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 Posted: Mon Jul 29th, 2013 10:21 pm
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Married Jo wrote: Give Prince Fielder a 5 year, $100 million dollar deal, problem solved...
I don't envision Fielder signing for half the years and less than half the coin Pujols got.


Alot of the folks at the winter meetings, kept saying he wouldnt get more than 5yrs & $100-$120 million anyway, which imo, is about right. No way hes worth anywhere near the Pujols deal, sorry, I just dont see it.
No one thought Pujols was going to get 254 million, but he did. That number raises the bar substantially for Prince. He's not going to get Pujols money, but with Scott Boras representing him, an 8-year, 150 million dollar deal sounds about right.


Supposedly, those kind of offers just werent there for Fielder. Doubt many would be willing to ante up that kind of deal for Fielder? Not worth it imo. Doubt he sees any offers past 5-6yrs and $120mill, it could happen though. Just dont see it, imo.

Alot of folks thought Pujols would get a $200+ mill deal, 3-4 teams offered hkm $220 and he turned them all down. Not unreasonable to believe hed get Arod type money? I thought atleast $240 would have to do it. Guys better than AFraud, he got almost as much, which was pretty much right in line.

Let's revisit this when Prince gets his deal.


Kinda proves my point though, that hes not worth an 8yr $150+ mill deal? If he were, you can be certain hed have been signed. 8yrs is too long. From what I remember hearing, not a single team offered him more than a 5-6 yr deal.

But, we'll revisit it later.


Sure does prove your point.

On January 26, 2012 Fielder agreed to a nine-year, $214 million contract with the Detroit Tigers.

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The Ultimate Sin wrote: stingmark wrote:
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Married Jo wrote: Give Prince Fielder a 5 year, $100 million dollar deal, problem solved...
I don't envision Fielder signing for half the years and less than half the coin Pujols got.


Alot of the folks at the winter meetings, kept saying he wouldnt get more than 5yrs & $100-$120 million anyway, which imo, is about right. No way hes worth anywhere near the Pujols deal, sorry, I just dont see it.
No one thought Pujols was going to get 254 million, but he did. That number raises the bar substantially for Prince. He's not going to get Pujols money, but with Scott Boras representing him, an 8-year, 150 million dollar deal sounds about right.


Supposedly, those kind of offers just werent there for Fielder. Doubt many would be willing to ante up that kind of deal for Fielder? Not worth it imo. Doubt he sees any offers past 5-6yrs and $120mill, it could happen though. Just dont see it, imo.

Alot of folks thought Pujols would get a $200+ mill deal, 3-4 teams offered hkm $220 and he turned them all down. Not unreasonable to believe hed get Arod type money? I thought atleast $240 would have to do it. Guys better than AFraud, he got almost as much, which was pretty much right in line.

Let's revisit this when Prince gets his deal.


Kinda proves my point though, that hes not worth an 8yr $150+ mill deal? If he were, you can be certain hed have been signed. 8yrs is too long. From what I remember hearing, not a single team offered him more than a 5-6 yr deal.

But, we'll revisit it later.


Sure does prove your point.

On January 26, 2012 Fielder agreed to a nine-year, $214 million contract with the Detroit Tigers.


(Yay...Vortex). My point before was(and still is), Fielder isn't worth $108 Mill, nor is he worth what Detroit paid him. IMO, he's done nothing to warrant said contract from the Tigers. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that's ok.

HE STILL DOESN'T DESERVE WHAT HE GOT, now or then. The Tigers will have trouble in about 4 yrs trying to trade him, who other than say the Yankees can absorb that kind of contract? Oh wait, I'm sure you'll list 5 other teams willing to do so, right? of course.



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stingmark wrote:
The Ultimate Sin wrote: stingmark wrote:
TXM wrote:
stingmark wrote: TXM wrote:
stingmark wrote: TXM wrote:
Married Jo wrote: Give Prince Fielder a 5 year, $100 million dollar deal, problem solved...
I don't envision Fielder signing for half the years and less than half the coin Pujols got.


Alot of the folks at the winter meetings, kept saying he wouldnt get more than 5yrs & $100-$120 million anyway, which imo, is about right. No way hes worth anywhere near the Pujols deal, sorry, I just dont see it.
No one thought Pujols was going to get 254 million, but he did. That number raises the bar substantially for Prince. He's not going to get Pujols money, but with Scott Boras representing him, an 8-year, 150 million dollar deal sounds about right.


Supposedly, those kind of offers just werent there for Fielder. Doubt many would be willing to ante up that kind of deal for Fielder? Not worth it imo. Doubt he sees any offers past 5-6yrs and $120mill, it could happen though. Just dont see it, imo.

Alot of folks thought Pujols would get a $200+ mill deal, 3-4 teams offered hkm $220 and he turned them all down. Not unreasonable to believe hed get Arod type money? I thought atleast $240 would have to do it. Guys better than AFraud, he got almost as much, which was pretty much right in line.

Let's revisit this when Prince gets his deal.


Kinda proves my point though, that hes not worth an 8yr $150+ mill deal? If he were, you can be certain hed have been signed. 8yrs is too long. From what I remember hearing, not a single team offered him more than a 5-6 yr deal.

But, we'll revisit it later.


Sure does prove your point.

On January 26, 2012 Fielder agreed to a nine-year, $214 million contract with the Detroit Tigers.


(Yay...Vortex). My point before was(and still is), Fielder isn't worth $108 Mill, nor is he worth what Detroit paid him. IMO, he's done nothing to warrant said contract from the Tigers. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that's ok.

HE STILL DOESN'T DESERVE WHAT HE GOT, now or then. The Tigers will have trouble in about 4 yrs trying to trade him, who other than say the Yankees can absorb that kind of contract? Oh wait, I'm sure you'll list 5 other teams willing to do so, right? of course.


But of course, the thread clearly showed that you thought he wouldn't get anywhere near the deal he got, so you were wrong, regardless of your opinion on his "worth. But I wouldn't have expected anythingless . Welcome back, stingy!

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Oddly enough, Pujols contract is only the SECOND worse long term high-pay contract on this roster.  Couple that with the worst bullpen in all of MLB.  Not a great time to be an Angels fan.

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stingmark wrote:


My point before was(and still is), Fielder isn't worth $108 Mill, nor is he worth what Detroit paid him.


Oh, that was your point. I thought your point was he wouldn't get more than 5 years 100-120 million. I was confused because you said it repeatedly.

Like here... from your many conversations with GMs at the winter meetings...

"Alot of the folks at the winter meetings, kept saying he wouldnt get more than 5yrs & $100-$120 million anyway, which imo, is about right."


Or here when when you said those offers, like the one he signed weren't there for him.


"Supposedly, those kind of offers just werent there for Fielder. Doubt many would be willing to ante up that kind of deal for Fielder?"

Or here where you say it a 3rd time...

"Doubt he sees any offers past 5-6yrs and $120mill."

Or here when you said it a 4th time...

"From what I remember hearing, not a single team offered him more than a 5-6 yr deal."


So you can see why we're confused and thought the point you were attempting to make was the one you kept fucking typing over and over and over and over. You know, the one that was completely fucking wrong, backed by "facts" you made up, from conversations you never had at the winter meetings you never attended.

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he's done nothing to warrant said contract from the Tigers. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that's ok.


Ask Triple Crown Winner Miguel Cabrera what he thinks of having Prince hitting behind him. I'm sure he would have put up the same numbers with Delmon Young and Victor Martinez in the 4 spot.

I know you say you are a Tiger fan, but it's like you've never actually seen them play.



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The Ultimate Sin wrote:
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he's done nothing to warrant said contract from the Tigers. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that's ok.


Ask Triple Crown Winner Miguel Cabrera what he thinks of having Prince hitting behind him. I'm sure he would have put up the same numbers with Delmon Young and Victor Martinez in the 4 spot.

I know you say you are a Tiger fan, but it's like you've never actually seen them play.


Stingmark passionately arguing things that he's not really familiar with? What an outageous notion! Are you smoking something?

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When A-Rod gets the lifetime ban which is probably coming, Pujols will be the poster boy for bad contracts. I still say, accept that 5 year 130 mill contract from St. Louis, become the second coming of Stan Musial and set every Cardinals record there is to set, if you're near any of the big records sign another contract at the end of the 5 years and enjoy a blissful retirement as king of the city.

Instead, he's going to be looked at by angry Anaheim fans as a joke in a couple of years, and he'll have no-one to blame but his own greed for a few extra million.

Prince Fielder's contract is nowhere near as bad as Albert's.

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You can probably argue the Tigers overpaid for Prince, but at least he's playing and producing. Hell, I read he has the longest consecutive games played streak in MLB which is kind of amazing for a fat guy.



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You can probably argue the Tigers overpaid for Prince, but at least he's playing and producing. Hell, I read he has the longest consecutive games played streak in MLB which is kind of amazing for a fat guy.

In his rookie year he dogged it on an infield ground out, and Robin Yount grabbed him by the collar and told him to run out every ball he hit. He has ever since.

If you get to see Prince play every day it's pretty amazing how hard he plays. It's quite refreshing. His triple in the All-Star game is a testament to that.



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As the Principal noted in the 2014 baseball thread, Pujols hit home run number 500 tonight. I love bumping this thread up so we can look at what people said at the time he signed with the Angels.

As an aside, the Tigers loved big, fat Prince Fielder so much they traded him to Texas for Ian Kinsler.



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Pujois must've received a new batch of undercover HGH.



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Sure does prove your point.

On January 26, 2012 Fielder agreed to a nine-year, $214 million contract with the Detroit Tigers

Yep, And apparently during the offseason, The Tigers ALSO "didn't think he was worth $270 some odd million dollars they paid him", or they wouldn't have traded him.

 

Last I looked, Fatty Fielder was playing for the Rangers, and that sorta/kinda proves what I said above that teams didn't think he's worth that much. Detroit did, then they came to their senses and realized he was a flop, and(thankfully) traded him off to TX for Ian Kinsler, and in the process, saved over $70 million dollars. Maybe TX does, but they also thought ARod was worth $250+ million, and they didn't last long with that mindset. Now Detroit is off the hook from Fielders deal.

I bet the Nats are second guessing giving Werth all that money too.

Did you see your man Pujols hit his 500th today? You being an admitted Angels fan, you should be ecstatic. How's Bobby Grich doing these days?



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clawmaster wrote: As the Principal noted in the 2014 baseball thread, Pujols hit home run number 500 tonight. I love bumping this thread up so we can look at what people said at the time he signed with the Angels.

As an aside, the Tigers loved big, fat Prince Fielder so much they traded him to Texas for Ian Kinsler.


I sort of assumed he'd underperform and be in a worse position in the city than he would have been had he signed a shorter contract in St. Louis. This milestone appears to have given him a bump, but I still reckon I'll be right (righter than Stingmark was, anyway) - and I'd rather have Matt Adams on 1B than Albert in 2014.

 

 

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