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 Posted: Tue Jan 11th, 2011 10:45 pm
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stingmark wrote: BayouBoogie wrote: stingmark wrote: BayouBoogie wrote: Quattro wrote: http://lsu.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1175149

Miles is staying at LSU supposedly

LOL Michigan doesn't want him.  He was reportedly telling people yesterday that he would take the job if it was offered to him.  Looks to me like he wants that job so bad, but they know him too well to offer it to him.

Yeah, I read in a few places, LSU didnt want him back last year, and tried getting rid of him, and they were hoping he'd go to Mich.......we'll see what happens. I've heard several times, that there's a faction of LSU fans/alum/boosters that do not like Les, and have wanted him gone for awhile now? wait till he doesnt win 10-11 games...we'll see how much he "loves it" there?


The last two seasons were 7 and 8 win seasons with some embarrassing losses in there. Those were the 1st two years with only "his" guys and no Saban guys (and quite significantly, they were without his prize recruit, Ryan Perriloux, who was supposed to be the centerpiece of those teams, and who wanted even less to do with Saban than Saban wanted with him).  

It's not just about talent either, as the Saban guys are the types that like strict structure and are usually more "hard edged". Saban demanded a different approach and work ethic. From what I know, most of those guys that Saban recruited couldn't stand Miles' loosey-goosey, often goofy demeanor, just as the Miles guys could not put up with Saban's hard ass.  As Quattro pointed out, they are basically polar opposites in every way imaginable, right down to the type of player that is willing to play for them.

This year's record was a shock to every LSU fan I know, which are a plenty. Even with the great record, they played like crap against several inferior opponents and won despite some ridiculous playing, play-calling, and decision making.

I'd guess that a substantial majority of LSU fans don't like Miles, though he's often hard to place because his record is so good. Miles "loves it" here because:

A) he's in the spotlight, which he clearly loves,

B) he has a ludicrous contract that he suckered LSU out of with his Michigan BS while "leading" the most talented team LSU has ever had to a 2 loss (in 2 of the sloppiest, ugliest triple over-time performances ever against unranked opponents) BCS championship season,

C) Even when he has lackluster recruiting seasons, which he's had a couple of, the talent pool he's drawing from is still among the tops in the country so he's go a competing chance to make noise each and every year,

and D) Michigan doesn't seem to want him, because he made it public that he'd go there right now if they offered it to him and now he's announcing that he's staying (again)
Yeah, read that earlier this morning about the ludicrous contract, and a few folks claimed thats why LSU was hoping Mich would take him, so they could stop paying for him. You're right...Like I said, he couldve pissed Brandon off, and they didnt want him.  bet in a year or so, he'll regret not going to Mich? I bet he'll try to complain that Mich wouldnt pay him enough or something? It'd be hilarious if they gave Hoke a nice deal, and it was more than they'dve offered Les?


But there isn't the 1st bit of evidence that they offered him anything.

And yeah, many LSU fans and boosters would love Michigan to take Miles because they'd have to pay a huge buyout.

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I've read Hoke is between $3-$5 million/yr for 5 yrs, but again, these are just rumors

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BayouBoogie wrote: mike3775 wrote: Something is fishy on Les.

Some are saying Les turned em down, and other places are saying Michigan didn't offer him the job

I believe that they never offered it to him.  I fully believe that he leaked that he would accept the job, and then got stiffed.  I also believe he and his agent worked that last courtship during the BCS title run to get Les either A) his dream job (which didn't happen), or B) a ridiculous contract that guarantees he's paid as much as any other coach in the country and with a huge buyout guarantee if they fire him (which did happen).
Rumor has it LSU's AD is working on sweetening his deal when he heard the Michigan talk started so that may be why he did it. If Les gets more money out of it mission accomplished.



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And your next UM coach is Brady Hoke: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6012465



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Road Warrior Yajuta wrote: BayouBoogie wrote: mike3775 wrote: Something is fishy on Les.

Some are saying Les turned em down, and other places are saying Michigan didn't offer him the job

I believe that they never offered it to him.  I fully believe that he leaked that he would accept the job, and then got stiffed.  I also believe he and his agent worked that last courtship during the BCS title run to get Les either A) his dream job (which didn't happen), or B) a ridiculous contract that guarantees he's paid as much as any other coach in the country and with a huge buyout guarantee if they fire him (which did happen).
Rumor has it LSU's AD is working on sweetening his deal when he heard the Michigan talk started so that may be why he did it. If Les gets more money out of it mission accomplished.


That's what happened last time around, but how much more can he get? Isn't he guaranteed to make a certain number more than the next highest paid coach as it is?  He's the highest paid coach in the country and is guaranteed tens of millions if they fire him. How could they make it any sweeter?  At this point, it was simply, does he want Michigan and do they want him, because his deal at LSU is basically the sweetest any coach has ever signed, as I understand it.

EDIT:  Okay, I see that he's guaranteed to be higher than the next highest in the SEC. But still, that guarantees him to be in the upper-most level of coaches.

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BayouBoogie wrote: Road Warrior Yajuta wrote: BayouBoogie wrote: mike3775 wrote: Something is fishy on Les.

Some are saying Les turned em down, and other places are saying Michigan didn't offer him the job

I believe that they never offered it to him.  I fully believe that he leaked that he would accept the job, and then got stiffed.  I also believe he and his agent worked that last courtship during the BCS title run to get Les either A) his dream job (which didn't happen), or B) a ridiculous contract that guarantees he's paid as much as any other coach in the country and with a huge buyout guarantee if they fire him (which did happen).
Rumor has it LSU's AD is working on sweetening his deal when he heard the Michigan talk started so that may be why he did it. If Les gets more money out of it mission accomplished.


That's what happened last time around, but how much more can he get? Isn't he guaranteed to make a certain number more than the next highest paid coach as it is?  He's the highest paid coach in the country and is guaranteed tens of millions if they fire him. How could they make it any sweeter?  At this point, it was simply, does he want Michigan and do they want him, because his deal at LSU is basically the sweetest any coach has ever signed, as I understand it.

EDIT:  Okay, I see that he's guaranteed to be higher than the next highest in the SEC. But still, that guarantees him to be in the upper-most level of coaches.
Damn if he was smart, he go to Nick and say "hey man, ask for $1 million more than me next time"  lol

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The Hoke File:

47-50 in 8 seasons at Ball State and San Diego State.

Credited with turning around San Diego State, but also went 1-7 against the Big 4 of the MWC (Air Force, TCU, BYU, Utah) and was 13-12 overall. SDSU won a bowl game over Navy on its home field this season.

Previously at Ball State, they once played Michigan tough (who isn't these days). Scored 2 wins over Navy and 1 over Indiana as his key wins. So that makes 3 of his 4 biggest wins as a 1-A coach being over Navy. Hoke's Ball State teams got clobbered in their 2 biggest games, a 52-30 loss to Rutgers in an International Bowl, and a 42-17 loss to Buffalo in the '08 MAC Championship Game in a situation where the team came in undefeated. Left for San Diego State before the GMAC Bowl, where they were hammered by Tulsa (and new Pitt coach Todd Graham).

I don't see Michigan becoming a national title contender under him at all.

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Wow! Les campains for the Michigan job, doesn't get offered it and then says, "He decided to stay at LSU." Never heard that before. Do any of you fucks read my posts?

Michigan has always had questions about Miles's ability to run a clean program, and after the dirt patch Rich Rod dragged them through they are trying to distance themselves from controversy.



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The Ultimate Sin wrote: Wow! Les campains for the Michigan job, doesn't get offered it and then says, "He decided to stay at LSU." Never heard that before. Do any of you fucks read my posts?

Michigan has always had questions about Miles's ability to run a clean program, and after the dirt patch Rich Rod dragged them through they are trying to distance themselves from controversy.

Oh, I know. You called it last time and were dead on.  It's why it looked that way to me from the start this time too. 


I'm sure the astronomical buyout figure on his contract didn't make him any more appealing, either.


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This made me chuckle

http://www.sportspickle.com/opinion/4722/les-miles-application-for-michigan-football-coach

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BayouBoogie wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Wow! Les campains for the Michigan job, doesn't get offered it and then says, "He decided to stay at LSU." Never heard that before. Do any of you fucks read my posts?

Michigan has always had questions about Miles's ability to run a clean program, and after the dirt patch Rich Rod dragged them through they are trying to distance themselves from controversy.

Oh, I know. You called it last time and were dead on.  It's why it looked that way to me from the start this time too. 


I'm sure the astronomical buyout figure on his contract didn't make him any more appealing, either.


How is LSU still playing in big bowl games, arent they on 3 yr suspension or something? thought i read that somewhere. Then, again, it's the NCAA.



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stingmark wrote: BayouBoogie wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Wow! Les campains for the Michigan job, doesn't get offered it and then says, "He decided to stay at LSU." Never heard that before. Do any of you fucks read my posts?

Michigan has always had questions about Miles's ability to run a clean program, and after the dirt patch Rich Rod dragged them through they are trying to distance themselves from controversy.

Oh, I know. You called it last time and were dead on.  It's why it looked that way to me from the start this time too. 


I'm sure the astronomical buyout figure on his contract didn't make him any more appealing, either.


How is LSU still playing in big bowl games, arent they on 3 yr suspension or something? thought i read that somewhere. Then, again, it's the NCAA.


No, LSU isn't on any suspension.  Don't know where you got that.  LSU did forfeit a couple of scholarships over a 2 or 3 year period in a self-imposed sanction, but that's it. The NCAA didn't sanction them in any way.

 

 

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BayouBoogie wrote: stingmark wrote: BayouBoogie wrote: The Ultimate Sin wrote: Wow! Les campains for the Michigan job, doesn't get offered it and then says, "He decided to stay at LSU." Never heard that before. Do any of you fucks read my posts?

Michigan has always had questions about Miles's ability to run a clean program, and after the dirt patch Rich Rod dragged them through they are trying to distance themselves from controversy.

Oh, I know. You called it last time and were dead on.  It's why it looked that way to me from the start this time too. 


I'm sure the astronomical buyout figure on his contract didn't make him any more appealing, either.


How is LSU still playing in big bowl games, arent they on 3 yr suspension or something? thought i read that somewhere. Then, again, it's the NCAA.


No, LSU isn't on any suspension.  Don't know where you got that.  LSU did forfeit a couple of scholarships over a 2 or 3 year period in a self-imposed sanction, but that's it. The NCAA didn't sanction them in any way.

 

 

Thats what it was.......my bad. By the way, nice leverage by Les to use Michigan to get himself MORE $$$ from LSU? They're saying he's about to sign a 7 yr extention.....



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stingmark wrote:By the way, nice leverage by Les to use Michigan to get himself MORE $$$ from LSU? They're saying he's about to sign a 7 yr extention.....BayouBoogie wrote: Road Warrior Yajuta wrote: BayouBoogie wrote: mike3775 wrote: Something is fishy on Les.

Some are saying Les turned em down, and other places are saying Michigan didn't offer him the job

I believe that they never offered it to him.  I fully believe that he leaked that he would accept the job, and then got stiffed.  I also believe he and his agent worked that last courtship during the BCS title run to get Les either A) his dream job (which didn't happen), or B) a ridiculous contract that guarantees he's paid as much as any other coach in the country and with a huge buyout guarantee if they fire him (which did happen).
Rumor has it LSU's AD is working on sweetening his deal when he heard the Michigan talk started so that may be why he did it. If Les gets more money out of it mission accomplished.


That's what happened last time around, but how much more can he get? Isn't he guaranteed to make a certain number more than the next highest paid coach as it is?  He's the highest paid coach in the country and is guaranteed tens of millions if they fire him. How could they make it any sweeter?  At this point, it was simply, does he want Michigan and do they want him, because his deal at LSU is basically the sweetest any coach has ever signed, as I understand it.

EDIT:  Okay, I see that he's guaranteed to be higher than the next highest in the SEC. But still, that guarantees him to be in the upper-most level of coaches.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/01/12/lsu-miles-extension.ap/index.html?eref=sihp
That's how

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