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Who do you say was the better pitcher and I'd really like to hear the arguments from those who choose Morris as to why they have him over Schilling.



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Schilling because they both were big game pitchers but Schilling's numbers are much better, with a half run lower ERA and a better winning percentage.



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Schilling. But if it's one game, the 7th game of the WS, I want Morris.

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Schilling. See below:

A few quick numbers:

By IP
Schilling - 3261.0
Morris - 3824.0

By Wins
Schilling - 216
Morris - 254

By ERA+
Schilling - 127
Morris - 105

By K/9
Schilling - 8.60
Morris - 5.83

By K/BB
Schilling - 4.80
Morris - 1.78

By Postseason ERA
Schilling - 2.23
Morris - 3.80

By World Series ERA
Schilling - 2.06
Morris - 2.96

By Gray Ink
Schilling - 205
Morris - 193

By Black Ink
Schilling - 42
Morris - 20

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Schilling in a squash.



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This is great, as I was just thinking of this argument the other day.  For me, it's a bit of a toss up.  My gut says Morris, but as a Red Sox fan, I can't diss Schilling.  So Schilling...but barely.



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I'd take Jack Morris any day of the week, big game pitcher.



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victhestick wrote: I'd take Jack Morris any day of the week, big game pitcher.
Curt Schilling's postseason numbers blow away Morris and Schilling was better in big games than Morris. I think Schilling was better than Morris by a wide margin.



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NJRob65 wrote: Schilling. See below:

A few quick numbers:

By IP
Schilling - 3261.0
Morris - 3824.0

By Wins
Schilling - 216
Morris - 254

By ERA+
Schilling - 127
Morris - 105

By K/9
Schilling - 8.60
Morris - 5.83

By K/BB
Schilling - 4.80
Morris - 1.78

By Postseason ERA
Schilling - 2.23
Morris - 3.80

By World Series ERA
Schilling - 2.06
Morris - 2.96

By Gray Ink
Schilling - 205
Morris - 193

By Black Ink
Schilling - 42
Morris - 20


By WS rings:

 

Schilling: 3

Morris:4



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silentkiller wrote: victhestick wrote: I'd take Jack Morris any day of the week, big game pitcher.
Curt Schilling's postseason numbers blow away Morris and Schilling was better in big games than Morris. I think Schilling was better than Morris by a wide margin.


Maybe...Morris came up huge though in big games. Not saying Curt didn't. But, did Schilling ever pitch a fucking 10 shutout in a WS game? Morris has a no-no(I think Schilling does too), and Morris has about 40 more wins than Schilling. Plus, how many 20 win seasons between the 2?

BOTH are wonderful, but I've seen Morris pitch several times, and the guy's a fucking stud. Those Split finger fb and Forkball pitches really made Morris a stud.



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Huh? Morris got 1 ring with Detroit, 1 with Toronto and 1 with Minnesota.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Huh? Morris got 1 ring with Detroit, 1 with Toronto and 1 with Minnesota.

No...He got 1 w/Detroit......1 w/Minnesota, and 2 w/Toronto..they talked about it on the JT The Brick show......(I actually called and corrected him on it, and he flipped out on me, LOL). Swsore up and down he didnt win 4..that he only had "like 2" he claimed...when he came back from break, he said "that last caller was right by the way, Morris does have 4 ws rings". Then, changed the subject and went off on some tangent about something else.

 





Jack Morris

Pitcher

Born: May 16, 1955 (1955-05-16) (age 54)
St. Paul, Minnesota

Batted: Right
Threw: Right 

MLB debut

July 26, 1977 for the Detroit Tigers

Last MLB appearance

August 7, 1994 for the Cleveland Indians

Career statistics

Win-Loss record  
  254-186

Earned run average  
  3.90

Strikeouts  
  2,478

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Morris was terrible in 1993 and his postseason numbers in 1992 were terrible. And besides since when did WS rings determine who was a better pitcher? I guess that must mean Whitey Ford is one of the 5 greatest pitchers ever.



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What does gray ink and black ink mean? I've never heard of that.



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