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 Posted: Thu Dec 20th, 2007 07:23 am
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One of the more disappointing events I have seen... Hawk and Flair have a good match, but it's a repeat of the last two years plus Flair needed fresh singles opponents.  Even as a ten year old I knew Dusty was going to win the cage Bunkhouse so he could have his "hat trick."  Crockett really came off minor league when you consider the 1988 Royal Rumble was on the USA network the same time.  

I know long time JCP fans dislike Luger, but I would of had him win the Bunkhouse.  He was beginning his big babyface push, and would go onto wrestle Flair at the GAB PPV and Starrcade.  It would give Windham a reason to be jealous as well, making his heel turn make more sense.

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 Posted: Thu Dec 20th, 2007 04:49 pm
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Is this the one from Long Island? I've never seen it, but I've heard it was awful, and fans were chanting "boring" and "refund" throughout.



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Not one of Dusty's best Ideas holding a battle royale in a cage.

I agree with Dusty on his shoot interview..It was always his gimmick so he should have won the match.



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 Posted: Thu Dec 20th, 2007 05:32 pm
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My only problem with the Hawk vs. Flair matches is that even a kid who sort of still half-believed just knew that they were not going to take the single most recognizable, successful and marketable tag teams in the world and put the singles belt on one of them.

How do you have a battle royal in a cage? Toss all your opponents over the top of the cage?

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 Posted: Sat Dec 22nd, 2007 12:42 am
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Heretic wrote:
How do you have a battle royal in a cage? Toss all your opponents over the top of the cage?

 

Yeah, pretty much. that should tell you how successful that match was right there.

A regular Bunkhouse Battleroyal would have come off so much better.

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Also Long Island was one of the last places they should've held that event.  Long Island crowds suck period, but it wasn't at all NWA country and things that had a slight chance to get over in the south had no chance of getting over up here.  They wanted to come across as national and wanted to trick people who didn't know better into thinking they were in NYC and were competing with Vince on his home base.



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khawk wrote: Heretic wrote:
How do you have a battle royal in a cage? Toss all your opponents over the top of the cage?

 

Yeah, pretty much. that should tell you how successful that match was right there.

A regular Bunkhouse Battleroyal would have come off so much better.

You could also toss/knock your opponent through the door.  I have never seen the PPV but I have the Hawk-Flair match. The Bunkhouse Stampede Matches just, I don't know, seemed like they were trying to recapture the magic of Wargames and failed in spectacular fashion.  One great thing though is this was when the WWF and Crockett were doing their counter programing to in an attempt to neuter each other's cards and had the Bunkhouse not been a PPV we may very well not have ever gotten the Royal Rumble which has turned into one of the few consistently entertaining WWE PPVs.(Yeah I know the first one was free on USA)



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Rhodes couldnt run enough cage matches

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Now if it was a battle royal where the top rope was wrapped in barbed wire, then , yes, that could be interesting. Bloody as hell but interesting.



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srossi wrote:
Also Long Island was one of the last places they should've held that event.  Long Island crowds suck period, but it wasn't at all NWA country and things that had a slight chance to get over in the south had no chance of getting over up here.  They wanted to come across as national and wanted to trick people who didn't know better into thinking they were in NYC and were competing with Vince on his home base.


Flair brought up that point in his book. Who the fuck in New York is going to give a shit about a "Bunkhouse Stampede"? It's a Southern thene designed for a Southen audience.

The show was not just a bust on that level, but I recall reading in PWI back in the day that the tickets had the wrong starting time printed on them so that caused problems with attendance, not to mention Vince screwing with them again by running the Royal Rumble opposite on free cable.



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JCP ran Nassau Coliseum on Thanksgiving eve 1987 and pulled in nearly 13,000 fans to a card co headlined by Flair and Luger vs. The Road Warriors and a Wargames match. It seemed like the promotion was poised to have ongoing success in New York. Where things went wrong with the card was manner in which it was promoted.

Different tickets and ads showed different starting times. The ads that did run didn't get placed on radio stations and in papers that would have been seen by the biggest percentage of people. The promotion didn't even make best use of its WPIX-11 show when it came to interviews and promo pieces.

Then the card itself featured only five bouts, one of which was a dark match that took place before many fans had arrived. The overall length of the show was less than two and a half hours and the PPV portion of the card lasted less than two hours. Many of the boos and refund chants only began after the house lights came up and people realized the show was already over.

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I think Dusty fucked it up by winning the BS too. Big Bubba won the most $$$, but Dusty, refusing to allow anyone else outshine him, made himself the winner, and ruined any cred Bubba had as the storyline "bodyguard" for Cornette. Ruined all of BBR's heat right then and there.....



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stingmark wrote: I think Dusty fucked it up by winning the BS too. Big Bubba won the most $$$, but Dusty, refusing to allow anyone else outshine him, made himself the winner, and ruined any cred Bubba had as the storyline "bodyguard" for Cornette. Ruined all of BBR's heat right then and there.....
I think you are thinking about the Bunkhouse Stampede of 86-87.

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stingmark wrote:
I think Dusty fucked it up by winning the BS too. Big Bubba won the most $$$, but Dusty, refusing to allow anyone else outshine him, made himself the winner, and ruined any cred Bubba had as the storyline "bodyguard" for Cornette. Ruined all of BBR's heat right then and there.....

Bubba was already gone by this time, having quit in December of 1987. He and Dusty had tied for the most wins in 1986, then had a cage match in Pittsburgh that Dusty won in front of a legitimately big crowd in February of 1987. This January 1988 cage match featured Dusty, Animal, Luger, Tully, Arn, Barbarian, Warlord, and Ivan.

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Also don't forget that the WWF also copied the concept and ran their own bunkhouse matches using that name during 1987 pre-dating the Nassau show.  They also ran Nassau on 1/3/88 and had a bunkhouse match.  They probably had it suck on purpose which likely worked to kill Crockett's show 3 weeks later.

 

WWF @ Long Island, NY - Nassau Coliseum - January 3, 1988
Bam Bam Bigelow won a bunkhouse battle royal by last eliminating Demolition Ax & Smash; other participants included: Ernie Ladd, Don Muraco, Jacques & Raymond Rougeau, Dino Bravo, Hercules, the Junkyard Dog, Davey Boy Smith & the Dynamite Kid, Outback Jack, the One Man Gang, Hillbilly Jim, Ron Bass, Butch Reed, Lanny Poffo, Ken Patera, Billy Jack Haynes, George Steele, the Ultimate Warrior, Sam Houston, Danny Davis, Nikolai Volkoff & Boris Zhukov, and Sika

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