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C.C. Milani wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote:
As a Chiefs fan, I'd kill to be in Philly's boat of seemingly making the playoffs or being the hunt every year. I'd be happy with McNabb and Reid.

I just don't get it. Why make radical changes to an 11-5 team?

Unless they know something that we don't, like Kevin Kolb is ready to become a star.

They haven't been 11-5 in a few years, barely making the playoffs the last Two. The Fans in Philly demand a Super Bowl,  not just to make the playoffs and most people around here think that it isn't going to happen with McNabb ( who I think gets a very bad rap) as QB. Kolb isn't a world beater, by no means, but the Offense is very young and They want the team to grow up together. This year's draft is suppose to be the deepest in 15-20 years, and the Eagles already have 4 picks in the First 3 Rounds. If They can get a 2nd or even a 1st for McNabb, They can do some damage. They also hired former Ravens draft Guru Phil Savage to run the draft for Them. The Eagles are going to be very busy at this year's draft.



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They were 11-5 last year, bud :)

I understand that the goal is the Super Bowl, but I can't help but think they have a better shot in 2010 with McNabb over Kolb.

And for the record I liked Kolb pretty much more than anyone the last time I saw him. I was saying before the 2007 Draft that Miami should take him with the #9 pick overall. :shock:

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C.C. Milani wrote: I hate to tell you this Bud, but 11-5 is a lot more fun than 6-10. Giving up McNabb for a 2nd isn't going to help your d-line immediately, if at all.

In this case sports mirrors real life, where the worst decisions are born out of frustration.

They won't go 6-10 though. They have plenty of offensive weapons. They won't even need Kolb to be "great" in all honesty.

He (McNabb) has a 6 million dollar roster bonus coming May 5th. It will be interested to see if they swallow that.

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The past decade has a been a golden age for Philly. It's just a bit unfortunate that the Pats rose at the same time and were better in the SB, but Philly's probably had the most consistently good team in the NFC since 2000. I don't see why the desire to dismantle that.



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Kid_Naitch wrote: The past decade has a been a golden age for Philly. It's just a bit unfortunate that the Pats rose at the same time and were better in the SB, but Philly's probably had the most consistently good team in the NFC since 2000. I don't see why the desire to dismantle that.
Are you a Cubs fan?

Just askin' ;)

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beejmi wrote:
He (McNabb) has a 6 million dollar roster bonus coming May 5th. It will be interested to see if they swallow that.


It seems like they're definitely dealing him before the draft, and the team he's traded to will either pick up the bonus or sign him to an extension.

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beejmi wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: The past decade has a been a golden age for Philly. It's just a bit unfortunate that the Pats rose at the same time and were better in the SB, but Philly's probably had the most consistently good team in the NFC since 2000. I don't see why the desire to dismantle that.
Are you a Cubs fan?

Just askin' ;)

I'll try to contain this rant. :cool:


I watched probably the best Cubs teams of my lifetime (well, at least since I started caring about sports in 1988 or so at age 6) win exactly zero games in the playoffs and get swept twice. Still, they won back-to-back Central titles. Then they "tweaked" the club, added Milton Bradley, got rid of DeRosa, et al., and didn't make the playoffs last year.

I'd be happy with making the playoffs and losing right away than tweaking the team and getting worse. Of course, that all depends on whether or not you think the changes are for the better. In the case of the Cubs after the 08 season, I didn't think they were and I was proved right. I think the same thing applies for the Eagles - they shouldn't get rid of either McNabb or Reid, both of who have been integral to the team's success the past decade.

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The 1984 Cubs team had the best chance to win the World Series. The 1989 team was one of the luckiest teams I've ever seen. The teams that made the playoffs from this decade weren't nearly as good as that 1984 team.



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clawmaster wrote: The 1984 Cubs team had the best chance to win the World Series. The 1989 team was one of the luckiest teams I've ever seen. The teams that made the playoffs from this decade weren't nearly as good as that 1984 team.

Yeah, though I was 2 in 1984, so I tried to couch "lifetime" as "since I've been sports-cognizant."



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C.C. Milani wrote: They were 11-5 last year, bud :)

I understand that the goal is the Super Bowl, but I can't help but think they have a better shot in 2010 with McNabb over Kolb.

And for the record I liked Kolb pretty much more than anyone the last time I saw him. I was saying before the 2007 Draft that Miami should take him with the #9 pick overall. :shock:

It didn't feel like an 11-5 season. My bad.



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Kid_Naitch wrote: beejmi wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: The past decade has a been a golden age for Philly. It's just a bit unfortunate that the Pats rose at the same time and were better in the SB, but Philly's probably had the most consistently good team in the NFC since 2000. I don't see why the desire to dismantle that.
Are you a Cubs fan?

Just askin' ;)

I'll try to contain this rant. :cool:


I watched probably the best Cubs teams of my lifetime (well, at least since I started caring about sports in 1988 or so at age 6) win exactly zero games in the playoffs and get swept twice. Still, they won back-to-back Central titles. Then they "tweaked" the club, added Milton Bradley, got rid of DeRosa, et al., and didn't make the playoffs last year.

I'd be happy with making the playoffs and losing right away than tweaking the team and getting worse. Of course, that all depends on whether or not you think the changes are for the better. In the case of the Cubs after the 08 season, I didn't think they were and I was proved right. I think the same thing applies for the Eagles - they shouldn't get rid of either McNabb or Reid, both of who have been integral to the team's success the past decade.

The big thing is that if the Eagles don't improve their Defense, They aren't gonna win Jack. Most Eagles fans are willing to take a year or Two hit, then have 10 years of great Football. That's why McNabb has to leave.



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote:
It didn't feel like an 11-5 season. My bad.

Could have been the way it ended that makes you feel that way.

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freebirdsforever2001 wrote:  god in some fans eyes in Detroit.......

They blame McNabb, and rightly so, for choking in the big games. He doesn't show up when it matters. Eagles fans want championships, not just playoff appearances.


What "big games" hasn't he stepped up in exactly? he's taken you farther any other Eagles QB in the history of the franchise. He's "stepped up" in alot of those games...other players have not. I agree with another poster...Reid's a major problem for them. And they're dead on: Mcnabb leaves...goodbye to your Eagles being any sort of good for the next 3-5 years, possibly longer.

Keep this in mind: If Kolb were any good, he'd have been the starter already, and not stuck behind Vick.



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Kid_Naitch wrote: As a Chiefs fan, I'd kill to be in Philly's boat of seemingly making the playoffs or being the hunt every year. I'd be happy with McNabb and Reid.
That was my point as well. Fuck! Lions fans would fucking wash Mcnabb's car and mow his lawn on a daily basis, if he did that shit for us?



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C.C. Milani wrote: I hate to tell you this Bud, but 11-5 is a lot more fun than 6-10. Giving up McNabb for a 2nd isn't going to help your d-line immediately, if at all.

In this case sports mirrors real life, where the worst decisions are born out of frustration.


Very good point.

I'll also say....they've needed a RELIABLE rb and wr's for years now....and yet, no matter what happens, it's always McNabb's fault somehow? I found that fascinating. Westbrook is garbage, and has been for some time. Which is why, so many teams have passed on him, and he's still a FA(I believe). Plus, I cant name one of their WR's, can you?

 

No running game. no wr's,no defense....yep, it's McNabbs fault.



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