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 Posted: Tue May 19th, 2015 08:30 pm
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I've looked and looked but have found very little information about the June 5, 1976 Texas Stadium card with Terry Funk defending the NWA strap against Fritz.
Could have swore at one time that I have seen a clipping for it but have no clue where I would have seen it.



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 Posted: Tue May 19th, 2015 08:50 pm
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I have also been frustrated by the lack of information about this card. Short of looking in the archives of the Dallas-Fort Worth newspapers, I'm not sure where the info might be. An ad definitely ran for the 1972 Texas Stadium show, but I've not seen one for the 1976 card.

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From the June 9 Amarillo Globe-Times:

"Fritz Von Erich failed to win the World Championship from Terry Funk last Saturday night at Texas Stadium in Irving. Both matmen were disqualified after 20 minutes for being out of the ring past the 20 count. Terry had to have 11 stitches over one eye."



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I'm more interested in the entire card.

One reason why I would like to see the results listed is I realize that in some lineups there is a Santo & Jose Lothario versus Al Hayes and Tim Brooks. No finish is listed or if the match took place.

While talking with Buddy Rose one night I brought up his time in Dallas and asked him about El Santo. He told me about driving him around and getting a chance to wrestle him. He told me he wrestled him at Texas Stadium and even recalled the finish.

Now I know some will roll their eyes but when it came to details about matches Buddy was rather clear headed and honest. And he usually had a very good memory about these things. He said it was the only time he worked Santo, but could not recall who his partner was.



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I took a gamble in newspaperarchives.com and found some information about the card. It's from a Spanish Language paper from Dallas, El So de Texas, which apparently published weekly. It ran ads for the show.

The headline of the ad read "El Santo en Persona" ("El Santo in Person") with a picture of the masked man along with an overhead shot of Texas Stadium. One of the ads was accompanied by a brief preview write up. Santo's match was billed above Fritz's. There was no mention of Paul Perschmann or of any other luchadors (thinking maybe Buddy worked against someone else and mistook it for Santo during the years).

June 5, 1976 - Texas Stadium - Irving, TX
1. Darling Dagmar vs. Diamond Lil
2. 7 midget battle royal
3. Andre The Giant vs. The Mongolian Stomper and JJ Dillon
4. El Santo and Jose Lothario vs. Killer Tim Brooks and Lord Alfred Hays
5. Terry Funk vs. Fritz Von Erich

Bell time was 8:00 PM. The low ticket price was $2, but the higher prices were not listed. The card was billed as The Super Bowl of Wrestling. The ad noted "Pelea de Enanitas" ("Battle of the Dwarves") and cited beneath it "Siete Super Luchas" ("Seven Super Wrestlers"). It would seem to imply a seven midget battle royal and I listed it above, but that's not 100%

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I looked in the following week's edition. Sadly there were no results of the card although it did include a wire service photo of the WWWF TV angle in which Gorilla Monsoon hoisted Muhammad Ali into an airplane spin to build up the Ali vs. Antonio Inoki match.

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Looking further into it, as Paul Perschmann, Buddy teamed in Houston with Brooks against Santo and Lothario on June 4, 1976, the evening before the Texas Stadium show. So perhaps he had the two cards mixed up in his head. That Houston card ran Andre vs. Stomper and Dillon as its main event.

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It is possible. He did mention he only wrestled him once, but he could have that mistaken too. It was really early in his career.
I've seen the tag match and the women's midget match listed before. But not sure if I've seen the Andre match. 
You'd think a major card would have a blurb in a Dallas/Fort Worth paper. 

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I'm certain of it, but those papers are not available online to my knowledge and may require looking at microfiche in Dallas-Fort Worth libraries.

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One of the reasons I posted the result of the main event from the Amarillo newspaper is that it differs from the result listed on Jason Campbell's site. I don't know what the source of Jason's result is.



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Being on this mobile device, I can only quick reply to thread topics and cannot start a new discussion topic, but if someone would like to create one for diecussion, feel free.

My inquiry is to gauge opinions on newspaper coverage of wrestling. Some people are from the school of thought that clippings validate the results of a card. But in various cases, the reporting of the event is skewed due to nuances in booking that a layman journalist might overlook. Things as simple as a result for a wrestler being "disqualified for being outside the ring" when it was a countout victory for the other guy. For news gathering, the newspaper listings are invaluable, but I always feel wary in the interpretations of things from novices.

I am curious what side of the fence our resident researchers are on.

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The Dallas Morning News archive has information about the card, but it's hidden behind a paywall via Newsbank with only a snippet provided. Does anyone have an account?

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One Fan Gang wrote: Being on this mobile device, I can only quick reply to thread topics and cannot start a new discussion topic, but if someone would like to create one for diecussion, feel free.

My inquiry is to gauge opinions on newspaper coverage of wrestling. Some people are from the school of thought that clippings validate the results of a card. But in various cases, the reporting of the event is skewed due to nuances in booking that a layman journalist might overlook. Things as simple as a result for a wrestler being "disqualified for being outside the ring" when it was a countout victory for the other guy. For news gathering, the newspaper listings are invaluable, but I always feel wary in the interpretations of things from novices.

I am curious what side of the fence our resident researchers are on.

Some speculation here, but I'm almost certain that the reporters didn't attend the wrestling matches with their pencils and notebooks like they would report on football or baseball. I think that newspaper editor would decide how much coverage he wanted to have of wrestling, probably in direct relation to the amount of advertising that was being paid for by the promoters. The preview articles were basically adverts anyway. Results articles were no doubt provided by the promoters, just as the previews were. Some evidence I have: (This is off the top of my head, but if anyone wants a detailed discussion on this, I can provide more definitive evidence)

- There was a time in Abilene when a new promoter took over the town, the newspaper reports on the shows for the first couple of weeks were very uncomplimentary, and the sports opinion column made some veiled comments about the correct way for promoters to treat the local newspaper. Something happened somewhere, because the reports changed in tone very noticeable to being favorable again after this.

- When Bassil Battah was promoting El Paso, all the Mexican wrestlers' gimmick names were translated into English, while the adverts all had their names in Spanish. The English names were never quite consistent either. Bassil Battah didn't speak English, and this points to a bi-lingual journalist with no wrestling knowledge translating everything, including names.

- Dory Funk, Jr. once mentioned that Jerry Kozak had a fantastic relationship with the newspapers. This is evidenced by the fact that the Amarillo newspapers carried quite detailed previews and reports right until the end in 1981. Most wrestling coverage in newspapers was either tiny, or only adverts in many towns by the mid-1970s.

- Admittedly, up to the 50s, the journalists probably were attending the matches, since there are often comments on the quality of the wrestling and the crowd reactions. By the 60s and 70s, there is no comment on quality, just on what happened.

Again, this all just comes from the sheer volume of stuff I've read, but I'm pretty sure that, by the 70s, whatever wrestling write-up there was in newspapers was the result of brief phone conversations between promoter and journalist.



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In most cases, in fact all of them I can think of. If there are results printed with no stories. That is the office calling in the results.

For instance out here in the northwest whoever ran the town would call the sports editor with quick results. And they were not accurate.

Sam Muchnick did this and always fudged on something, on purpose. And this is "honest Sam" were talking about.

I'm good buddies with Dean Silverstone and when he worked for the Northwest offices he called the results in and they were not always accurate. Don Owen did the same thing.

For me personally I've never really cared about match results, who won or who lost. I've always been a fan of seeing who worked the card, and if there was attendance I like to see that too. However those numbers are always fudged too, but you can still get an idea of how the territory is doing at the time.

I do like to see how booking trends by seeing finishes.



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The Dallas Times Herald ran Sportatorium results, don't know if they would've run these results or not.



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