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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 08:39 am |
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beejmi THE BIG KAHUNA 
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Now we are shooting for the shortest thread in messageboard history. I assume his AWA title losses (Gene Kiniski, Mr. M, The Crusher, Fritz Von Erich, Nick Bockwinkle, Mad Dog Vachon, Dr. X) were all by pinfall and I would be surprised if there were others. Another dumb question - Did he even venture outside of the AWA very often?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 01:50 pm |
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khawk Hall Of Famer 
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Verne wrestled in Japan for IWE and other groups, right through 1980 before retirement #1. He also had sporadic appearances at MSG through the 70's, including a couple of title defenses at least (Eddie Graham and Mr. Fuji). Verne I believe was also pinned by Bobby Duncum in 1976 a few times. There were a bunch of them in his more formative years (the 50's), but that was before the AWA came into existence. Plus he was pinned for falls in several 2/3 title matches in the 70's, including by Billy Robinson and Jimmy Valiant. I would guess that if you counted those there would be plenty more.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 02:05 pm |
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clawmaster Hall Of Famer
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Three outside of the AWA Title defenses for Verne, 5/15/72 Vancouver, BC AWA Champion Verne Gagne beat Kangaroo #1 Bulldog Bob Brown beat Dutch Savage Gene Kiniski & Emir Akbar beat Buck Ramstead & Lord James Blears Steven Little Bear beat Kangaroo #2 Billy Robinson beat Jack Bence Eddie Morrow & Fred Barron beat Ed Francis & John Foley Hahn Lee drew Mr. Ota 11/14/72 Tampa, FL @ Fort Homer Hesterly Armory Lights Out Match Jack Brisco beat Paul Jones Mike Graham handcuffed to Phil Robley Southern champion Buddy Colt beat Eddie Graham dq Bobby Shane beat Boris Malenko AWA Champion Verne Gagne beat Ronnie Garvin Sputnik Monroe & Norvell Austin beat Frank Hester & Bearcat Wright Mr Wrestling Tim Woods beat The Professsional Robert Fuller beat Mike Webster 5/21/74 Tampa, FL @ Fort Homer Hesterly Armory Steel Cage Match Bill Watts beat Buddy Colt Pak Song beat Dusty Rhodes COR AWA Champion Verne Gagne beat Red Beard Florida Champion Ron Fuller beat Johnny Valentine dq Hollywood Blondes Buddy Roberts & Jerry Brown beat Danny Hodge & Don Muraco Les Thornton beat Kevin Sullivan Lorenzo Parente beat Silento Rodriguez via pin
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 02:12 pm |
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clawmaster Hall Of Famer
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12/5/72 Des Moines, IA Harley Race & Roger Kirby beat Danny Little Bear & Black Angus AWA champion Verne Gagne beat Juan Sebastian Steve Bolus beat Leo Seitz Destroyer beat Bobby Whitlock Omar Atlas & Les Thornton beat Bennie Ramirez & Bill Howard 2/26/73 NY NY MSG WWWF Champion Pedro Morales beat King Curtis AWA Champion Verne Gagne beat Eddie Graham (sub Ray Stevens) Mil Mascaras beat Buddy Wolff Victor Rivera beat Dory Funk Sr Terry Funk beat Chuck Richards Mike Graham beat Joe Turco Tony Garea beat Mike Conrad Susan Green & Lily Thomas beat Peggy Patterson & Paula Kaye 4/21/75 Tulsa, OK @ Fairgrounds Arena Ken Mantell beat Scandor Akbar Bill Watts beat Ciclon Negro AWA Champion Verne Gagne beat Jerry Miller Dick Murdoch beat Grizzly Smith Pork Chop Cash drew Buck Robley Ted Heath beat Mitsu Hata Stan Hansen & Frank Goodish beat Johnny Eagle & Jay Clayton
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 02:26 pm |
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clawmaster Hall Of Famer
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When the AWA was first formed, Verne still travelled quite a bit. One of the places he wrestled a lot was Detroit. Notice Detroit did not recognize the AWA Title. Instead Verne competed for the US Title in Detroit. 10/29/60 Detroit Verne Gagne & Yukon Eric beat Dick The Bruiser & Raoul Romero Killer Kowalski beat Pepper Gomez Joe Brunetti beat Ray Shire Roy Shire beat Guy Brunetti Luis Martinez beat Tom Zaharias 12/30/60 Olympia Stadium Detroit Dick The Bruiser & Killer Kowalski drew Verne Gagne & Argentina Rocca 2/3 Wilbur Snyder beat Ernie Dusek Jack Pesek beat George McArthur Emile Dupre drew Larry Hamilton Dick Garza drew Luis Martinez A- 5,178 4/15/61 Detroit Olympia Stadium US Champion Dick The Bruiser beat Leo Nomellini on a 3rd fall COR Gene Big Daddy Lipscomb beat Frank Valois Verne Gagne beat Gene Kiniski Bobo Brazil beat Bill Miller Killer Kowalski beat Emil Dupre Prince Koko beat Jack Allen (sub Bruno Sammartino) Johnny Weaver beat Joe Swiderski att: 5,672 6/23/61 Detroit, MI @ Briggs Stadium US Champion Dick The Bruiser beat Bobo Brazil 2/3 NWA Champion Pat O'Connor beat Don Leo Jonathan Verne Gagne beat Kinji Shibuya Haystack Calhoun drew Killer Kowalski Bob Ellis beat Roy Shire Red & Lou Bastien drew Art Neilson & Ray Shire Sheik of Araby beat Emil Dupre Johnny Weaver beat Taro Myaki Cowboy Bradley & Lord Littlebrook beat Bull Brummel & Tiny Roe att: 11,097, gate: $36,866. 7/21/61 Hazel Park, MI @ Hazel Park Race Track Verne Gagne beat Dick The Bruiser to win US Title Yukon Eric & Haystack Calhoun vs Don Leo Jonathan & Killer Kowalski Bobo Brazil vs Judo Jack Terry 8/30/61 Detroit US Champion Verne Gagne beat Dick The Bruiser NWA Champion Buddy Rogers vs Ray Stern 9/23/61 Detroit Dick The Bruiser beat Verne Gagne to regain US Title 2/3 Wilbur Snyder beat Killer Kowalski Stan Neilson drew Sonny Weaver Bobo Brazil & Bearcat Wright beat Bronco Lubich & Angelo Poffo Fritz Von Erich beat Dan O’Shocker Art Neilson vs Johnny Weaver 10/14/61 Detroit Texas Death Match Dick The Bruiser & Killer Kowalski no contest Wilbur Snyder & Verne Gagne Fritz Von Erich vs Bearcat Wright Cowboy Bob Ellis vs Angelo Poffo Pedro Godoy vs Bobo Brazil Hercules Romero vs Bronko Lubich 12/29/62 Detroit Special Referee: Verne Gagne US Champion Lord Layton beat Dick The Bruiser dq when Bruiser knocked out Gagne Lou Thesz beat Steve Stanlee (sub Mark Lewin) Czaja Nandor beat Angelo Poffo Bearcat Wright beat Taro Sakuro Sweet Daddy Siki beat Great Kudo Ray Stern beat Nicoli Volkoff The Mongol beat Tim Geohagen Sam Steamboat beat Don Jardine Rudy Kay beat Pierre LaBelle Att 15,267 1/19/63 Detroit One wrestling show bred another when Dick the Bruiser failed to reach Detroit because of bad flying weather. His bout with Verne Gagne was rescheduled for monday night (with a new supporting card) and promoter Johnny Doyle said any of the 7,018 spectators may get in free by presenting their ticket stubs. Verne Gagne beat Mark Lewin Fritz Von Erich beat Czaja Nandor 2/3 The Sheik no contest Bearcat Wright Rudy Kay drew Alberto Torres Ramon Torres beat Pierre LaBelle Emile Dupre drew Chief Kit Fox 1/21/63 Detroit Verne Gagne drew Dick The Bruiser Mark Lewin drew Ray Stern Ray Stevens beat Alberto Torres Bill Miller beat Ramon Torres Czaja Nandor beat Pierre LaBelle Kit Fox beat Rudy Kay att: 7,000
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 02:32 pm |
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clawmaster Hall Of Famer
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Verne lost some non title matches in the AWA. A few to Ivan Koloff, A few to Billy Robinson. He also would drop falls in 2 out of 3 fall bouts. Jimmy Valiant even won a fall by pin against Verne in Chicago before Verne rallied to win the next two. I'll post some more outside the AWA appearances for Verne later today when I have more time. Khawk mentioned MSG. Verne wrestled Buddy Wolff there and also teamed with Andre against The Valiant Brothers at MSG. I'll post that stuff later.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 02:58 pm |
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khawk Hall Of Famer
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There's also a match available on 24/7 from MSG in the 70's where Verne pinned Nicolai Volkoff. He didn't have the AWA title at that time so it's post-75, that much I remember.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 05:38 pm |
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clawmaster Hall Of Famer
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11/27/72 NY NY MSG WWWF Champion Pedro Morales beat Ray Stevens WWWF Tag Team Champions Prof. Toru Tanaka & Mr. Fuji drew Gorilla Monsoon & Chief Jay Strongbow 20:00 Non Title Match AWA Champion Verne Gagne beat Buddy Wolff Victor Rivera drew the Spoiler 20:00 Eddie Graham beat Blackjack Slade Black Gordman beat Sonny King Tony Garea beat Chuck O'Connor El Olympico beat Joe Turco 11/12/73 NY NY MSG WWWF Champion Pedro Morales beat Larry Hennig Chief Jay Strongbow & Andre the Giant beat Blackjack Lanza & Stan Stasiak 2-0 Non Title Match AWA Champion Verne Gagne beat Mr. Fuji Don Leo Jonathan beat Tony Garea Iron Mike McCord drew Manuel Soto 20:00 Dick Slater beat Mike Pappas Jose Gonzalez beat El Olympico Dean Ho beat Pancho Valdez att: 16,148 8/9/75 NY NY MSG WWWF Champion Bruno Sammartino beat George Steele Andre the Giant & Verne Gagne beat Johnny & Jimmy Valiant 2-0 WWWF Tag Team Champions Pat Barrett & Dominic DeNucci beat the Blackjacks dq Spiros Arion beat Dean Ho Chief Jay Strongbow drew Waldo Von Erich 20:00 Bugsy McGraw beat Tony Garea Victor Rivera beat Butcher Vachon Baron Mikel Scicluna beat Manuel Soto 8/29/77 NY NY MSG WWWF Champion Superstar Billy Graham beat Ivan Putski Bruno Sammartino beat Ken Patera Peter Maivia beat Stan Stasiak Verne Gagne beat Nikolai Volkoff Tony Garea & Larry Zbyszko beat George Steele & Baron Scicluna Jay Strongbow drew Mr. Fuji S.D. Jones beat Jack Evans Johnny Rivera beat Joe Turco Lenny Hurst beat Rocky Tamayo att: 22,091
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 05:44 pm |
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clawmaster Hall Of Famer
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8/13/78 Toronto, Ontario, Canada @ Maple Leaf Gardens Cage match WWWF Champion Bob Backlund beat Superstar Billy Graham AWA Tag Team Champions Greg Gagne & Jim Brunzell beat Pat Patterson & Ray Stevens COR Gorilla Monsoon beat Dominic Denucci Waldo Von Erich beat Steve Bolus Super Destroyer Mark II beat Verne Gagne via pin after Lord Alfred Hayes interfered The Wildman drew Nick DeCarlo Billy Red Lyons & Dewey Robertson beat Mad Dog Vachon & Chris Tolos dq
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 05:47 pm |
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clawmaster Hall Of Famer
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2/20/62 Tampa Dick The Bruiser vs Eddie Graham Kurt & Karl Von Brauner vs Joe Scarpa & Ray Villmer Mike Dibiase vs Wilbur Snyder Verne Gagne drew Dick Steinborn Mr. M aka Bill Miller was the AWA Champion at the time of this match.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 05:50 pm |
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bingo914
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clawmaster wrote: 8/13/78 Toronto, Ontario, Canada @ Maple Leaf Gardens Super Destroyer Mark II = Slaughter?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 07:02 pm |
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clawmaster Hall Of Famer
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Yes.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19th, 2007 10:40 pm |
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srossi
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Verne began his career working NWA territories just like almost everyone else and had little political power at the time. He was best known during that time period for wrestling in Fred Kohler's Chicago territory and appearing on the Dumont Network's Marigold TV shows, called by Jack Brickhouse. That show was insanely popular in the early years of TV. I would imagine that at that time Gagne lost his share of matches.
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