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Posted: Sat Jun 7th, 2008 07:11 pm |
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| How about Rufus R. "Freighttrain" Jones.
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Posted: Sat Jun 7th, 2008 08:42 pm |
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I would like to see a Killer Karl Krupp ring record.
I remember having an old Apter mag where they ran a story entitled, "Andre The Giant Wins His 1000th Match."
It was against Killer Karl Krupp. I often wondered how accurate that was.
Anyway Krupp was a favorite heel of mine when I was a little boy so I'd love to see what everyone has for him.
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 05:14 pm |
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The Hammer wrote: How about Rufus R. "Freighttrain" Jones.
I seem to recall reading that he also worked as 'Hobo Brazil' or somesuch when he was starting out in some promotion which blatantly used deceptively close names of established stars.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 12:05 am |
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| how about a Terry Gordy record book?
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 03:05 am |
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Rufus R Jones has actually crossed my mind. I have a bunch of results for him. Terry Gordy would be a difficult record book for me to do because he toured Japan so frequently. I would need help from a Japanese historian. Krupp got around quite a bit. I wonder if Vance has already started a record book for him. I don't think he has.
I've toyed with the idea of doing a Buddy Roberts record book. I have a buch of Hollywood Blondes results and a decent amount of Freebirds results. Plus I have him as Buddy Smith in the AWA. I would need help with the Dale Valentine portion of his career. Doing a Buddy Roberts record book would make doing the Gordy record book somewhat easier.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 09:02 am |
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The Freebirds is one I have thought about doing as well. One snag is that many times in Texas I see the results listed as just The Freebirds during the time when Hayes, Roberts and Gordy did the any two from three gimmick.
One thing with results from Japan, with all the legit newspaper coverage wrestling gets, I always assumed almost every result (at least from the main promotions) would be documented and recorded by someone. I'm sure I've seen Hisa mentioning that all New Japan and All Japn results are available.
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Posted: Sun Jun 15th, 2008 03:20 am |
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Has anyone done a Bill Dundee record book yet? If not that is a guy I wouldn't mind seeing results of. Even just to see how many times he wrestled Jerry Lawler would be cool.
I've always liked Bill Dundee, but I've recently acquired a new found appreciation for his work after watching a lot of his stuff on YouTube recently that was posted by GShea. You gotta give GShea one thing, he posts a lot of cool Memphis footage on there. Anyway Dundee was a very entertaining wrestler to watch and played the chicken shit, cocky heel to a Tee.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 06:44 am |
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Kriss wrote: The Freebirds is one I have thought about doing as well. One snag is that many times in Texas I see the results listed as just The Freebirds during the time when Hayes, Roberts and Gordy did the any two from three gimmick.
One thing with results from Japan, with all the legit newspaper coverage wrestling gets, I always assumed almost every result (at least from the main promotions) would be documented and recorded by someone. I'm sure I've seen Hisa mentioning that all New Japan and All Japn results are available.
i would love to see a freebirds record book as well, mr.clawmaster.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 06:45 am |
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| i don't remember seeing any mention for a pre-wwf ted diblase.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10th, 2008 02:36 am |
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Claw can you do one for #497 on the 2008 PWI 500 list, 'Worker Ant'?
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 07:04 pm |
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claw,
I did not know if this the appropriate place or not to put this post, but I am trying to find some more generalized information and some specific information.
What months did the War To Settle The Score begin on TV? They show Piper cracking Albano with the award.
I am looking for the months from that point up to the MTV match.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 08:37 pm |
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Graham Cawthon's site should have all that stuff.
WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - December 28, 1984 (26,092 including several thousand at Felt Forum)
It was backstage during this event that ABC '20/20' reporter John Stossel was assaulted by David Schultz during an interview in which Stossel asked Schultz if wrestling was fake; as a result of the incident, Stossel filed suit against both the WWF and Schultz
Televised on the MSG Network - included Gorilla Monsoon & Gene Okerlund on commentary; originally announced to appear were Paul Orndorff, Rocky Johnson, Angelo Mosca, and a match between Nikolai Volkoff and Tony Garea; featured Cyndi Lauper being presented an award by the WWF for her contributions over the past year, with Cyndi then giving the WWF a gold platinum record, accepted by WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan and WWF Women's Champion Wendi Richter; moments later, Lauper introduced Capt. Lou Albano and presented him with a record as well for his helping Lauper raise over $4 milliong for multiple sclerosis; eventually, Roddy Piper and Bob Orton Jr. came ringside, with Piper smashing the record over Albano's head, pushing Lauper down, and then bodyslamming David Wolff; Piper then went backstage when Hogan returned to the ring:
Brutus Beefcake (w/ Johnny V) pinned SD Jones at 13:22 with a running kneelift
Salvatore Bellamo pinned Johnny Rodz at 5:36 with a reverse crossbody off the middle turnbuckle; prior to the bout, Howard Finkel introduced Bellomo's parents who were sitting in the crowd
Japanese TV - 1/4/85; Prime Time Wrestling - 2/19/85: World Martial Arts Champion Antonio Inoki pinned David Schultz at 5:16 with an enzuiguri (Schultz and Inoki's last MSG appearance)
The Junkyard Dog pinned Paul Kelly at 3:05 with the powerslam (JYD's MSG debut)
Prime Time Wrestling - 2/19/85; Japanese TV - 1/4/85: The Cobra pinned the Black Tiger to win the vacant WWF Jr. Heavyweight Title at 12:29 with a tombstone and senton bomb off the top; after the bout, the Black Tiger attacked the Cobra after Cobra offered to shake hands; moments later, the Cobra retaliated by hitting Tiger with a steel chair (Best of the WWF Vol. 1)
Prime Time Wrestling - 2/19/85: Jimmy Snuka & the Tonga Kid fought Roddy Piper & Bob Orton Jr. to a double disqualification at 14:58 when all four men began brawling in the ring and Snuka shoved the referee to the mat; after the bout, Snuka & Tonga cleared the ring of the opposition (Rowdy Roddy Piper's Greatest Hits)
Prime Time Wrestling - 2/19/85: Mike Rotundo pinned Rene Goulet at 10:38 with an airplane spin
WWF Tag Team Champions Adrian Adonis & Dick Murdoch fought Jack & Jerry Brisco to a double count-out at 26:46 when all four men began brawling on the floor; after the match, the challengers put Adonis & Murdoch in simultaneous figure-4 leglocks
Prime Time Wrestling - 2/19/85: Barry Windham pinned Mr. Fuji at the 19-second mark with a bulldog
Japanese TV - 1/4/85; Prime Time Wrestling - 2/19/85: WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan pinned the Iron Sheik (w/ Freddie Blassie) at 3:31 with a powerslam and the legdrop
WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - February 18, 1985 (26,092 including several thousand at Felt Forum; sell out)
Televised on the MSG Network - included Gorilla Monsoon & Gene Okerlund on commentary:
Prime Time Wrestling - 3/19/85: Rick McGraw fought Moondog Spot to a 15-minute time-limit draw at 14:32 as McGraw had Spot covered with a superplex
Prime Time Wrestling - 3/19/85: Johnny Rodz pinned Jose Luis Rivera at 11:14 with a diving headbutt after Rivera missed a back elbow drop from the middle rope
All American Wrestling - 3/17/85: Hillbilly Jim defeated Rene Goulet via submission with a bearhug at 7:29; after the bout, Goulet had a verbal confrontation with Mr. T, who was sitting in the front row, until T jumped the guard rail and scared Goulet backstage (Hillbilly's MSG debut) (Biggest, Smallest, Strangest, Smallest, Wrestling's Country Boys)
Prime Time Wrestling - 3/5/85: Leilani Kai (w/ the Fabulous Moolah) pinned WWF Women's Champion Wendi Richter (w/ Cyndi Lauper & David Wolff) with a roll up to win the title at 11:49 after Moolah hit the champion with a forearm to the face as Richter was trying to help Lauper on the floor after she was attacked by Moolah; after the bout, Richter and Lauper scared Moolah and Kai from the ring (The Best of the WWF Vol. 5)
Prime Time Wrestling - 3/19/85: David Sammartino pinned Moondog Rex at 12:27 with a powerslam
Prime Time Wrestling - 3/19/85: Nikolai Volkoff (w/ Freddie Blassie) pinned Swede Hanson at 5:48 after picking Hanson up and dropping him to the mat
Prime Time Wrestling - 3/19/85: Jimmy Snuka pinned Bob Orton Jr. at 9:59 with a sunset flip into the ring after punching Orton’s injured left arm; moments prior to the finish, Orton seriously injured the arm after a missed charge resulted in Orton hitting the steel ring post (The Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80s)
Prime Time Wrestling - 3/19/85: Paul Orndorff pinned Tony Atlas at 6:08 with a German suplex into a bridge
Prime Time Wrestling - 3/19/85: WWF Tag Team Champions Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo (w/ Capt. Lou Albano) defeated the Spoiler & the Assassin at the 36-second mark when Windham pinned the Assassin with a bulldog
Prime Time Wrestling - 3/19/85: Don Muraco (w/ Mr. Fuji) pinned Salvatore Bellomo at 2:41 with the tombstone
The War to Settle the Score - aired live on MTV (9.1): WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan (w/ Capt. Lou Albano & Cyndi Lauper) defeated Roddy Piper (w/ Bob Orton Jr.) via disqualification at 7:40 after Paul Orndorff, who came ringside midway through the contest, joined Piper in attacking the champion after the referee was knocked out; moments later, as Piper and Orndorff prepared to knock Cyndi Lauper off the ring apron, Mr. T - who was sitting ringside for the event - came out of his seat and into the ring where he and Hogan faced off against Piper and Orndorff until officials and police swarmed the ring; prior to the bout, Piper came to the ring wearing a Hulk Hogan t-shirt and smashed a guitar in the ring to show what he thought of rock ‘n’ roll; after the match, Hogan celebrated in the ring with Mr. T, Albano, and Lauper; Bob Costas introduced the participants prior to the contest; later in the broadcast, Gene Okerlund conducted several interviews with MTV's Alan Hunter, WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan, David Wolff, Cyndi Lauper, Mr. T, Capt. Lou Albano, Andy Warhol, Billy Squire, Danny DeVito, and Roddy Piper (Rowdy Roddy Piper's Greatest Hits, The Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80s, Hulk Hogan: The Ultimate Anthology, Born to Controversy: The Roddy Piper Story)
WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - March 17, 1985 (18,700)
Televised on the MSG Network - featured Gorilla Monsoon & Gene Okerlund on commentary; included Mr. T as a guest of Piper's Pit, with Bob Orton Jr., Paul Orndorff, WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan, and Jimmy Snuka all present for the segment:
Prime Time Wrestling - 4/9/85: Rocky Johnson pinned Charlie Fulton at 3:51 with a sunset flip
Prime Time Wrestling - 4/9/85: Barry O pinned Rene Goulet at 8:50 with a small package
All American Wrestling - 4/7/85: Jim Neidhart (w/ Jimmy Hart) pinned SD Jones at 6:52 with a powerslam
Prime Time Wrestling - 4/9/85: King Kong Bundy (w/ Jimmy Hart) pinned Jose Luis Rivera at 2:30 with the Avalanche and an elbow drop
Prime Time Wrestling - 4/9/85: The Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff (w/ Freddie Blassie) defeated George Wells & Bret Hart at 8:45 when Sheik pinned Wells with an elbow drop after a kick to the face
Prime Time Wrestling - 4/9/85: David Sammartino pinned Matt Borne at 8:36 by reversing a powerslam into a cradle
Andre the Giant, Jimmy Snuka, & the Junkyard Dog (w/ Capt. Lou Albano) defeated Big John Studd, Jesse Ventura, & Ken Patera at 11:55 when Snuka pinned Patera with the top rope splash after a boot to the face from Andre (Best of the WWF Vol. 9)
Prime Time Wrestling - 4/9/85: Ricky Steamboat pinned Terry Gibbs at 4:36 with a crossbody off the top
Prime Time Wrestling - 4/9/85: WWF IC Champion Greg Valentine (w/ Jimmy Hart) pinned Tito Santana at 10:22 in a lumberjack match after both men collided and the champion fell on top for the win; lumberjacks included King Kong Bundy, Big John Studd, the Junkyard Dog, Barry O, Matt Borne, Ricky Steamboat, Jimmy Snuka, Rocky Johnson, Charlie Fulton, and Terry Gibbs (The WWF's Most Unusual Matches, The Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80s)
WrestleMania - New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - March 31, 1985 (19,121)
Pay-per-view bouts - featured Gorilla Monsoon & Jesse Ventura on commentary; included Gene Okerlund singing the National Anthem; Tommy Dreamer and Nunzio were both in attendance; featured Lord Alfred Hayes introducing the matches from backstage; included pre-taped backstage interviews by Okerlund with both Tito Santana and the Executioner, said to be undefeated, regarding their match on the card; featured Okerlund conducting pre-taped interviews with SD Jones and King Kong Bundy, with Jimmy Hart, regarding their match later in the show; included Okerlund conducting pre-taped backstage interviews with Matt Borne and Ricky Steamboat regarding their match later in the show; featured Okerlund conducting pre-taped backstage interviews with David & Bruno Sammartino and Brutus Beefcake & Johnny V regarding their match later in the show; featured Okerlund conducting pre-taped backstage interviews with WWF IC Champion Greg Valentine, with Hart, and the Junkyard Dog regarding their match later in the show; included Okerlund conducting pre-taped backstage interviews with Nikolai Volkoff & the Iron Sheik, with Freddie Blassie, and WWF Tag Team Champions Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo, with Capt. Lou Albano, regarding their match later in the show; featured Okerlund conducting backstage interviews with Big John Studd, with Bobby Heenan, about his bodyslam match later in the show against Andre the Giant; included Okerlund conducting backstage interviews with Cyndi Lauper and Wendi Richter and WWF Women's Champion Leilani Kai and the Fabulous Moolah regarding the women's title match later in the show:
Tito Santana defeated the Executioner (Buddy Rose) via submission with the figure-4 at 4:49 after the flying forearm (Rose's debut and last appearance for 5 years)
King Kong Bundy (w/ Jimmy Hart) pinned SD Jones at the 24-second mark with the Avalanche and a splash; the announced time of the match was 9 seconds (Grand Slams)
Ricky Steamboat pinned Matt Borne with the crossbody off the top at 4:38
David Sammartino (w/ Bruno Sammartino) fought Brutus Beefcake (w/ Johnny V) to a double disqualification at 11:44 when Johnny slammed David on the floor, with Bruno then chasing Johnny into the ring and all four men then brawling until Johnny and Beefcake were cleared from the ring (Best of the WWF Vol. 3)
The Junkyard Dog defeated WWF IC Champion Greg Valentine (w/ Jimmy Hart) via count-out at 6:55; Valentine originally won the match with both feet on the ropes for leverage at 6:00 but Tito Santana came out and told referee Dick Kroll what happened, with Kroll then continuing the match after Valentine had left the ring, with Valentine refusing to get back inside
Prime Time Wrestling - 4/17/85: Nikolai Volkoff & the Iron Sheik (w/ Freddie Blassie) defeated WWF Tag Team Champions Mike Rotundo & Barry Windham (w/ Capt. Lou Albano) to win the titles at 6:56 when Volkoff pinned Windham after Sheik hit Windham in the back with Blassie's cane; after the bout, Gene Okerlund conducted a backstage interview with Blassie and the new champions (Tag Team Champions)
Andre the Giant defeated Big John Studd (w/ Bobby Heenan) in a bodyslam match at 5:53; pre-match stipulations stated Andre would win $15,000 if he was able to slam Studd and would retire if he couldn't do it within the time-limit; after the bout, Andre began throwing the money into the crowd until Heenan grabbed the money bag and ran backstage; moments later, Gene Okerlund conducted a backstage interview with Andre regarding his win (Andre the Giant VHS, Andre the Giant DVD)
Prime Time Wrestling 5/1/85: Wendi Richter (w/ Cyndi Lauper) pinned WWF Women's Champion Leilani Kai (w/ the Fabulous Moolah) to win the title at 6:14 when the momentum of a crossbody off the top by Kai put Richter on top for the win; after the bout, Gene Okerlund conducted a backstage interview with Richter and Lauper, with David Wolfe (Amazing Managers)
WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan & Mr. T (w/ Jimmy Snuka) defeated Roddy Piper & Paul Orndorff (w/ Bob Orton Jr.) at 13:33 when Hogan pinned Orndorff after Orton accidentally knocked Orndorff out with a double axe handle off the top, using his arm cast, while refereee Pat Patterson was distracted; Billy Martin served as guest ring announcer for the match; prior to the bout, guest timekeeper Liberace danced in the ring with the Rockettes; Muhammed Ali served as the outside official while Patterson was the referee inside; former boxer Jose Torres was shown in the crowd during the introductions; Piper's team was escorted to the ring by a bagpipe band performing "Scotland the Brave;" after the bout, Piper and Orton left ringside, leaving Orndorff to be helped to his feet by Mr. T; a dazed Orndorff faced off with Hogan and T before eventually leaving the ring himself; moments later, Gene Okerlund conducted a backstage interview with Hogan, T, and Snuka; voted Pro Wrestling Illustrated's Match of the Year (Grudge Matches, Hulk Hogan: The Ultimate Anthology, Born to Controversy: The Roddy Piper Story)
Not sure what else you want.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 09:37 pm |
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carpetbeggar wrote: Claw can you do one for #497 on the 2008 PWI 500 list, 'Worker Ant'?
It's in German, but this seems to be Worker Ant's complete match history so far:
http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=4808
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Posted: Thu Dec 18th, 2008 05:42 pm |
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How about Claw doing a record book for Sailor White, aka Moondog King in the WWF, aka Big John Strongbo in South Africa?
He's a guy who always interests me and I know he was active in wrestling in his home province of Newfoundland right up until he died in 2005. I also heard there was a book about his life, I'm not sure if anyone here has read it...HarryG have you read it? Is it any good and worth seeking out to read?
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