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 Posted: Sun Jul 10th, 2011 11:47 pm
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Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
srossi wrote: 1st Yankee to reach 3,000 hits
2nd player to reach 3,000 with a homer (Boggs)
2nd player to have 5 hits in the game in which he hit 3,000 (Biggio)
1st 5-hit game in the new Yankee Stadium
1st 5-hit game for Jeter since 2005
still hard to believe that only 2 out of 28 have hit #3000 as HR's


I find it harder to believe that he is the only Yankee to reach 3000 hits. Seems like they should have many more with all those historic figures.

No shit right?

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mike3775 wrote: Congrats to probably the last clean 3000 hit player for a long ass time.  I have never heard any inkling of him cheating ever(drug wise anyways), so this accomplishment is very well earned



Has Johnny Damon ever been linked to Roids? He's about 200+ hits away from 3,000, and could reach that mark by next year



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stingmark wrote:
mike3775 wrote: Congrats to probably the last clean 3000 hit player for a long ass time.  I have never heard any inkling of him cheating ever(drug wise anyways), so this accomplishment is very well earned



Has Johnny Damon ever been linked to Roids? He's about 200+ hits away from 3,000, and could reach that mark by next year

No way he makes it by next year. Maybe 2 more.



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I saw a commerical on HBO saying that there is something called Derek Jeter 3K coming soon. It could be interesting.



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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: mike3775 wrote:
martini wrote: mike3775 wrote: The ball, one of the specially marked ones put in play for the occasion, disappeared into a cluster of fans a few rows beyond the wall. Christian Lopez of Highland Park, N.Y., sitting in Section 236, emerged with the valuable prize. He gladly gave the ball back to the Yankees so Jeter can have the memento, and the Yankees rewarded him with four tickets to every game for the rest of the season and autographed memorabilia. "He earned it," the 23-year-old Lopez told the YES Network. "I'm not going to be the person to take that away from him."


Now right there is a classy fan as well.  I doubt many would simply give it back the way he did


That's a stupid fan.. He had at least 100K on his hands low-balling it and he gave it away to his precious Yankee hero who could care less about him...

What a goof..
Holding a baseball for money is scumbagish to me, much like pushing a kid out of the way for a foul ball


And the thing is, he still has the potential for a big payday, if he wants it. You know the 4 tickets management gave him are going to be good seats. For sake of argument, let's say the four total face value is $500. If he wants to sell those seats for the rest of the season's home games, that's around $20k right there. And that's not even counting the memoribilia. I'm sure he got a bunch of crap signed by Jeter. If he wants to turn around and sell that, I'm sure he'd pocket some big cash there as well.

And now the Atlantic has defended Lopez giving the ball back, offering a case that not only takes into account the cash that Lopez could conceivably get by selling the merchandise he received, but speaking of "utility theory".  Interesting argument.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/07/was-giving-jeters-3-000th-hit-back-a-dumb-move/241740/

This article brings up another great "What If".  What if a Yankees/Jeter fan hadn't caught the ball.  What if a Mets or a Red Sox fan had caught it?  What if the fan who caught it absolutely despised Jeter? 

All in all, I'd say Jetes was lucky Lopez was the guy that caught it.



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: I saw a commerical on HBO saying that there is something called Derek Jeter 3K coming soon. It could be interesting.
AN HBO camera crew has been following him around ever since he got off the DL. 



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stingmark wrote: mike3775 wrote: Congrats to probably the last clean 3000 hit player for a long ass time.  I have never heard any inkling of him cheating ever(drug wise anyways), so this accomplishment is very well earned



Has Johnny Damon ever been linked to Roids? He's about 200+ hits away from 3,000, and could reach that mark by next year

I think Damon still needs over 300.

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Chrisstlouis wrote: stingmark wrote: mike3775 wrote: Congrats to probably the last clean 3000 hit player for a long ass time.  I have never heard any inkling of him cheating ever(drug wise anyways), so this accomplishment is very well earned



Has Johnny Damon ever been linked to Roids? He's about 200+ hits away from 3,000, and could reach that mark by next year

I think Damon still needs over 300.

Damon will be 38 in November and has 2,663 hits.  Since 2006 he's been averaging about 150 hits a season.  So if he continues to do that for the rest of this season, next, and 2013 he'll just about get there.  He'll hang around to get it into 2014 if necessary because he wants it badly, but his skills could fall off a cliff and then he has no chance.



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I don't think he will make it. 

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mike3775 wrote: I don't think he will make it. 

Damon'll make it.  As rossi already calculated, barring injury, he'll finish this season around 2,720.  Damon has been remarkably consistent and injury free throughout his career, averaging 149 games in each of his 15 full seasons.  Even in his last 5 seasons, he's averaged 144 games, so not much of a tail off there.  Over that time span, he's been averaging 1.08 hits per game played, so even if his games tail off a bit (say 140 the next two seasons) he should, as rossi pointed out, make it by the end of 2013.

It would be one thing if Damon were struggling (or clearly at the very end of his career, ala Omar Vizquel), and we wanted him to limp into 3,000; then, I'd say he has no shot.  However, he's still playing at an above average level.  When he finally makes it, he'll go along with Craig Biggio as the two guys that I'll always say, "Oh yeah, that's right; he somehow managed to get 3,000 hits, didn't he?" 



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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: mike3775 wrote: I don't think he will make it. 

Damon'll make it.  As rossi already calculated, barring injury, he'll finish this season around 2,720.  Damon has been remarkably consistent and injury free throughout his career, averaging 149 games in each of his 15 full seasons.  Even in his last 5 seasons, he's averaged 144 games, so not much of a tail off there.  Over that time span, he's been averaging 1.08 hits per game played, so even if his games tail off a bit (say 140 the next two seasons) he should, as rossi pointed out, make it by the end of 2013.

It would be one thing if Damon were struggling (or clearly at the very end of his career, ala Omar Vizquel), and we wanted him to limp into 3,000; then, I'd say he has no shot.  However, he's still playing at an above average level.  When he finally makes it, he'll go along with Craig Biggio as the two guys that I'll always say, "Oh yeah, that's right; he somehow managed to get 3,000 hits, didn't he?" 
The odds say otherwise though

Yes he has played in a shitload of games per year for over 15 years, but it may catch up to him, unless he is on one hell of a training program, as even Ichiro is starting to slow down now

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mike3775 wrote: dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: mike3775 wrote: I don't think he will make it. 

Damon'll make it.  As rossi already calculated, barring injury, he'll finish this season around 2,720.  Damon has been remarkably consistent and injury free throughout his career, averaging 149 games in each of his 15 full seasons.  Even in his last 5 seasons, he's averaged 144 games, so not much of a tail off there.  Over that time span, he's been averaging 1.08 hits per game played, so even if his games tail off a bit (say 140 the next two seasons) he should, as rossi pointed out, make it by the end of 2013.

It would be one thing if Damon were struggling (or clearly at the very end of his career, ala Omar Vizquel), and we wanted him to limp into 3,000; then, I'd say he has no shot.  However, he's still playing at an above average level.  When he finally makes it, he'll go along with Craig Biggio as the two guys that I'll always say, "Oh yeah, that's right; he somehow managed to get 3,000 hits, didn't he?" 
The odds say otherwise though

Yes he has played in a shitload of games per year for over 15 years, but it may catch up to him, unless he is on one hell of a training program, as even Ichiro is starting to slow down now

From what I've heard, during his steroid years, Damon got himself in tremendous physical shape, and now, post steroids, continues to keep himself in excellent physical shape.



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Well I did say it would be a long time until someone clean hits 3000 again, Damon isn't it, but if he does hit 3000 oh well

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Theres a couple of guys that will hit 3000 in 3 yrs old less if they stick around:
AROD
Damon
IROD

I don't think Vizquel will make it even tho he' close



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Rodriguez is very iffy unless he gets traded to an AL team where he can be the DH and be in the line up more.

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