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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 05:27 pm |
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dogfacedgremlin34 Will Kick Your Ass At Fantasy Football 
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stingmark wrote: I thought he was a gold glover for the Marlins (it was a silver slugger that he has 3 of) Did you seriously just confuse a Gold Glove with a Silver Slugger?
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 05:28 pm |
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thunderbolt Hall Of Famer 
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PeteF3 wrote: ::scratches head:: Who's calling Trout a HOFer? Thank goodness somebody gets it. This was making my head hurt. Cabrera may very well win MVP, but my only point is that, factoring every aspect of the game of baseball, Trout is for this season and at this moment, a better PLAYER. Comparing the two is like comparing Boog Powell to Mickey Mantle.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 05:29 pm |
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stingmark
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dogfacedgremlin34 wrote: stingmark wrote:I thought he was a gold glover for the Marlins (it was a silver slugger that he has 3 of) Yes, I did...pardon me for not knowing every award Cabrera has won. I assumed he'd won a gg with the marlins...
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 05:33 pm |
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stingmark
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thunderbolt wrote: PeteF3 wrote:::scratches head:: Who's calling Trout a HOFer? No one said anything about Trout not being a better overall player THIS year than Cabrera. Overall, he's definltey better in a few categories. The question though, was about the TC, and as it pertains to that(and ONLY that), Cabrera has had the better year offensively(which is what the TC is based on). Thats all I've been saying. Cabrera will win the TC & most likely the MVP too. Title of the thread isnt "who's the better player overall between the two in 2012", it's about the TC, and who do we think will win it, between Cabrera and Trout, I said Cabrera, and people freaked out. Freak out when they give the TC to Carbera, maybe some here can start an "Occupy TC" Movement or a 'sit in" to protest it not going to Trout? Last edited on Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 05:34 pm by stingmark ____________________ "I went to the #6th ranked liberal Arts College in California, I'm smarter than anyone else"(Also found out to be a formerly racist institution-Jeff Forsyth) |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 06:13 pm |
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lobo316
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mike3775 wrote: Trout became the first rookie to be a member of the 30/30 club He'll win ROY award, so the voters will give the MVP award to Miggy.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 07:04 pm |
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CanadianHorseman
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I don't think this has been mentiioned yet but let's not forget that Ted Williams won the Triple Crown twice ( 1942 and 1947 ) and didn't win the AL MVP either year. 1942 Joe Gordon - NY Yankees ( 270 MVP voting points ) Ted Williams - Boston Red Sox ( 249 MVP voting points ) Williams scored 53 more runs, had 13 more hits, had 18 more HRs, had 34 more RBI and outhit Gordon .356 to .322 I'm guessing the voters gave Gordon more votes as the Yankees won the AL Pennant by 9 games over Boston. 1947 Joe DiMaggio - NY Yankees ( 202 MVP voting points ) Ted Williams - Boston Red Sox ( 201 MVP voting points ) Williams scored 28 more runs, had 13 more hits, had 12 more HRs, had 17 more RBI and outhit DiMaggio .343 to .315 Once again the voters must have given winning the AL Pennant a lot of credence as Boston finished in 3rd place 14 games behind the Yankees. One other thing to keep in mind - the last 3 Triple Crown winners ( Mickey Mantle in 1956, Frank Robinson in 1966 and Carl Yastrezemski in 1967 ) all won the AL MVP award the same year.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 07:24 pm |
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lobo316 wrote: mike3775 wrote:He should win that easily. Not so sure on Harper in the NL thoughTrout became the first rookie to be a member of the 30/30 club
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 07:28 pm |
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mike3775
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CanadianHorseman wrote: I don't think this has been mentiioned yet but let's not forget that Ted Williams won the Triple Crown twice ( 1942 and 1947 ) and didn't win the AL MVP either year.To be fair though, in the early 1940's, there wasn't much emphasis put on the triple crown. It wasn't until the mid 1940's that writers and the media started to hype the triple crown. Plus they always place a higher emphasis on teams making the playoffs over anything else. Not many MVP's do not make the playoffs with that award
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 07:43 pm |
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lobo316
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mike3775 wrote: CanadianHorseman wrote:I don't think this has been mentiioned yet but let's not forget that Ted Williams won the Triple Crown twice ( 1942 and 1947 ) and didn't win the AL MVP either year.To be fair though, in the early 1940's, there wasn't much emphasis put on the triple crown. It wasn't until the mid 1940's that writers and the media started to hype the triple crown. Actually, the writers hated Williams (and he them). Not voting for Williams was their way of screwing him.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 08:50 pm |
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lobo316 wrote: mike3775 wrote:CanadianHorseman wrote:I don't think this has been mentiioned yet but let's not forget that Ted Williams won the Triple Crown twice ( 1942 and 1947 ) and didn't win the AL MVP either year.To be fair though, in the early 1940's, there wasn't much emphasis put on the triple crown. It wasn't until the mid 1940's that writers and the media started to hype the triple crown. One of those years, a writer left him out of the top 10. Even a 10th place vote by that one writer would've gotten him the MVP. He just wouldn't vote for him because of his pettiness.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 09:12 pm |
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CanadianHorseman
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's similar to what happened to Ray Bourque during the 1989-90 season. Bourque and Mark Messier were the top 2 candidates for the Hart Memorial Trophy ( NHL MVP ) and Messier ended up winning by just a few points. Later it was revealed that an Edmonton sports writer did not put Bourque in his top 10 list when even a 9th place vote would have resulted in a tie and a 8th place vote would have given the award to Bourque. 
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| Posted: Wed Oct 3rd, 2012 09:34 pm |
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stingmark
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lobo316 wrote: mike3775 wrote:Trout became the first rookie to be a member of the 30/30 club He should win the ROY award, no question. He had a great year, he just had it when someone else had a better one.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 4th, 2012 01:54 am |
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Cory17
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CanadianHorseman wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I never knew this, Moose all the way though! At least Bourque managed to help Boston win 1 game of the finals in '90. Plus the power stayed on all series at the Gardens!
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| Posted: Thu Oct 4th, 2012 02:09 am |
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CanadianHorseman
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Cory17 wrote:CanadianHorseman wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ah SHADDUP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Posted: Thu Oct 4th, 2012 04:15 am |
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Principal_Raditch
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stingmark wrote: Principal_Raditch wrote:You're only look at Offence though. Trout's a gold glover, Cabrera might be the worst 3b in MLB. So Offensively Cabrera has a slight advantage. On the basepaths, Trout has a massive advantage. Defensively Trout has a massive advantage. It's a close call. Then how did Jimmy Rollins win the MVP with shittier offensive numbers than at least 4 other players in 2007? I was talking about winning an MVP based on overall ability, not TC. Last edited on Thu Oct 4th, 2012 04:19 am by Principal_Raditch |
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