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 Posted: Sat Apr 28th, 2012 01:29 am
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The Tampa Bay Bucs take....



Lavonte David/OLB/Tampa Bay


David is one of the premier linebacker prospects in this year's senior class. The Fort Scott Community College transfer is undersized but able to overcome that through his instincts and speed. He had enormous tackle production throughout his two years at Nebraska, posting more than 260 tackles in his short time there. Instincts are the key to his game, as he always seems to be in the middle of action whether rushing the passer or covering tight ends. David will need to stay off blocks at the next level and either gain strength to shed linemen or continue to play instinctually to stay free. His athletic ability allows him to play loose and fly around, and he should go in the late first round to a team that loves undersized, athletic linebackers.



Strengths David has speed -- that is evident from the second the play starts. He is an instinctive player who is able to read offensive lines and trigger to get to the spot where he needs to be. He understands angles and leveraging himself when taking on blocks, which allows him to overcome his size deficiency. His footwork is fluid in transition and when moving laterally. He routinely fits up against running backs in the hole and stonewalls them at the point. He can pursue against the run to the outside and use his instincts to meet players, and he rarely whiffs on tackles. He can cover tight ends close in man coverage and works well in zone as he has natural, fluid hips to turn and pass set.

Weaknesses David is undersized, and he can struggle at times when linemen get their hands on him on run plays. If he is free he hits the gap hard, but once engaged he attempts to use his strong hands to fight away. He can cover in the long term against tight ends but can also struggle in man against them at the line of scrimmage if they overpower him. Speed and savvy can often overshadow these size and strength hitches in David's game, but his shortcomings could be exposed more at the next level.



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The Philadelphia Eagles take....


Vinny Curry/DE/Marhsall


Curry will have good value as a pass-rushing specialist. Curry is an explosive athlete who has the versatility to fit the defensive scheme of the team that selects him. He can stand up and play outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme, where he can focus on purely rushing the quarterback each play. In the run game, he is effective and can set the edge nicely against an offensive tackle, but has a difficult time getting to the ball if he is engaged early. Curry has second-round value.



Strengths Curry is quick off the ball when he is focused on rushing the passer, and he can set up tackles nicely by leaning them one way and dipping the opposite. He understands how to set up and work his moves throughout the duration of the game, and can get into the backfield and rush a quarterback. Once he gets a lane, he shows an amazing burst to finish the play and get to the quarterback. On run plays and against quarterbacks alike, he is reliable and explosive. He has polished technique at the position and uses his hands well to keep blockers at bay. Although he gives up size to NFL-caliber offensive linemen, he is able to hold his ground and set the edge when necessary to allow his linebackers to make plays. His natural athletic ability is evident and the key to every play that he makes.

Weaknesses Curry can struggle at times and look out-of-place in the run game. He understands his role in the defense, but once engaged he has a difficult time getting in on any action, as he has trouble locating the ball. He has to show that he has the instincts to react and be involved late in the play once it is already away from him.



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The Ratbirds select....


Kelechi Osemele/T/Iowa St.


Osemele will need strong coaching, but could to be a dominant lineman based off his production at Iowa State. He has great athletic ability and gets off the line very quickly. He understands blocking with angles and within a scheme, and has the upper strength to keep on his blocks once he gets to them. Very rarely do defenders release themselves from his blocks, and if he can learn to get to the block sooner at the NFL level, he can be a stalwart for years to come. His potential as a go-to run blocker for the next decade could find him selected as early as the first round.



Strengths Osemele is an extremely strong, natural run blocker. He is explosive off the line and can visibly jolt defenders back. Once engaged, he can ignite a powerful leg drive to keep defenders at bay. If Osemele can learn to play with consistency and channel his explosiveness, he could be an overwhelming blocker who is dominant at the next level.

Weaknesses Osemele is somewhat raw and can disappear for stretches. He is highly effective once engaged, but has had trouble sticking onto blocks in the first place against more athletic players. He has to take better angles at the second level. He is not a pure tackle and may have more value at guard, which may make some teams wonder if he is worth the time and early-round investment as a project when they have an immediate need to fill.



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The 49ers select.....

LaMichael James/RB/Oregon


James had a decorated career at Oregon and started all but two games after redshirting in 2007. An invitee to the Heisman Trophy presentation the past two years, James has been the most electric and productive player on a very impressive offense. He was an ideal fit for the unique zone blocking scheme run by Chip Kelly and has shown many traits that are transferable to the NFL. Teams could get hung up on his size, but he has shown quality traits on a consistent basis.



Strengths James is a quick and decisive back who looks like his motive is to be productive each time the ball touches his hands. He can get to full speed quickly off the snap and doesn't hesitate when hitting the line of scrimmage. He is capable of making splash plays out of nothing. He is a better runner between the tackles than his frame would suggest, as he uses a quick shuffle to avoid trash or get up and into an open lane. Once through the line, he can make things happen on his own downfield, and routinely had runs of 20-plus yards at Oregon. He is always a threat to score, and has the foot quickness and breakout speed to get the edge at the next level.

Weaknesses James had fumbling issues throughout his career that weren't helped by a dislocated elbow midway through his junior season. He looks conscious of keeping the ball high and tight to his frame, and he has very good all-around strength, but he doesn't have the arm strength to secure the ball when big hits are put on him. He is a willing and technical blocker in pass protection but simply doesn't have the bulk or anchor to be successful here early at the next level.



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The Packers select.....



Casey Hayward/DB/Vanderbilt


Hayward is a highly regarded corner out of Vanderbilt. Although his team has had little success throughout his career, playing in the heart of the Southeastern Conference has put Hayward up against top talent every week, and he has made plays consistently for the Commodores. He can run with any receiver in the SEC and has shown that he can play physically at the line of scrimmage to disrupt receivers' routes. He brings a confident mentality that he can cover anyone in single coverage given the competition he faced each week in his conference. He has third-round talent.



Strengths Hayward can diagnose plays and be in position from the get-go. He will be physical when reacting to pass plays and has the speed to cover for extended periods of time in man coverage. He is a lanky player who can extend and secure interceptions when covering close. He is a reliable tackler when around the ball.

Weaknesses Hayward is a decent player in zone looks but not the quickest reactor. He trusts his speed too much at times, which can get him in trouble when he plays too far off the receiver. He is a smooth athlete but not very quick twitched.



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The NY Giants select......


Rueben Randle/WR/ LSU

Randle is an early-entry junior who has become a late riser in this year's class. He was limited by inconsistent LSU quarterback play all year. He is an impressive athlete.



Strengths Randle is a tall receiver who displays good balance throughout his route and leans on his defender well to create separation. He is learning how to work routes downfield and is a strong catcher of both high and low balls. He has good flexibility and really came along as a junior with his overall field awareness and ability to diagnose coverages to find his spots in zones.

Weaknesses Randle is still developing many of his skills and will be more of a prospect. He still looked uncomfortable running some routes and isn't to a point where he is actively thinking about how to sell his corner on every play. He will take his eye off the ball across the middle and is inconsistent with his physicality.



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The 49ers select.....

LaMichael James/RB/Oregon


I like this pick. Gore is slowing down and James has supersonic speed.



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Round 2 Over

Round 3 Begins


I will not be posting each selection like the first 2 rounds.


Feel free to add comments as the draft goes along.


What was Seattle thinking?  Damn!





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stingmark wrote: Jesus christ I want to punch some of these fuckin fans who keep booing everyone & everything, stfu already.

It was ridiculous this year.  These fans are getting more retarded each year.



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The Rams have pretty much drafted a whole new team in the first two rounds, and lol @ the Jags for taking a punter in round 3.



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stingmark wrote: Jesus christ I want to punch some of these fuckin fans who keep booing everyone & everything, stfu already.

It was ridiculous this year.  These fans are getting more retarded each year.


Im glad I wasnt the only one to notice it. It was so ridiculous, youre right. I think some team made a great & the stupid fucking fans booed.



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sek69 wrote:
The Rams have pretty much drafted a whole new team in the first two rounds, and lol @ the Jags for taking a punter in round 3.


Yep, they had a ton of picks & used them well.



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The Saints have made some great picks so far.

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You can sound off and tell us what you think of your team's draft through three rounds.

I think the Steelers did very good according to how it looks on paper. 

The DeCastro is solid, and I see this guy being around for at least 10 years.

Mike Adams is a worrisome pick.  The guy is a repeat offender and seems to have problems with maturity and just being undisciplined.  This type of personality and attitude could spill over into many areas.  There are some insiders saying that he will not be with the Steelers three years from now.  The Steelers are really going to have to try and mentor this guy.  I did not like the Santonio Holmes pick for these same reasons when he was selected.  He had a trunk full of reported and unreported baggage and it could not be bridled even after the Steelers made him a part of their team. 

Sean Spence was the Third round pick, and the Steelers have already made it clear that he will be an ILB.  I think he can flourish on special teams and possibly as nickel guy who can be brought into cover guys like Ray Rice out of the backfield and tight ends, but I am not sure he was worthy of the third Round pick. He seems like a faster version of Larry Foote, and Foote gets blown up at the LOS most of the time because he is too light.

I thought Alameda Ta'Amu would be the Third Round pick.  He is still on the board.  I think with the right management he would be a nice replacement for "The Big Snack" Casey Hampton. 

The draft would get an A on paper, but it could turn into a C or D real fast depending on how these guys pan out.



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Papa Voo wrote: You can sound off and tell us what you think of your team's draft through three rounds.

I think the Steelers did very good according to how it looks on paper. 

The DeCastro is solid, and I see this guy being around for at least 10 years.

Mike Adams is a worrisome pick.  The guy is a repeat offender and seems to have problems with maturity and just being undisciplined.  This type of personality and attitude could spill over into many areas.  There are some insiders saying that he will not be with the Steelers three years from now.  The Steelers are really going to have to try and mentor this guy.  I did not like the Santonio Holmes pick for these same reasons when he was selected.  He had a trunk full of reported and unreported baggage and it could not be bridled even after the Steelers made him a part of their team. 

Sean Spence was the Third round pick, and the Steelers have already made it clear that he will be an ILB.  I think he can flourish on special teams and possibly as nickel guy who can be brought into cover guys like Ray Rice out of the backfield and tight ends, but I am not sure he was worthy of the third Round pick. He seems like a faster version of Larry Foote, and Foote gets blown up at the LOS most of the time because he is too light.

I thought Alameda Ta'Amu would be the Third Round pick.  He is still on the board.  I think with the right management he would be a nice replacement for "The Big Snack" Casey Hampton. 

The draft would get an A on paper, but it could turn into a C or D real fast depending on how these guys pan out.

That's the thing. You can't fairly grade a draft class until 2-3 years down the line. Right now all you can look at is teams needs and the perceived value of each player in the spot they were chosen.

For the Packers, the needed to fortify their front seven, which they did with Perry and Worthy. They also needed help in the secondary, and they got Heyward.

The Packers had a lot of picks in this draft, and I like that they were aggressive in moving up to get the players they wanted.

All the players chosen look like they can come in and contribute right away, in areas of need, so it looks like a good draft thus far.

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