his guys working in Hawaii as a favor to the family, plus there was no chance of people in the east coast seeing Hawaiian TV so there wasn't any risk like there would be now seeing guys do jobs.



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I never got the impression that Hawaii was 'affiliated' with anybody.  It offered guys a chance to have a working vacation while not doing anything to foul up the booking back home.

Haven't you ever noticed how guys like Joe Blanchard, Gene Kiniski, Bob Geigel and a few others always seemed to show up on AWA tv for a one or two shot deal during deer hunting season in Minnesota?  Kinda the same thing.



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Hawaii was part of the NWA.

Lia Maivia was even NWA 2nd Vice Pres. back in the 80s according to one of the membership listings.

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sek69 wrote:
I think Vince was ok with his guys working in Hawaii as a favor to the family, plus there was no chance of people in the east coast seeing Hawaiian TV so there wasn't any risk like there would be now seeing guys do jobs.

PPCW had strongish national TV on FNN around this time.

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Bix wrote: sek69 wrote:
I think Vince was ok with his guys working in Hawaii as a favor to the family, plus there was no chance of people in the east coast seeing Hawaiian TV so there wasn't any risk like there would be now seeing guys do jobs.

PPCW had strongish national TV on FNN around this time.

And that would've been the station airing the Flair vs. von Erich match from Hawaii, although it's only in a quarter of the screen because the other 3/4 had stock quotes.

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srossi wrote: Didn't The Rock's grandmother run Hawaii with an iron fist and supposedly had people beaten down like the mafia if they crossed her?

There was a specific incident that happened in late 1988. An indy promoter was going to run shows in Honolulu and Hilo using some big names. Stan Hansen, Terry Gordy, Michael Hayes, Tommy Rich, Jerry Blackwell, and numerous others were all booked. This was at a point when Polynesian had been reduced to using mainly local guys apart from the odd New Japan midcarder and occasional mainland fly in, so it had been a long time since a lot of big time stars had appeared in the islands. When Lia Maivia and her booker Lars Anderson got wind of this, they allegedly threatened the indy promoter with physical violence to him and his family if he didn't cut them in on a percentage of the gate, rent their ring, and buy ad spots on their TV show in exchange for invading their territory. The indy promoter went to the authorities and it was big news in Hawaii when charges were filed against the Polynesian promoters. I don't know if anyone actually made it as far as a trial, but it did a lot of damage to a territory that was on its last legs anyway. As a side note, the indy shows bombed at the gate.

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Did Peter Miava actually run a promotion in Hawaii or did his wife get into that after he died?  I am not up on the history in wrestling but am curious because if I have the timeline right, he would have been running the promotion at the same time that he was competing in the WWWF.

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