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 Posted: Mon Dec 5th, 2011 12:41 pm
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The Sugar Bowl chose also rans Virginia Tech and Michigan over more deservin teams such as Boise and Kansas State.

No Kidding,this is a marquee BCS bowl,one of the Big 4 and they chose two half assed teams like that? 

No wonder there have been calls from time to time for Congress to get involved in college football postseason in the past. This has to be one of the most boneheaded and head scratching decisions in a long long time,and has me wondering if the same type of corruption that brought down the prestige of the Fiesta Bowl isn't going on here too.

Now way there weren't under the table payoffs here,at least Ohio State's scandal was players trying to get something for nothing,not high level corruption.



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Outside of the BCS Championship game, the objective of the big bowls is to sell tickets and draw viewers.  Their desire is to get "payoffs" at the turnstiles.

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tofu_chipmunk wrote:
Outside of the BCS Championship game, the objective of the big bowls is to sell tickets and draw viewers.  Their desire is to get "payoffs" at the turnstiles.

This. It's just common sense on the Sugar Bowls part, VA Tech and Michican both travel well, they will sell tix, Kansas State and Boise won't.



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Married Jo wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote:
Outside of the BCS Championship game, the objective of the big bowls is to sell tickets and draw viewers.  Their desire is to get "payoffs" at the turnstiles.

This. It's just common sense on the Sugar Bowls part, VA Tech and Michican both travel well, they will sell tix, Kansas State and Boise won't.

I think Kansas State travels okay, but Virginia Tech has a track record of bringing good crowds to New Orleans.  The Sugar likes to go with SEC teams, but couldn't take one here due to the two-teams-per-conference cap, so opted for another southern team to put opposite Michigan and their giant fan base.

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Boise State sold out their Fiesta Bowl ticket allotments both times they made it there, and they sold all their tickets for their last two season openers, in Landover, Maryland and Atlanta, Georgia.  They have also drawn higher ratings for their BCS games than Virginia Tech has. The "Boise won't travel" stuff just isn't true.



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Ratings may have been just a big a factor as if a team "travels well", and I imagine V Tech and Michigan would get larger ratings than Boise and Kansas State, and the TV Network may have "suggested" which teams they'd like to see.



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cdewar19 wrote: Boise State sold out their Fiesta Bowl ticket allotments both times they made it there, and they sold all their tickets for their last two season openers, in Landover, Maryland and Atlanta, Georgia.  They have also drawn higher ratings for their BCS games than Virginia Tech has. The "Boise won't travel" stuff just isn't true.

Would Boise outsell Virginia Tech in New Orleans?  I can buy that they would outsell Virginia Tech in Glendale, Arizona.  I'm not a Hokie apologist, but Virginia Tech has had bad matchups in some of their Orange Bowl games against Stanford, Kansas, and Cincinnati.  Boise has been to two BCS games, but had a compelling matchup against Oklahoma in one of them.

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Teams only get 17,500 tickets to sell for the Sugar Bowl. It's not a matter of out-selling, it's a matter of selling your allotment.



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cdewar19 wrote: Teams only get 17,500 tickets to sell for the Sugar Bowl. It's not a matter of out-selling, it's a matter of selling your allotment.
Apparently Sugar Bowl officials thought Virginia Tech and Michigan stood a better chance of doing that than Kansas State, Boise State, and Baylor.

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tofu_chipmunk wrote: cdewar19 wrote: Teams only get 17,500 tickets to sell for the Sugar Bowl. It's not a matter of out-selling, it's a matter of selling your allotment.
Apparently Sugar Bowl officials thought Virginia Tech and Michigan stood a better chance of doing that than Kansas State, Boise State, and Baylor.

Now Baylor vs. Michigan would have been a great matchup Denard vs. RG3 would have been amazing

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krazykid18 wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: cdewar19 wrote: Teams only get 17,500 tickets to sell for the Sugar Bowl. It's not a matter of out-selling, it's a matter of selling your allotment.
Apparently Sugar Bowl officials thought Virginia Tech and Michigan stood a better chance of doing that than Kansas State, Boise State, and Baylor.

Now Baylor vs. Michigan would have been a great matchup Denard vs. RG3 would have been amazing
Baylor vs Michigan would be a good game.  I have no interest in VT vs Michigan at all.  So far the only bowl I may actually watch is the Orange bowl between Stanford and Oklahoma St.  The rest just don't scream "make sure to watch" especially the national championship game

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mike3775 wrote: krazykid18 wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: cdewar19 wrote: Teams only get 17,500 tickets to sell for the Sugar Bowl. It's not a matter of out-selling, it's a matter of selling your allotment.
Apparently Sugar Bowl officials thought Virginia Tech and Michigan stood a better chance of doing that than Kansas State, Boise State, and Baylor.

Now Baylor vs. Michigan would have been a great matchup Denard vs. RG3 would have been amazing
Baylor vs Michigan would be a good game.  I have no interest in VT vs Michigan at all.  So far the only bowl I may actually watch is the Orange bowl between Stanford and Oklahoma St.  The rest just don't scream "make sure to watch" especially the national championship game

Stanford/Okie State is the Fiesta Bowl. Wisconsin/Oregon in the Rose Bowl should be pretty fun too. Hopefully the national title game doesn't end up 9-6 again....



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mike3775 wrote: krazykid18 wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: cdewar19 wrote: Teams only get 17,500 tickets to sell for the Sugar Bowl. It's not a matter of out-selling, it's a matter of selling your allotment.
Apparently Sugar Bowl officials thought Virginia Tech and Michigan stood a better chance of doing that than Kansas State, Boise State, and Baylor.

Now Baylor vs. Michigan would have been a great matchup Denard vs. RG3 would have been amazing
Baylor vs Michigan would be a good game.  I have no interest in VT vs Michigan at all.  So far the only bowl I may actually watch is the Orange bowl between Stanford and Oklahoma St.  The rest just don't scream "make sure to watch" especially the national championship game

Yeah why VT they don't have no marquee player i mean damn RG3 vs. Robinson would have probably been the most exciting bowl game

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This is proof though that there are too many BCS bowls and bowls in general. When you do not have a mid-major to fill the spot (and Arkansas cannot go because of the 2 team rule) you wind up getting a matchup like this. Michigan is not the best team in their own state, they play in a horseshit conference, they're not even in the Top 10, but they get in one because they have a lot of fans.

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cdewar19 wrote: mike3775 wrote: krazykid18 wrote: tofu_chipmunk wrote: cdewar19 wrote: Teams only get 17,500 tickets to sell for the Sugar Bowl. It's not a matter of out-selling, it's a matter of selling your allotment.
Apparently Sugar Bowl officials thought Virginia Tech and Michigan stood a better chance of doing that than Kansas State, Boise State, and Baylor.

Now Baylor vs. Michigan would have been a great matchup Denard vs. RG3 would have been amazing
Baylor vs Michigan would be a good game.  I have no interest in VT vs Michigan at all.  So far the only bowl I may actually watch is the Orange bowl between Stanford and Oklahoma St.  The rest just don't scream "make sure to watch" especially the national championship game

Stanford/Okie State is the Fiesta Bowl. Wisconsin/Oregon in the Rose Bowl should be pretty fun too. Hopefully the national title game doesn't end up 9-6 again....
oops I misread CNN/SI with the Orange bowl.    Wisconsin/Oregon may be a good game so I may watch it.

But honestly, looking at the bowls, there really isn't many appealing games this year.

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