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Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out. 


Unless the regular refs are ready to give in, they aren't coming back. Goodell can't do shit, it's the owners that are doing this and they aren't giving in as long as ratings are sky high and the money is rolling in.

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srossi wrote: Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out.


Not that outrageous. You keep them on the job and by week fifteen they'll be alot better. I'm playing "devil's advocate" of course but I could see that happening and that thought process.

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beejmi wrote: srossi wrote: Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out.


Not that outrageous. You keep them on the job and by week fifteen they'll be alot better. I'm playing "devil's advocate" of course but I could see that happening and that thought process.

Except they're getting worse.  I think there's a snowball effect now with the refs taking so much criticism and being so disrespected by everyone and getting so gun-shy that they're choking under the mounting pressure.  I think it was a really cool thing for them at first, and now I bet a lot of them just want to go home.  Football fans are nuts, to say nothing of the gamblers.  I wouldn't be surprised if there are some serious death threats soon.

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beejmi wrote:
srossi wrote: Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out.


Not that outrageous. You keep them on the job and by week fifteen they'll be alot better. I'm playing "devil's advocate" of course but I could see that happening and that thought process.


You are correct. Why should the owners cave now? Like you said, they are eventually going to get a little better, you've got the entire viewing world pissed off yet the ratings are still sky high..the owners should just ride this out, the longer it goes, the more the regular officials will start to cave..IMO the owners would be foolish to cave now..



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srossi wrote:

Except they're getting worse. 


Overall they aren't. You get a huge blown play like last night, yes, but overall, the percentage of penalties called are about the same as last season. The only reason this is as big as it is now is the guys calling the games now are going out of their way to rip into EVERY call they do, whether it's right or not...Collinsworth was the worst Sunday, even when they got a call 100% correct he was going "Ohhhh, I don't know...I mean, this is ridiculous.." blah blah blah..



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Married Jo wrote: beejmi wrote:
srossi wrote: Chris OtL wrote: I would expect the real refs back next week. The replacement refs just cost a team a game.

I imagine this would do it.  If they're not back next week, they won't be back all season.  I was rooting for the replacement refs, but it didn't work out.


Not that outrageous. You keep them on the job and by week fifteen they'll be alot better. I'm playing "devil's advocate" of course but I could see that happening and that thought process.


You are correct. Why should the owners cave now? Like you said, they are eventually going to get a little better, you've got the entire viewing world pissed off yet the ratings are still sky high..the owners should just ride this out, the longer it goes, the more the regular officials will start to cave..IMO the owners would be foolish to cave now..
They'll cave now because the league is being completely humiliated.


Because of the LFL’s perception it is that much more critical for us to hire officiating crews that are competent, not only for the credibility of our game but to keep our athletes safer. Due to several on-field incompetent officiating we chose to part ways with with a couple crews which apparently are now officiating in the NFL. We have a lot of respect for our officials but we felt the officiating was not in line with our expectations.
We have not made public comment to date because we felt it was not our place to do so. However in light of tonight’s event, we felt it was only fair that NFL fans knew the truth as to who are officiating these games.

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They are only humiliated if the ratings and the live gate drops. Until they do, like I said, they could give a shit.



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You think this doesn't bother them? A gambling site has more integrity than the NFL does right now.





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Chris OtL wrote:
You think this doesn't bother them?

Fuck no it doesn't bother them.



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Chris OtL wrote: You think this doesn't bother them? A gambling site has more integrity than the NFL does right now.






Wow, never thought I would see that.



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"We've refunded your wager in the form of a free play"...

So technically, they didn't refund dick..



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Anyone who thinks the NFL will see this as any kind of "breaking point" is fooling themselves. The owners have, as Steve Young pointed out after the Falcons-Broncos MNF game last week, a product with an inelastic demand curve. (Watching Stu Scott try to follow Young discussing inelasticity in demand was worth the price of admission, which is listening to Jon Gruden talk.) As such, they have no real concern about 1) the integrity of the play on the field, or 2) player safety, or 3) anything else they might jack off to the media about. They have a product that's going to sell tickets regardless. They have $3 billion guaranteed from the TV rights. They could give a flying fuck about how bad the scab refs are. Their *only* interest is in breaking the officials' union, and their only interest in that is blind, ideological hatred of unions by a bunch of billionaires living off of publicly funded stadiums and various other forms of the corporate-welfare dole.

This also speaks to the terribleness of American football fans. MLB tried to use scab players in 1995, and baseball fans simply weren't going to attend the games. The owners had to call it off. The scab games in the '80s in the NFL drew well enough on TV and in the stadiums that the Players' Union had to give in.

Football fans have only themselves to blame for all of this.

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Funny one of the issues is the owners want to fire bad refs.



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No surprise to read this.


NFL STATEMENT ON FINAL PLAY
OF GREEN BAY PACKERS-SEATTLE SEAHAWKS GAME
In Monday's game between the Green Bay Packers and Seattle Seahawks, Seattle faced a 4th-and-10 from the Green Bay 24 with eight seconds remaining in the game.
Seattle quarterback Russell Wilson threw a pass into the end zone. Several players, including Seattle wide receiver Golden Tate and Green Bay safety M.D. Jennings, jumped into the air in an attempt to catch the ball.
While the ball is in the air, Tate can be seen shoving Green Bay cornerback Sam Shields to the ground. This should have been a penalty for offensive pass interference, which would have ended the game. It was not called and is not reviewable in instant replay.
When the players hit the ground in the end zone, the officials determined that both Tate and Jennings had possession of the ball. Under the rule for simultaneous catch, the ball belongs to Tate, the offensive player. The result of the play was a touchdown.
Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.
Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review.
The result of the game is final.


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Fun NFL rule excerpt: "It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control."

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Once again the mighty cock of King Roger slaps across everyone's faces.

Is he worse than Bettman yet?



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