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 Posted: Fri Jan 4th, 2013 12:31 am
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Road Warrior Yajuta wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Cleveland has a decent defense.

That pick of QB Brandon Weeden in the First Round was just ridiculous.  This screwed the offense up for any future head coach. 

I do not think Cleveland is as bad off as some think.  The offense needs overhauled starting with Weeden unless some new coach can make him somewhat successful.   Richardson should give them a decent running game, but they need to vastly improve the passing offense and you need a good QB to do that.
They need WRs as well.  Richardson, Alex Mack, and Joe Thomas are the only quality players they have on Offense.  That team is bereft of talented skill position players.  Their defense is middle of the pack.  That team has just been a wasteland since they came back.


I agree with you, but I do not think it is blow-it-up and start over scenario, either.   The receiving corps definitely needs upgraded, but you also need a QB to get the ball to them, and I was not really impressed with Weeden, even though he was a rookie.  He looked to me like he is going to be a middle-roader at best sort of Tim couch all over, again.  He really does not have time to mature since he is 29 years old already.  Like I said, the offense needs to be overhauled in regards to the passing game, but the poor draft selections may have painted themselves in a corner.

Phil Taylor, Ahyyba Rubin, D'Quell Jackson, Joe Haden on defense are some guys to build around for a strong defense.



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Arians and Cutler......that would be a match made in heaven.



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Papa Voo wrote: Arians and Cutler......that would be a match made in heaven.

Bears are interviewing Arians and the Bears in recent years have hired people without previous head coaching experience. Ditka was a special teams coach. Wannstedt was a defensive coordinator. So was Jauron. And Lovie too.

Arians was intertim head coach for most of the year. I really have no idea what current Bears GM Phil Emery will do. 



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Out here they are reporting Andy Reid has chosen Kansas City.



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I don't have any rooting interest in the Bears one way or another, nor do I think Lovie was the next Lombardi, but firing coaches doesn't seem to address what seems to be their most obvious flaw: not having a quarterback worth two shits for what seems like forever.



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sek69 wrote: I don't have any rooting interest in the Bears one way or another, nor do I think Lovie was the next Lombardi, but firing coaches doesn't seem to address what seems to be their most obvious flaw: not having a quarterback worth two shits for what seems like forever.I think Cutler could be a decent QB for them, if he wasn't being hit or chased down all the time.  He has shown if given protection, he can be decent, its just that Oline gives him zero protection most of the time

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mike3775 wrote:
sek69 wrote: I don't have any rooting interest in the Bears one way or another, nor do I think Lovie was the next Lombardi, but firing coaches doesn't seem to address what seems to be their most obvious flaw: not having a quarterback worth two shits for what seems like forever.I think Cutler could be a decent QB for them, if he wasn't being hit or chased down all the time.  He has shown if given protection, he can be decent, its just that Oline gives him zero protection most of the time


Cutler's not the issue. That line and Arizona's were the two worst in the NFL, and I'd take AZ's over Chicagos.



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HBF wrote: mike3775 wrote:
sek69 wrote: I don't have any rooting interest in the Bears one way or another, nor do I think Lovie was the next Lombardi, but firing coaches doesn't seem to address what seems to be their most obvious flaw: not having a quarterback worth two shits for what seems like forever.I think Cutler could be a decent QB for them, if he wasn't being hit or chased down all the time.  He has shown if given protection, he can be decent, its just that Oline gives him zero protection most of the time


Cutler's not the issue. That line and Arizona's were the two worst in the NFL, and I'd take AZ's over Chicagos.


Cutler may not be THE only issue but he is most certainly one of the issues.  Overrated as hell.

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It's hard to tell how good Cutler is or isn't because the offensive line is so bad. That being said. Aaron Rodgers gets it done with a bad offensive line.



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clawmaster wrote: Ron Rivera has not officially been whacked in Carolina.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/04/ron-rivera-jerry-richardson-meeting-on-saturday/

Ron Rivera, Jerry Richardson meeting on Saturday
Posted by Josh Alper on January 4, 2013, 10:28 AM EST

The Panthers are putting together a list of general manager candidates, which now reportedly includes Titans vice president of player personnel Lake Dawson, but their head coach still hasn’t met with the team’s owner to talk about the 2012 season.

According to Joseph Person of the Charlotte Observer, that meeting will take place on Saturday. Ron Rivera and owner Jerry Richardson are expected to sit down to discuss Rivera’s future with the team. Rivera’s status has been in question ever since the Panthers fired General Manager Marty Hurney, but his team did finish the year with five wins in the final six games and four straight at the end of the year to wind up with a better record than he had in 2011.

How much playing out the string at that pace will impact Richardson’s decision remains to be seen, but it does suggest that Rivera was still able to find a way to elicit a strong effort from his players. An even bigger question is whether Richardson would make keeping Rivera as the coach for at least one more year would become a precondition for any G.M. candidates if the owner does decide to keep Rivera around.

We should know more after the weekend about who will be on the sideline for the Panthers in 2013.



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Andy Reid to KC is official per ESPN.com.

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nyhack56 wrote: Andy Reid to KC is official per ESPN.com.

Great job by his agent by the way. Earlier in the week reported that Andy and Arizona were close [attempted nudge of KC that worked] Then he talks to KC and he was "close" there for a day or so[attempted nudge that nobody else bites on]

If he was "in demand" he would have still at least talked to San Diego or Chicago.

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nyhack56 wrote: Andy Reid to KC is official per ESPN.com.
...and that POS Scott Pioli out. I dunno what impact Reid will make, but after watching Pioli, Haley and Crennel fuck this team up here the last 4 years I'll take some kind of rebuilding.

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nyhack56 wrote: Andy Reid to KC is official per ESPN.com.

out of the fire into the frying pan.  KC needs a QB and Andy has only had success with Donovan McNabb and failed miserable at replacing him save for 6-8 Vick games.  Where's Lenny Dawson when you need him?

 

 



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Andy started in Philly by drafting McNabb and then starting Doug Pederson until McNabb was ready.

So -- Andy drafts a QB and brings McNabb aboard to play the "Pederson" role.

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