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stingmark wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: As a Chiefs fan, I'd kill to be in Philly's boat of seemingly making the playoffs or being the hunt every year. I'd be happy with McNabb and Reid.
That was my point as well. Fuck! Lions fans would fucking wash Mcnabb's car and mow his lawn on a daily basis, if he did that shit for us?

No offense, but maybe that's why the Lions, nor Chiefs have won anything in the past 30 years. You Guys SETTLE for 11-5, Philly fans don't. They want a championship, not settle for Second best.


I think the Lions, Eagles and Chiefs are tied in Super Bowl wins in the last 30 years.



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Metaphorically speaking, Reid and McNabb are like a super hot girl friend who goes anal and swallows cum. You guys are pissed that she refuses to do ATM, so you are going to kick her to the curb making the foolish assumption that the next girl you find will do ATM. The sad facts are most girls won't go anal or swallow.

This is the greatest analogy of all time.

As far as the rest of the post goes, I only disagree with one part: when the Lions drafted both Harrington and Ware, I thought (and many agreed) that those players would bust. Rodney Peete was a 5th rounder IIRC so it's not like he arrived with huge expectations.

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stingmark wrote: beejmi wrote: That's the other part of the equation also. Name an Eagle's quarterback who has not been successful under Reid. Andy adjusts his gameplan when he hasn't had McNabb around. Guys like Jeff Garcia and AJ Feeley have had success in the "system" even though it clearly isn't the same scheme they run with McNabb taking snaps. So why do you need McNabb so much when a "B" quarterback will get the same results?

I don't agree with all this either but I get the thought process.


Garcia was good wherever he went though...he was good in Detroit,  Frisco, Oakland, and TB. Feeley was/is garbage. If they thought that much of him, they wouldve kept him around longer.

If a "B" qb can get it done more than McNabb, they wouldve launched Donovan a few years back?

just sayin.

Garcia was very good with the Niners. He stunk in Cleveland and Detriot. He was good for the Eagles and decent for the Bucs. He never played for the Raiders. (He left the team during training camp). I am not too familiar with relationship  between Andy Reid and the Eagles so I don't know whats going on over there. Garcia seems to be fine when he is surrounded with talent. I am sure McNabb is the same way. The Eagles were just outplayed, out coached, out prepared over the past decade in the playoffs. I would have to point the finger at Reid. Getting rid of McNabb seems to be the easiest way to fix the problem due to Salary and age. Giving him away for a second rounder is going to bite the Eagles in the ass. The next one or two seasons are going to be rough on them. I am not sold on Kolb or Vick(yet). With no running the Eagles are gonna have to rely on their QB's arm and I don't see it. (They should be trying to move up in the draft and pick CJ Spiller). Eagles fans are hoping for the second coming of Aaron Rodgers but by that time Kolb's confidence may be shot.



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C.C. Milani wrote:
The Ultimate Sin wrote:
Metaphorically speaking, Reid and McNabb are like a super hot girl friend who goes anal and swallows cum. You guys are pissed that she refuses to do ATM, so you are going to kick her to the curb making the foolish assumption that the next girl you find will do ATM. The sad facts are most girls won't go anal or swallow.

This is the greatest analogy of all time.

As far as the rest of the post goes, I only disagree with one part: when the Lions drafted both Harrington and Ware, I thought (and many agreed) that those players would bust. Rodney Peete was a 5th rounder IIRC so it's not like he arrived with huge expectations.


Seconded. Great analogy! I never understood what the issue was with McNabb and Philly, but then again, I'm a Giants fan. He always tends to beat us (and we beat Dallas, Dallas beats Philly, we all beat Washington!).



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Eagles trade CB Sheldon Brown & LB Chris Gocong to Cleveland for LB Alex Hall , 4th & 5th Round pick. Bad trade, should've never traded Brown. and if They did, They should've got at least a 2nd for Him. They are going young, have ALOT of picks ( 10), Four in the top 87 picks. McNabb is good as gone.



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote:
stingmark wrote: Kid_Naitch wrote: As a Chiefs fan, I'd kill to be in Philly's boat of seemingly making the playoffs or being the hunt every year. I'd be happy with McNabb and Reid.
That was my point as well. Fuck! Lions fans would fucking wash Mcnabb's car and mow his lawn on a daily basis, if he did that shit for us?

No offense, but maybe that's why the Lions, nor Chiefs have won anything in the past 30 years. You Guys SETTLE for 11-5, Philly fans don't. They want a championship, not settle for Second best.


I think the Lions, Eagles and Chiefs are tied in Super Bowl wins in the last 30 years.

Correct Sin, but the Lions haven't been to a Championship game, and the Chiefs have been only to One Championship game in 30 years. The Eagles at least, have been there, with Two Super Bowl appearances & Six NFC Championship games. That's why Philly fans won't settle for Second best, because They know this Team could win. The Chiefs and Lions Fans are just happy to be there.



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That was sort of my point. Philly fans are willing to give up the two constants in that successful run, when the rest of the league is struggling to find one. Refer back to my Flip Saunders reference. Chauncey Billups was the same as McNabb in a way. Great player, but he kept coming up short, and we wanted a title, so they both were replaced (Chauncey and Flip). Check the Pistons standings the last two years, and see how it ended up.



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I think why the tide has turned in terms of "let's make a move" is because of how the season ended. The door was slammed in their face. Not good enough. Not good enough to beat Dallas. Not good enough to beat New Orleans. Not good enough to beat Minnesota. At best 4th best in the NFC. At best.

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beejmi wrote: I think why the tide has turned in terms of "let's make a move" is because of how the season ended. The door was slammed in their face. Not good enough. Not good enough to beat Dallas. Not good enough to beat New Orleans. Not good enough to beat Minnesota. At best 4th best in the NFC. At best.

That's why it's time to make a change.



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: beejmi wrote: I think why the tide has turned in terms of "let's make a move" is because of how the season ended. The door was slammed in their face. Not good enough. Not good enough to beat Dallas. Not good enough to beat New Orleans. Not good enough to beat Minnesota. At best 4th best in the NFC. At best.

That's why it's time to make a change.

Maybe it's the Head Coach that needs to be changed.



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FWIW,

Donovan is a Chicago guy. I like him. I wish we (The Bears) had him all these years.



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clawmaster wrote: freebirdsforever2001 wrote: beejmi wrote: I think why the tide has turned in terms of "let's make a move" is because of how the season ended. The door was slammed in their face. Not good enough. Not good enough to beat Dallas. Not good enough to beat New Orleans. Not good enough to beat Minnesota. At best 4th best in the NFC. At best.

That's why it's time to make a change.

Maybe it's the Head Coach that needs to be changed.

Reid will never be fired. Alot of people think that Reid is the main problem ( including Myself). Lurie, Banner & Reid might as well be a Law firm.



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C.C. Milani wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote:
Metaphorically speaking, Reid and McNabb are like a super hot girl friend who goes anal and swallows cum. You guys are pissed that she refuses to do ATM, so you are going to kick her to the curb making the foolish assumption that the next girl you find will do ATM. The sad facts are most girls won't go anal or swallow.

This is the greatest analogy of all time.

As far as the rest of the post goes, I only disagree with one part: when the Lions drafted both Harrington and Ware, I thought (and many agreed) that those players would bust. Rodney Peete was a 5th rounder IIRC so it's not like he arrived with huge expectations.



Dont mention the fact that Harrington was surrrounded by GARBAGE his entire Detroit career? They changed offensive schemes on him EVERY YEAR HE WAS THERE. No O line/no rbs/no WR's...yep, anyone could be a bust in that situation.

Ware was a good call...Fontes ruined him though, IMO.


Correct Sin, but the Lions haven't been to a Championship game, and the Chiefs have been only to One Championship game in 30 years. The Eagles at least, have been there, with Two Super Bowl appearances & Six NFC Championship games. That's why Philly fans won't settle for Second best, because They know this Team could win. The Chiefs and Lions Fans are just happy to be there.

If by "Championships" you mean SB's? then, no, Detroit's never been to one. They did go to the NFC championship in '91, and they've won 3 world titles, but no sb's.

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stingmark wrote: C.C. Milani wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote:
Metaphorically speaking, Reid and McNabb are like a super hot girl friend who goes anal and swallows cum. You guys are pissed that she refuses to do ATM, so you are going to kick her to the curb making the foolish assumption that the next girl you find will do ATM. The sad facts are most girls won't go anal or swallow.

This is the greatest analogy of all time.

As far as the rest of the post goes, I only disagree with one part: when the Lions drafted both Harrington and Ware, I thought (and many agreed) that those players would bust. Rodney Peete was a 5th rounder IIRC so it's not like he arrived with huge expectations.



Dont mention the fact that Harrington was surrrounded by GARBAGE his entire Detroit career? They changed offensive schemes on him EVERY YEAR HE WAS THERE. No O line/no rbs/no WR's...yep, anyone could be a bust in that situation.

Ware was a good call...Fontes ruined him though, IMO.


Correct Sin, but the Lions haven't been to a Championship game, and the Chiefs have been only to One Championship game in 30 years. The Eagles at least, have been there, with Two Super Bowl appearances & Six NFC Championship games. That's why Philly fans won't settle for Second best, because They know this Team could win. The Chiefs and Lions Fans are just happy to be there.

If by "Championships" you mean SB's? then, no, Detroit's never been to one. They did go to the NFC championship in '91, and they've won 3 world titles, but no sb's.

I know that the Lions have won Championships , but the statement was the last 30 Years. I did forget about the Lions 91 NFC Championship appearance. My apologies.



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[user=264]Dont mention the fact that Harrington was surrrounded by GARBAGE his entire Detroit career? They changed offensive schemes on him EVERY YEAR HE WAS THERE. No O line/no rbs/no WR's...yep, anyone could be a bust in that situation.

Ware was a good call...Fontes ruined him though, IMO.


Harrington didn't do well anywhere else. I didn't even think he was that good at Oregon. I never, ever saw him as a first rounder.

As far as Ware goes, I read an SI article on him before that draft, and the alarms went off. I'm not someone that thinks every athlete is spoiled and coddled, but Ware certainly seemed like he was.

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