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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 03:27 am
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carpetbeggar wrote: The experts said:

The Jets don't stand a chance against The Chargers.

FUCK YOU Marino, Cowher, Sharpe and Boomer!!!


GO J-E-T-S!!!  JETS, JETS, JETS!!!!!!!!!!!

Bring on Peyton and The Colts.

CB, congrats. That kid Greene grew up about 5 minutes away from Me. I'm glad to see Him do good.

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Principal_Raditch wrote: Well so far Tony Homo is fumbling this game away for Dallas
I told you all he sucked. He cant win the big game....he's crappy. I'd take Matthew Stafford over this dude anyday. I dont give a fuck if he's one of the "top 5 qb's in the league"? that might be true...but he cant win the big one, or get his team there. Aaron Rodgers had a better year than Homo did, and he'd be ranked MUCH higher IMO, than your man HOMO. Plus, Rodgers doesn't have a great team, like the Cowboys did? No way does he have the wr's/RB/s they do in Dallas.

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stingmark wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: Well so far Tony Homo is fumbling this game away for Dallas
I told you all he sucked. He cant win the big game....he's crappy. I'd take Matthew Stafford over this dude anyday. I dont give a fuck if he's one of the "top 5 qb's in the league"? that might be true...but he cant win the big one, or get his team there. Aaron Rodgers had a better year than Homo did, and he'd be ranked MUCH higher IMO, than your man HOMO. Plus, Rodgers doesn't have a great team, like the Cowboys did? No way does he have the wr's/RB/s they do in Dallas.


Stingy, he can't be one of the top 5 QBs in the league and suck at the same time. Do you even read what you type before you post one of these rants?

You have such an incredible hate on for so many athletes, in so many different sports, it makes reading your judgment of them useless. Is it a jealousy thing? Do you hate because they get huge amounts of money, are famous and adored by their fans, date the finest women?

**(that's probably it, isn't it...you have a mental picture of Tony Romo donkey-punching Jessica Simpson and you hate him for doing it instead of you, right?)

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brodiescomics wrote:
tofu_chipmunk wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: brodiescomics wrote:
Wow. That was not very sportsman-like.


What did I miss?

Very late Favre-to-Shiancoe TD pass to make the score 34-3, I would guess.

It was 4th and 3 from inside the 20 with less than 2 minutes to go, up by 24 points and they go for it instead of kicking the FG.


Oh that. Big fucking deal. I thought I missed something after the game.



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khawk wrote: stingmark wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote: Well so far Tony Homo is fumbling this game away for Dallas
I told you all he sucked. He cant win the big game....he's crappy. I'd take Matthew Stafford over this dude anyday. I dont give a fuck if he's one of the "top 5 qb's in the league"? that might be true...but he cant win the big one, or get his team there. Aaron Rodgers had a better year than Homo did, and he'd be ranked MUCH higher IMO, than your man HOMO. Plus, Rodgers doesn't have a great team, like the Cowboys did? No way does he have the wr's/RB/s they do in Dallas.


Stingy, he can't be one of the top 5 QBs in the league and suck at the same time. Do you even read what you type before you post one of these rants?

You have such an incredible hate on for so many athletes, in so many different sports, it makes reading your judgment of them useless. Is it a jealousy thing? Do you hate because they get huge amounts of money, are famous and adored by their fans, date the finest women?

**(that's probably it, isn't it...you have a mental picture of Tony Romo donkey-punching Jessica Simpson and you hate him for doing it instead of you, right?)

**Sigh** from the Sunshine State....


So...what's your point? I was simply giving Romo the benefit of the doubt as a supposed "top 5 qb". I dont think he is...but thats my opinion. I actually dislike alot of folks who people put on pedestals.....yes,  I'm sure they're great, but still.

Yes, he got to DP Jessica Simpson...lucky fucker.:tongue: Plus, he's always smiling, why?

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I don't know how many analysts would peg Romo as a top-five quarterback.  From what I see, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Donovan McNabb, Kurt Warner, and probably Brett Favre are rated better than him.  At best, he would be ranked with Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer, Matt Hasselbeck, Jay Cutler, Joe Flacco, and Matt Ryan.  He gets a lot of press because he's quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys.  Mediocre-to-decent quarterbacks like Danny White, Gary Hogeboom, and Quincy Carter have gotten a lot of press because they were quarterbacks for the Dallas Cowboys.  Romo isn't horrible, and he's a legit starting quarterback in the NFL.  Are there better starting players at the position in the NFL?  Definitely.  Are there worse starting players at the position in the NFL?  Definitely.

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I don't know how many analysts would peg Romo as a top-five quarterback.  From what I see, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Donovan McNabb, Kurt Warner, and probably Brett Favre are rated better than him.  At best, he would be ranked with Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer, Matt Hasselbeck, Jay Cutler, Joe Flacco, and Matt Ryan.  He gets a lot of press because he's quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys.  Mediocre-to-decent quarterbacks like Danny White, Gary Hogeboom, and Quincy Carter have gotten a lot of press because they were quarterbacks for the Dallas Cowboys.  Romo isn't horrible, and he's a legit starting quarterback in the NFL.  Are there better starting players at the position in the NFL?  Definitely.  Are there worse starting players at the position in the NFL?  Definitely.

Good points on Romo.
He's in the top 10 for 2010, IMO

1. Peyton
2. Brees
3. Warner
4. Favre
5 Rivers
6. Rogers
7. McNabb
8. Eli
9. Ben
10. Romo

Alot of guys, like Carson Palmer and Matt Hasselback, are getting by on reputation only. I never thought I'd rank Warner that high, but if I had to put my life on the line and have one of these QB's save it, that's how I'd draft 'em for this year at least.



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HBF, can I assume you left Brady off by mistake?



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HBF wrote:
Alot of guys, like Carson Palmer and Matt Hasselback, are getting by on reputation only. I never thought I'd rank Warner that high, but if I had to put my life on the line and have one of these QB's save it, that's how I'd draft 'em for this year at least.

That 5 TD, 400+ yd game he had a few weeks ago, and the fact that he's taken 2 different teams to a SB, is proof the guy can fucking play. Neither ST Louis, nor AZ would be dick right now if it weren't for Warner. Vice versa Im sure...but still, the guy can fucking play.



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stingmark wrote: HBF wrote:
Alot of guys, like Carson Palmer and Matt Hasselback, are getting by on reputation only. I never thought I'd rank Warner that high, but if I had to put my life on the line and have one of these QB's save it, that's how I'd draft 'em for this year at least.

That 5 TD, 400+ yd game he had a few weeks ago, and the fact that he's taken 2 different teams to a SB, is proof the guy can fucking play. Neither ST Louis, nor AZ would be dick right now if it weren't for Warner. Vice versa Im sure...but still, the guy can fucking play.

Warner had a bunch of help in St. Louis from this guy named Marshall Faulk. Maybe you've heard of him.



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clawmaster wrote: stingmark wrote: HBF wrote:
Alot of guys, like Carson Palmer and Matt Hasselback, are getting by on reputation only. I never thought I'd rank Warner that high, but if I had to put my life on the line and have one of these QB's save it, that's how I'd draft 'em for this year at least.

That 5 TD, 400+ yd game he had a few weeks ago, and the fact that he's taken 2 different teams to a SB, is proof the guy can fucking play. Neither ST Louis, nor AZ would be dick right now if it weren't for Warner. Vice versa Im sure...but still, the guy can fucking play.

Warner had a bunch of help in St. Louis from this guy named Marshall Faulk. Maybe you've heard of him.

Yeah, cuz Faulk ran the offense? Faulk won them that SB? Doubtful.  Faulk was a big part of that offense in St Slouis, but, Faulk was there BEFORE Warner? and what did they do then? Give Warner the credit he's due...he's a damn good qb, and  is better than over half of the qb's in the league today, even @ 40.



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stingmark wrote: clawmaster wrote: stingmark wrote: HBF wrote:
Alot of guys, like Carson Palmer and Matt Hasselback, are getting by on reputation only. I never thought I'd rank Warner that high, but if I had to put my life on the line and have one of these QB's save it, that's how I'd draft 'em for this year at least.

That 5 TD, 400+ yd game he had a few weeks ago, and the fact that he's taken 2 different teams to a SB, is proof the guy can fucking play. Neither ST Louis, nor AZ would be dick right now if it weren't for Warner. Vice versa Im sure...but still, the guy can fucking play.

Warner had a bunch of help in St. Louis from this guy named Marshall Faulk. Maybe you've heard of him.

Yeah, cuz Faulk ran the offense? Faulk won them that SB? Doubtful.  Faulk was a big part of that offense in St Slouis, but, Faulk was there BEFORE Warner? and what did they do then? Give Warner the credit he's due...he's a damn good qb, and  is better than over half of the qb's in the league today, even @ 40.

I think Faulk came the same yr as Warner did, so that point is incorrect. and Warner started to tail off as Faulk started slowing down just saying in STL.

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krazykid18 wrote: stingmark wrote: clawmaster wrote: stingmark wrote: HBF wrote:
Alot of guys, like Carson Palmer and Matt Hasselback, are getting by on reputation only. I never thought I'd rank Warner that high, but if I had to put my life on the line and have one of these QB's save it, that's how I'd draft 'em for this year at least.

That 5 TD, 400+ yd game he had a few weeks ago, and the fact that he's taken 2 different teams to a SB, is proof the guy can fucking play. Neither ST Louis, nor AZ would be dick right now if it weren't for Warner. Vice versa Im sure...but still, the guy can fucking play.

Warner had a bunch of help in St. Louis from this guy named Marshall Faulk. Maybe you've heard of him.

Yeah, cuz Faulk ran the offense? Faulk won them that SB? Doubtful.  Faulk was a big part of that offense in St Slouis, but, Faulk was there BEFORE Warner? and what did they do then? Give Warner the credit he's due...he's a damn good qb, and  is better than over half of the qb's in the league today, even @ 40.

I think Faulk came the same yr as Warner did, so that point is incorrect. and Warner started to tail off as Faulk started slowing down just saying in STL.

WOW, a good point from KK18. Warner & Faulk contributed hand and hand to each others success.



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krazykid18 wrote: I think Faulk came the same yr as Warner did, so that point is incorrect. and Warner started to tail off as Faulk started slowing down just saying in STL.

No, Faulk came in in '94 w/the Colts, where he did ok...then got traded to the Rams in '99. C'mon man...stp the Warner hate. Im not a Warner  bandwagin jumper, he's been good for a very long time. This guy was stocking shevles @ one time in his career. Then he's a starting qb, and leads 3 different teams to a SB , winning one. I dont know too many guys that have done that? Did you see what he did in that 1st rd game? not too many 40yr old qbs can do that.

 

Plus, from 2002-2006, Faulks production actually went DOWN, while Warner's has stayed up. Maybe not in NY? but what a resurgence in AZ?

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stingmark wrote: krazykid18 wrote: I think Faulk came the same yr as Warner did, so that point is incorrect. and Warner started to tail off as Faulk started slowing down just saying in STL.

No, Faulk came in in '94 w/the Colts, where he did ok...then got traded to the Rams in '99. C'mon man...stp the Warner hate. Im not a Warner  bandwagin jumper, he's been good for a very long time. This guy was stocking shevles @ one time in his career. Then he's a starting qb, and leads 3 different teams to a SB , winning one. I dont know too many guys that have done that? Did you see what he did in that 1st rd game? not too many 40yr old qbs can do that.

 

Plus, from 2002-2006, Faulks production actually went DOWN, while Warner's has stayed up. Maybe not in NY? but what a resurgence in AZ?

For the record, Faulk was traded to the Rams after the 1998 season and became the starter in 1999. While technically signed by the Rams in 1998, Warner played in the NFL Europe league that year and became the backup during the 1999 season pre-season. The rest is history. Trent Green goes down in the pre-season an Faulk, Warner and the Rams go on to win the SB.



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