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DeSean Jackson the young wide receiver is really good. Celek is their tight end. He's decent. Not sold on the replacement for Westbrook. LeSean McCoy from Pitt.

But if Fat Andy truly believes in Kolb, then trade McNabb. I don't believe in Kolb but obviously Fat Andy does.



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clawmaster wrote: DeSean Jackson the young wide receiver is really good. Celek is their tight end. He's decent. Not sold on the replacement for Westbrook. LeSean McCoy from Pitt.

But if Fat Andy truly believes in Kolb, then trade McNabb. I don't believe in Kolb but obviously Fat Andy does.

You're right...Jackson's VG.....until they fix their running game...nothing else will matter.



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That's the other part of the equation also. Name an Eagle's quarterback who has not been successful under Reid. Andy adjusts his gameplan when he hasn't had McNabb around. Guys like Jeff Garcia and AJ Feeley have had success in the "system" even though it clearly isn't the same scheme they run with McNabb taking snaps. So why do you need McNabb so much when a "B" quarterback will get the same results?

I don't agree with all this either but I get the thought process.

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beejmi wrote: That's the other part of the equation also. Name an Eagle's quarterback who has not been successful under Reid. Andy adjusts his gameplan when he hasn't had McNabb around. Guys like Jeff Garcia and AJ Feeley have had success in the "system" even though it clearly isn't the same scheme they run with McNabb taking snaps. So why do you need McNabb so much when a "B" quarterback will get the same results?

I don't agree with all this either but I get the thought process.


Garcia was good wherever he went though...he was good in Detroit,  Frisco, Oakland, and TB. Feeley was/is garbage. If they thought that much of him, they wouldve kept him around longer.

If a "B" qb can get it done more than McNabb, they wouldve launched Donovan a few years back?

just sayin.

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beejmi wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote:
It didn't feel like an 11-5 season. My bad.

Could have been the way it ended that makes you feel that way.

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stingmark wrote:

Garcia was good wherever he went though...he was good in Detroit,  Frisco, Oakland, and TB. Feeley was/is garbage. If they thought that much of him, they wouldve kept him around longer.

If a "B" qb can get it done more than McNabb, they wouldve launched Donovan a few years back?

just sayin.


Garcia and Feeley didn't do anything after Philly.  And that's part of the equation also. If Garcia and Feeley can succeed so can Kolb. Or so the thought process.

I don't think they ever considered moving McNabb before now. Even a few years back he had the "injury prone" tag on him which and they would have got less than desired for him.

I had a dream last night that they traded him (in the division) to the Redskins. There's no way - right? Of course they did something with Dallas on draft day a couple years back and acted like they were just so much smarter than the Cowboys.

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stingmark wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote:  god in some fans eyes in Detroit.......

They blame McNabb, and rightly so, for choking in the big games. He doesn't show up when it matters. Eagles fans want championships, not just playoff appearances.


What "big games" hasn't he stepped up in exactly? he's taken you farther any other Eagles QB in the history of the franchise. He's "stepped up" in alot of those games...other players have not. I agree with another poster...Reid's a major problem for them. And they're dead on: Mcnabb leaves...goodbye to your Eagles being any sort of good for the next 3-5 years, possibly longer.

Keep this in mind: If Kolb were any good, he'd have been the starter already, and not stuck behind Vick.

Psst.... Kolb is the # 2 QB.  McNabb has been in 5 NFC championship games and have won 1. He has played shall I'll say" not so good" in these games, and I'm saying this as a McNabb fan.  When the pressure mounts, He hasn't come up big at all. His Interception to TD rate goes way up as well.



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stingmark wrote: C.C. Milani wrote: I hate to tell you this Bud, but 11-5 is a lot more fun than 6-10. Giving up McNabb for a 2nd isn't going to help your d-line immediately, if at all.

In this case sports mirrors real life, where the worst decisions are born out of frustration.


Very good point.

I'll also say....they've needed a RELIABLE rb and wr's for years now....and yet, no matter what happens, it's always McNabb's fault somehow? I found that fascinating. Westbrook is garbage, and has been for some time. Which is why, so many teams have passed on him, and he's still a FA(I believe). Plus, I cant name one of their WR's, can you?

 

No running game. no wr's,no defense....yep, it's McNabbs fault.

Do You even watch Football? Westbrook CARRIED that team for several years, that's why He's " garbage" now.He was the main threat on that team not McNabb. He got so beat up from all of the punishment that He's taken over the years, He became injury prone. Sometimes I wonder if You are KK18 the Second.



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stingmark wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: As a Chiefs fan, I'd kill to be in Philly's boat of seemingly making the playoffs or being the hunt every year. I'd be happy with McNabb and Reid.
That was my point as well. Fuck! Lions fans would fucking wash Mcnabb's car and mow his lawn on a daily basis, if he did that shit for us?

No offense, but maybe that's why the Lions, nor Chiefs have won anything in the past 30 years. You Guys SETTLE for 11-5, Philly fans don't. They want a championship, not settle for Second best.



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clawmaster wrote: DeSean Jackson the young wide receiver is really good. Celek is their tight end. He's decent. Not sold on the replacement for Westbrook. LeSean McCoy from Pitt.

But if Fat Andy truly believes in Kolb, then trade McNabb. I don't believe in Kolb but obviously Fat Andy does.

Claw, Fat Andy is stuborn. Jackson is a gamebreaker, Celek will be a Pro Bowler this year, McCoy is going to be better with another season underneath Him, and Maclin is going to be a stud. Eagle fans are willing to take a step or Two back this and next year, to be better for the next 10.



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stingmark wrote: clawmaster wrote: DeSean Jackson the young wide receiver is really good. Celek is their tight end. He's decent. Not sold on the replacement for Westbrook. LeSean McCoy from Pitt.

But if Fat Andy truly believes in Kolb, then trade McNabb. I don't believe in Kolb but obviously Fat Andy does.

You're right...Jackson's VG.....until they fix their running game...nothing else will matter.

Their Running game is fine. The combination of McCoy, Weaver & Mike Bell will do just fine.



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brodiescomics wrote: beejmi wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote:
It didn't feel like an 11-5 season. My bad.

Could have been the way it ended that makes you feel that way.

You're Welcome. :cool:

The Cowgirls made the Eagles their bitch this year. Enjoy it because it doesn't happen often anymore.:tongue:



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: stingmark wrote: C.C. Milani wrote: I hate to tell you this Bud, but 11-5 is a lot more fun than 6-10. Giving up McNabb for a 2nd isn't going to help your d-line immediately, if at all.

In this case sports mirrors real life, where the worst decisions are born out of frustration.


Very good point.

I'll also say....they've needed a RELIABLE rb and wr's for years now....and yet, no matter what happens, it's always McNabb's fault somehow? I found that fascinating. Westbrook is garbage, and has been for some time. Which is why, so many teams have passed on him, and he's still a FA(I believe). Plus, I cant name one of their WR's, can you?

 

No running game. no wr's,no defense....yep, it's McNabbs fault.

Do You even watch Football? Westbrook CARRIED that team for several years, that's why He's " garbage" now.He was the main threat on that team not McNabb. He got so beat up from all of the punishment that He's taken over the years, He became injury prone. Sometimes I wonder if You are KK18 the Second.

Yeah, I have to agree here and wonder if you even watch any other team besides those shitty Lions of yours that you think someone like Westbrook is garbage?

You couldn't be any more wrong.  Was he elite?  No.  Was he a lot better than average?  Hell yes he was.

But because they depended on the running game so much because of his ability to deliver, he took a shit load of punishment and has had numerous concussions.

Seriously dude, educate yourself at least a little bit before spouting off the ridiculous shit you're posting...

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Westbrook was productive as recently as the 2008 season (when healthy, natch), but the wear and tear has taken its toll.

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You Philly fans are going to wish for the glory days of Reid and McNabb when this is all said and done. Trust me. Most fans wish they had teams that are perennial playoff contenders.

I used to get frustrated with Flip Saunders. He was a shitty coach, but he could the Pistons in position to make a run every year. He was a horrible play off coach, but his teams were there with a chance. I wanted him gone more than anyone.

Guess what? When they kicked his ass out the door there wasn't anyone better to replace him. Now the Pistons are in the shitter and are only going to get worse. I'd rather be a team with a chance than a team looking at 3-5 years worth of rebuilding.

As a Lions and Bucs fan you can bet your sweet ass I would have loved to have had McNabb. His worst seasons are better than any QB the Lions have had in my lifetime.

Kolb hasn't shown much in his young career and to just assume he's a can't miss prospect is like counting your chickens before they've hatched.

Stinger can help me out on this list, but here are some projected future stars at the QB position who couldn't miss.

Chuck Long
Rodney Peete
Andre Ware
Scott Mitchell
Joey Harrington

Here are a couple that had bright futures after limited exposure as Lions QB's only to turn out as career back ups.
Charlie Batch
Mike McMahon

I'm not sure why you guys are so pissed about being successful for so long. I know the S Bowl is the goal, and it feels like that window is closing, but it could be a lot worse.


Metaphorically speaking, Reid and McNabb are like a super hot girl friend who goes anal and swallows cum. You guys are pissed that she refuses to do ATM, so you are going to kick her to the curb making the foolish assumption that the next girl you find will do ATM. The sad facts are most girls won't go anal or swallow.

Just something to think about.



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