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 Posted: Fri Apr 29th, 2011 03:30 am
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The Pittsburgh Stillers select Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State

Pass rush: Though not a true outside pass-rush threat, he will pressure the quarterback no matter where he lines up. Lines up on either end, as well as at the five-technique and uses quickness off the snap and excellent length to split double-teams, get inside of linemen when man-up, or push back guards into the pocket. Agile enough to be effective on twists from the outside. Running backs and tight ends are no match against Heyward in pass protection. Tough one-on-one matchup for guards inside due to his lateral quickness, hustle and club move. Corrals and punishes quarterbacks in the backfield, closing quickly and exploding into the tackle. Inconsistent disengaging from blocks; better left tackles can stand him up and latch on with impunity. Can be pushed back with an initial punch but keeps coming to provide a strong secondary rush. Not a great threat to turn the corner from the edge. Forces tackle up the field and can spin inside to prevent scrambles or pressure quarterbacks stepping up into the pocket. Has the length to affect passing lanes when unable to reach the passer but could get his hands up more often.
 
Run defense: Strong against the run whether lining up against guards or tackles. Crashes down to close gaps. Can spin off of blocks when runners cut back against the grain. Crashes down on inside runs, using length to get into a play. Good punch to knock his man back, attacks the ball when it is in his area. Maintains edge discipline to prevent bootleg plays on his side of the field. His height can be used against him -- he fails to get low on occasion and loses leverage against stronger guards and double teams. Susceptible to cut blocks, though he is athletic enough to recover and get back into the play. Too strong for tight ends to handle one-on-one and uses leverage and hands to blow through edge blocks. Only adequate backfield awareness, will be sucked in on misdirection and lacks great change-of-direction agility.
 
Explosion: Excellent quickness off the snap, splits double teams with ease and provides a rare pop into his blocker's pads to knock him back. Will be first man off the ball when pinning his ears back on the rush. Very difficult for slower linemen to match his combination of strength and explosiveness, makes beating them look easy.
 
Strength: Flashes great upper-body and hand strength, dominating most college linemen with leverage and burst, but does not consistently overwhelm better players. Does not have exceptional muscle definition in his arms. Plays tall inside and lacks a great anchor to maintain his ground against NFL-caliber double-team blocking.
 
Tackling: Solid tackler; can be explosive and always gives good effort. Leans when closing on the ball to ensure contact and his long arms allow him to wrap consistently. Good hustle downfield on screens. Also follows plays down the line and can chase to the opposite sideline. Best when attacking plays in front of him. Though he can redirect well for his height and size, he doesn't change direction easily and lacks the immediate burst to play on the edge in the NFL.
 
Intangibles: He has a great attitude, work ethic and immense talent. Well-liked by his teammates and coaches, he has fun playing the game. Hustles without wearing down much during the game. Returned for his senior season because he enjoyed college and wanted to win a national championship. Father, the late Craig "Ironhead" Heyward, was a star running back in college and the NFL. Stepfather is Cory Blackwell, a star basketball player for the Wisconsin Badgers in the 1980s who played one season for the NBA's Seattle Sonics.
 

Compares to: Marcus Spears, Cowboys -- Long, strong and experienced in both fronts, don't expect Heyward to post big sack totals, but he'll hold up well at the point of attack, especially as a five-technique defensive end in the 3-4 alignment.

 



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The Green Bay Packer close out the First Round with the 32nd Pick and taking Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State

Pass blocking: Good initial quickness. Eases out of his stance and has the lateral agility and balance to mirror the defender. Good hand strength and has long arms that he uses to latch onto and control his opponent. Generally plays with good knee-bend and leverage, but can lose his anchor when he tires. Can become fundamentally lazy and lean into the defender; gets knocked off-balance and gives up the inside lane. Should improve in this area with greater focus on his technique, but has an upside-down triangle build due to broad shoulders and relatively narrow hips, making him top-heavy and susceptible to being overpowered. Among his better attributes is his recognition. Recognizes the blitz coming and gets a good initial pop on his primary target (defensive end) before passing him off to the guard and working his way outside to catch the rushing linebacker or stunting defensive tackle.
 
Run blocking: Comes off the ball too high and lacks the pad level and power to consistently knock defenders off the line. Good quickness and hand strength to turn and seal off defenders from the play. Good recognition to release from double-team and get out to the second level. Scouts would like to see him finish blocks with more authority before releasing.
 
Pulling/trapping: Good initial quickness to release to the second level, but has only average agility to re-direct in the open field. Locates his target, but has to do a better job of anticipating where the defender is going. Isn't fluid enough to change direction and hit the moving target. Too often extends his arms, "catching" the linebacker, which could result in penalty flags when playing against NFL-caliber athletes. Good trap blocker due to his initial quickness, big frame and recognition.
 
Initial Quickness: Good, though not elite, initial quickness off the snap. Has the agility and long arms to handle most right defensive ends (and thus remain at left tackle), but due to the fact that he is a bit top-heavy and lacks elite balance, is susceptible to quick jab-steps outside and spin or counter moves back to the inside. Is quick enough in the running game to turn and seal off the defender, creating a wall from which the running back can bounce off from.
 
Downfield: Gives good effort to block downfield. Above-average straight-line speed, though his average balance keeps him from being as effective at the second level as his speed and size would indicate. Gets in the way of defenders and has the wingspan to alter their path, but struggles re-directing his charge.
 

Intangibles: Was one of 16 players to win the storied National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame (NFF) Award, which includes a post-graduate $18,000 scholarship. Earned his degree in business with a 3.54 GPA. Is the third Bulldog to win the award and the first since 1989. Team leader voted a captain in 2010. A four-year member of the M-Club, MSU's student-athlete community service organization, he has spent considerable time with the youth of Mississippi. He has served breakfast at Sudduth Elementary School, participated in Sudduth's Kids Fair and read to local students to promote literacy. He has also organized a Thanksgiving food drive.



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Damn the Saints gave up this year's 2nd round pick and next year's 1st round pick to take Ingram.  I am not sure what to think.  Maybe the injury to Ivory is more severe than we know. Maybe they are going to cut Bush and his high salary. They just signed Thomas to a 4 year deal.  Someone in their backfield is going to go. 

Oh man, Detroit's Interior Line is going to be devastating. Suh and Fairley? Unfucking real, they will be a badass tandem.  Can they be blocked at all?

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beejmi wrote:
Carolina has been on the clock since week ten last year and I don't think they're sure who to take.

I just got home and right at the bottle of page one I'm spilling my beer laughing. OTC since week 10! Priceless!

Back to the thread to see who all got picked. See what new Raiders will be on the next Super Bowl Championship Team, lol!



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Ironhead's son made the 1st round. I loved watching his Dad play so I hope he has a good career.



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Not too much out of the ordinary in the First Round of the NFL Draft in 2011.  There were no major reaches like we usually see from teams like the Raiders or the Browns.  That's right.....Oakland did not have a First Round pick this year. LOL 

Any thoughts?

What did you think of your team's picks?

We should see a pretty deep 2nd and 3rd rounds this year. 



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Angelic Assassin wrote: beejmi wrote:
Carolina has been on the clock since week ten last year and I don't think they're sure who to take.

I just got home and right at the bottle of page one I'm spilling my beer laughing. OTC since week 10! Priceless!

Back to the thread to see who all got picked. See what new Raiders will be on the next Super Bowl Championship Team, lol!
Raiders gave up their 1st round pick to get Seymour last year.



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Road Warrior Yajuta wrote:
Angelic Assassin wrote: beejmi wrote:
Carolina has been on the clock since week ten last year and I don't think they're sure who to take.

I just got home and right at the bottle of page one I'm spilling my beer laughing. OTC since week 10! Priceless!

Back to the thread to see who all got picked. See what new Raiders will be on the next Super Bowl Championship Team, lol!
Raiders gave up their 1st round pick to get Seymour last year.


Remembered that after I posted but at least I can hold my head up high and say at least the Raiders didn't make a "bad" pick in the 1st Round! I'm sure they won't let you all down and they'll pick some mutt first chance they get.



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I hear ya. The Raiders are my other team, and they have had some bad ones.  Davis is fucking senile now. 



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Road Warrior Yajuta wrote: I hear ya. The Raiders are my other team, and they have had some bad ones.  Davis is fucking senile now. 

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Papa Voo wrote: Redskins......What in the hell do they pick?
Can the Redskins draft a new owner??

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I don't know most of the players but it is interesting to see what position the teams drafted. I  get the vibe that teams went for "the best available according to our ratings" this year as opposed to drafting for a particular position (Tennessee being the obvious exception) more this year than in the past.

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That Falcons trade with Cleveland still has me scratching my head.

 

The Falcons swapped their First Round pick with the Brownies. They went from the 27th pick to the 6th pick.

The Falcons also surrendered this year's Second Round pick and this year's Fourth Round pick.

Then, they also give Cleveland their First Round and Fourth Round picks next year.

 

That seems like a little much for Julio Jones.  He was not even considered the best receiver in the Draft, but maybe the Falcons have better information, and he becomes one of the top receivers in the league.

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Did that Bowers kid get drafted? It seemed to come off the to the analysts as surprising that he didn't go early in the draft, and by glancing quickly here I didn't see his name listed.



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Papa Voo wrote: brodiescomics wrote: Wow. The Lions D-Line is officially SICK! Too bad Stafford will probably be dead by Week 6.

Yep.  At least there is some consistency and vision in what this coach wants to do.  Defense!  Defense!  Defense!  They do need to strengthen those corners, though.


Agree with both of you. They need some o line help, if they want Stafford to remain upright during the season? I get the whole "Gotta have the best D" thing, and we're getting to that, but, they need to address the O line real soon. Draft guys keep saying they need to draft CB's, we need to also get some O linemen too, or Stafford's going down again.

 



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