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 Posted: Wed Dec 14th, 2011 08:30 pm
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Beej can post the odds later. Here's the TV lineup.

Week 15 Schedule
Doubleheader on CBS

Thursday Night Football
Jaguars at Falcons - 8:20 - NFL Network (Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock)

Saturday, December 17
Cowboys at Buccaneers - 8:20 - NFL Network (Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock)

CBS
1:00 pm:
Bengals at Rams (Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf)
Titans at Colts (Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts)
Dolphins at Bills (Kevin Harlan and Solomon Wilcots)

4:15 pm:
Patriots at Broncos (Jim Nantz and Phil Simms)
Jets at Eagles (Marv Albert and Rich Gannon)
Browns at Cardinals (Bill Macatee and Steve Tasker)


Fox
1:00 pm:
Redskins at Giants (Joe Buck and Troy Aikman)
Packers at Chiefs (Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston and Tony Siragusa)
Saints at Vikings (Dick Stockton and John Lynch)
Seahawks at Bears (Chris Myers and Tim Ryan)
Panthers at Texans (Ron Pitts and Charles Davis)

4:05 pm:
Lions at Raiders (Thom Brennaman and Brian Billick)

Sunday Night Football on NBC
Ravens at Chargers - 8:20 pm (Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth)

ESPN Monday Night Football
Steelers at 49ers - 8:30 pm (Mike Tirico, Ron Jaworski and Jon Gruden)



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I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

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Jacksonville at Atlanta (11)
Dallas (7) at Tampa Bay
Washington at NY Giants (7)
Green Bay (14) at Kansas City
New Orleans (6.5) at Minnesota
Seattle at Chicago (3.5)
Miami (1.5) vs Buffalo
Carolina at Houston (6)
Tennessee (6.5) at Indy
Cincy (6) at St Louis
Detroit (1) at Oakland
New England (6.5) vs Denver
NY Jets at Philly (3)
Cleveland at Arizona (6.5)
Baltimore (2.5) at San Diego
Pittsburgh at San Fran (2.5)

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mike3775 wrote: I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

The Broncos are kinda sorta becoming "America's Team" right now

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beejmi wrote: mike3775 wrote: I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

The Broncos are kinda sorta becoming "America's Team" right now
From what I understand, thats why NBC has the option to flex, it gives teams on the rise a chance to be seen nationally(like Detroit this year).  And with Tebow somehow being Scotty for the Bronco's the past few weeks, you would think NBC and the NFL would want to put Tebow vs Brady on in primetime, unless they expect New England to blow em out early and it be no contest

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Baltimore at San Diego is still a good game though. The Ravens and Steelers
are joined at the hip in the standings and the Steelers are a big deal nationally. Steeler fans are going to watch that Ravens/Chargers game. San Diego one helluva potential spoiler.


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beejmi wrote: Baltimore at San Diego is still a good game though. The Ravens and Steelers
are joined at the hip in the standings and the Steelers are a big deal nationally. Steeler fans are going to watch that Ravens/Chargers game. San Diego one helluva potential spoiler.


That may be why they are not flexing, which I can also understand

Its not often where flexing can go either way with games

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mike3775 wrote:
beejmi wrote: mike3775 wrote: I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

The Broncos are kinda sorta becoming "America's Team" right now
From what I understand, thats why NBC has the option to flex, it gives teams on the rise a chance to be seen nationally(like Detroit this year).  And with Tebow somehow being Scotty for the Bronco's the past few weeks, you would think NBC and the NFL would want to put Tebow vs Brady on in primetime, unless they expect New England to blow em out early and it be no contest


CBS probably fought like hell to keep it.



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Benlen wrote: mike3775 wrote:
beejmi wrote: mike3775 wrote: I'm shocked they didnt flex the Bronco's/Pats to the night game on NBC.  That would be ratings gold for NBC and the NFL

The Broncos are kinda sorta becoming "America's Team" right now
From what I understand, thats why NBC has the option to flex, it gives teams on the rise a chance to be seen nationally(like Detroit this year).  And with Tebow somehow being Scotty for the Bronco's the past few weeks, you would think NBC and the NFL would want to put Tebow vs Brady on in primetime, unless they expect New England to blow em out early and it be no contest


CBS probably fought like hell to keep it.
I was reading Peter King from CNN/SI and here is what he said about it

Things you should know about how the NFL schedules TV games
Last week, the NFL raised a ruckus (certainly at the network where I work, NBC) by keeping the Baltimore-San Diego as the Week 15 Sunday night game on NBC, and keeping New England-Denver as a CBS Sunday afternoon game. Let me explain first why the league did that, then I'll tell you a few things about the gymnastics of which games go where.
When the flex schedule was established by the league for NBC's Sunday night package, it was done primarily to keep bad games (like some of the Monday-night clunkers we've seen) off of national TV on Sunday night. NBC paid for the right to flex out of a bad game. (More about why ESPN can't in a moment.) Flexing also gave teams rising from mediocrity (Detroit, for instance, eight days ago) the chance to play their way onto the Sunday night stage. And this is what NBC had hoped would happen when the league decided whether to keep the Ravens-Chargers as the Sunday night game or, as NBC wanted badly, to move the Patriots-Broncos, with the great Tebow story, to the night game, with Baltimore-San Diego moving to an afternoon start in San Diego.
NBC had a couple of good arguments. Denver had played its way into prime time, and Denver owner Pat Bowlen, a member of the NFL's Broadcast Committee, agreed. He wanted the game in prime time. New England is a big ratings attraction for NBC, and when the league flexed out of the New England-Indianapolis game a few weeks ago (understandably, obviously), NBC lost one of its two New England availabilities. Also, putting the game on CBS would mean it wouldn't be a national game. The New York, Philadelphia, Cleveland and Phoenix CBS affiliates will show their local teams' games and not Tebow-Brady. CBS, on the other hand, wanted to keep the game because of the Tebow factor and made its case to keep the game. And the case was a pretty good one: The Baltimore-San Diego game matched one team, following the Chargers' Monday night win at Jacksonville, that would enter the game one or two games out of the division lead, San Diego, against a team, Baltimore, likely to be tied for its division lead, in a dogfight with Pittsburgh. It didn't rise to the level of needing to take an A game to replace a B-plus game.
I can tell you this: The NFL would have moved Denver-New England to prime time if Jacksonville beat San Diego last Monday. There was still some internal debate to be had when San Diego won the game, but the NFL decided it couldn't justify taking the game from CBS.
Flex scheduling was designed with this primary objective -- to avoid a dog game. Baltimore-San Diego's not a dog at all. It's not Tebowmania, but those are the breaks.
Now, in the aftermath of the decision, it's been assumed that one of the league's powerful owners, Robert Kraft of the Patriots, had a major hand in keeping the game in the afternoon. An afternoon game in Mountain Time means the Patriots would get back to New England at about 2 a.m. If the game had been moved, their charter would return at about 6 a.m. Monday. With a Saturday afternoon game looming the following weekend, obviously the Patriots' preference would have been to play in the afternoon. I'm told two things reliably: Yes, Kraft did tell the league he wanted the game kept in the afternoon. No, Kraft did not strongarm the league in any way about it. "Categorically not,'' said a league source. "It's baloney. Whoever says that doesn't know what he's talking about.''
A few other network tidbits:
• ESPN flex. Many of you have emailed and Tweeted to ask why ESPN doesn't have the same kind of flex schedule. Answer: It's just impractical. It's one thing to move a game back four or seven hours to Sunday night. It's another to move a game, 12 days prior to it, 31 hours back. The hotels, the airplanes, the plans, the fans (inconvenienced enough by the movement from day to night and vice versa) ... It's just too much.
• Rulers. Who makes the final call on the Sunday night flex? NFL broadcast czar Howard Katz and commissioner Roger Goodell.
• Protected game. In early October, FOX and CBS must designate five games in the first six weeks of flex scheduling (and no more than one per network per week) that cannot be flexed to NBC. The Denver-New England game was not protected by CBS; the Jets-Eagles game that weekend was.
• Balancing act. There are 43 prime-time games per season -- 17 on ESPN, 18 on NBC and eight on NFL Network. The NFL cannot take more than 23 games per season away from either network. (CBS has AFC games and FOX the NFC games. In interconference games, most often, the road team dictates the network.)
• Long-term balancing act. This is year six of the eight-year contract with the networks. By the end of year eight, CBS and FOX must be nearly identical in the number of games they lose to prime time. I'm told it's pretty close to even right now so that shouldn't be a major factor in which games are shown in prime time in the next two seasons.
• Week 17. No network has the right to dictate time, and NBC is told which game will be on Sunday night. The NFL plots it to try to have a win-and-you're-in game as the last game of the year -- unless extenuating circumstances pop up. The Packers going for 16-0, for example; that might play a part in the league's decision.



I can see why New England wouldn't want to be flexed, but I never knew NBC has a deal to get 2 New England games(which explains why New England/Indy is always played at the same time every year on NBC)
I also never knew there were protected games, and I can see why CBS didn't protect this game, as no one saw Tebow and Denver being the way they are right now either.  But yeah, I could see CBS trying to keep it also even though they never protected it

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Jacksonville at Atlanta
Dallas at Tampa Bay
Washington at NY Giants
Green Bay at Kansas City
New Orleans at Minnesota
Seattle at Chicago
Miami vs Buffalo
Carolina at Houston
Tennessee  at Indy
Cincy at St Louis
Detroit at Oakland
New England  vs Denver
NY Jets at Philly
Cleveland at Arizona
Baltimore at San Diego
Pittsburgh at San Fran

I get that it's not much of a spread, but don't see why they chose Miami over Buffalo.  Buffalo can still put up numbers.  Miami is now without the best QB they've had all season and a new coach.

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The Falcons should cover easily tonight. The Jags are only 1-5 on the road.

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A guy I work with sent this to me:

"For God so loved the Broncos, he gave his only football son, Tebow, that whosoever should believe in him should not lose, but win in overtime.

John Elway 3:16"

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Tom Brady, after living a full life, died. When he got to heaven, God
was showing him around. They came to a modest little house with a faded
Patriots flag in the window. "This house is yours for eternity Tom, said
God. "This is very special; not everyone gets a house up here." Tom felt
special, indeed, and walked up to his house.

On his way up the porch, he noticed another house just around the
corner. It was a huge 3-story mansion with Orange and Blue sidewalks and
drive ways, a 50 foot tall flagpole with an enormous Broncos logo flag
waving, a swimming pool in shape of a horse, a Broncos logo in every
window, and a Tim Tebow jersey on the front door.

Tom looked at God and said "God, I'm not trying to be ungrateful, but I
have a question. I was an all-pro QB, I won 3 Super Bowls, and I even
went to the Hall of Fame."

God said "So what's your point Tom?"

"Well, why does Tim Tebow get a better house than me?"

God chuckled, and said "Tom, that's not Tim's house, it's mine."

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Atlanta vs Jax on the NFL Network.

Jax kicking off. Atlanta's ball on their own 25.



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16 yard run by Turner.



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