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 Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2012 02:10 am
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Any news on Matthew Stafford's injury?



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yellowdog wrote: Benlen wrote: yellowdog wrote:




The Titans tried that earlier in the day and batted the ball right into a Lions players hands.

well you can't be a dumb shit about it. 

And you can't control the other guys coming at you that might catch it.  Batting it down is just as dangerous as trying to intercept it.  It happened last year on the big hail mary play by the Jags on a last second play.

The "replay officials" are the regular crew by the way. Unbelievable!
Not only was the replay official a regular crew, he's also a complete fuckup.

See below from ProFootballTalk -

In nearly 11 years of this website’s existence, no game has created a stronger reaction than Monday night’s debacle in Seattle.
Coincidentally, the only other game that created similar buzz also involved the Seahawks.  It was Super Bowl XL, which left the Seahawks feeling chagrined by a string of questionable calls, prompting among other things the creation of officiating jerseys that weren’t black and white, but black and yellow.
But that game didn’t entail an error that directly and clearly determined the outcome.  Few NFL games turn on such a bright-line moment.  And one of the men involved in last night’s game had a direct hand (literally and figuratively) in a game-changing decision that involved, well, a piece of change.
Phil Luckett, the man who bungled the overtime coin toss in a Thanksgiving 1998 game between the Steelers and Lions, was the league supervisor in the replay booth for the game between the Packers and the Seahawks, according to Peter King of SI.com.  The Seahawks likewise know that name, because Luckett was the referee on the crew that incorrectly gave Jets quarterback Vinny Testaverde a game-winning touchdown against the Seahawks, not long after the Steelers-Lions morass.
As we explained several weeks ago, the NFL is using a league supervisor for every regular-season game officiated by replacements.  It’s a procedure that the league normally uses during the postseason.
The league supervisor now sits in the replay booth.  Which means that Luckett was change-purse deep in the decision to not overturn the ruling on the field of a touchdown.
As NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos explained, both during Pro Football Talk on NBC Sports Network and PFT Live on the web, the league supervisor and the replay official — neither of whom are replacements — are directly involved in the replay decisions.  It’s a procedure that doesn’t apply under normal circumstances, with the regular officials on the field and the regular referee going under the hood.
Thus, for three of the most notorious game-deciding errors in recent NFL history, Luckett was involved.  That was bad luck for the Steelers in 1998, bad luck for the Seahawks later that year, but good luck for the Seahawks on Monday night.

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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/story/2012/09/25/vegas-sports-books-bet-youll-still-bet-on-nfl/57842322/1

The expert consensus is that legal wagering on NFL games is up 20-25% this season from last season, and that trend will continue as long as people believe the replacements are merely unqualified, not cheaters.

Vegas is loving this..making money hand over fist, just like the NFL owners are...



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Eventually, fans will start to tune out though.  It has to happen. 

I wonder how loud the uproar would be if this same crew from Monday was sent to the next Green Bay game 

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mike3775 wrote: Eventually, fans will start to tune out though.  It has to happen. 

I wonder how loud the uproar would be if this same crew from Monday was sent to the next Green Bay game 

I'm not sure of that.  There's talk that ratings will actually increase with all of this, due to folks that don't always watch, doing so just to see how bad it really gets.

On a bright note, talks are going well.  PFT just reported that the NFL and the Refs have agreed to terms for replacement refs/training going forward.  The only other sticking point now is the issue with a pension vs. 401K plan.  Mostly, for retired officials.

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mike3775 wrote:
Eventually, fans will start to tune out though.  It has to happen. 

No it doesn't. It won't happen. I bet ratings not only hold steady but are UP this season when it's all said and done.



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I can't believe a respected outfit like PFT is clinging to the "Luckett botched the coin toss" horseshit story. Jerome Bettis fucked up, not Luckett.

Last edited on Wed Sep 26th, 2012 02:43 pm by PeteF3

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srossi wrote: This is now a campaign issue as both Obama and Ryan embarrass themselves by talking about this garbage, but they both agree that it's time to get the real refs back.

Obama: ''There was a real problem with that call.  It was terrible.  I've been saying for months we've got to get our refs back.  NFL fans on both sides of the aisle hope the refs' lockout is settled soon.  (The replacement refs) have been put in a tough situation.  But the fact is this is a fast, tough game to control.  And it doesn't make sense to me for a league that's been so successful not to want to put their very best out there.''



Obama needs Wisconsin.

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Rumors everywhere the old refs might be back by the weekend.

Found this on FB. It's pretty funny.  

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beejmi wrote:


I saw one just like this with JaMarcus Russell. :D



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Real refs starting tonight  :)

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LOL, those 'memes' (or whatever they are called) are funny - love the 3 stooges one

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mike3775 wrote: Real refs starting tonight  :)

Not at all surprised.  Anyone who thought the NFL wasn't feeling the pressure after that call in particular is kidding themselves.  The NFL takes themselves way too seriously to be okay with being laughed at, no matter how much money they're making.  What they paid is a drop in the bucket to restore some integrity and goodwill.



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