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 Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2013 04:36 am
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Okay, can somebody in layman terms explain to me how a baseball player trade has to be cleared through waivers?



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Papa Voo wrote: Okay, can somebody in layman terms explain to me how a baseball player trade has to be cleared through waivers?



After the trade deadline you  put a player on waivers. If some team claims him you either let him go to that team , trade him to that team or pull him off of waivers and he returns to your team.

If he clears waivers you can trade him to any team.



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Papa Voo wrote:
Okay, can somebody in layman terms explain to me how a baseball player trade has to be cleared through waivers?


Let's say the White Sox want to trade Alexei Ramirez to the Pirates after July 31.

The Sox put Alexei on revocable waivers. Each team in baseball, starting from worst record in the AL to best, and then worst record in the NL to best, will be given a certain number of hours to claim him.

If Alexei passes through without any claims, then he has "cleared" waivers, and the Sox can trade him to any team they can make a deal with to the end of the season (although if he is not traded by Sept 1, he is not eligibe for post season). The Sox could make a trade then with the Pirates.

However, here is where it can get complicated. Let's say the Cubs claim Alexei on waivers. At that point, three things can happen. #1, the Sox can say, ok, he is yours, and the Cubs would get Alexei and his contract, no questions asked. #2, the Sox could pull him back off waivers and say, sorry, we would like to keep him (this happens 99% of the time). Or, #3, the Sox can tell the Cubs they can have Alexei but they must work out a trade for him within 48 hours.

Make sense?



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The danger nowadays is that many teams are trying to unload veteran guys with terrible contracts, so you have to be careful on who you claim in waivers...as the team who put the big contract on waivers may say, "ok, go ahead and take him!" instead of pulling him back.



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Blazer wrote: The danger nowadays is that many teams are trying to unload veteran guys with terrible contracts, so you have to be careful on who you claim in waivers...as the team who put the big contract on waivers may say, "ok, go ahead and take him!" instead of pulling him back.

 

That's how the Jays got rid of Alex Rios.

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Thanks

Damn, we still need some bats in this lineup.



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That is how the Phils picked up Jamie Moyer in 06. Despite having a FB that didn't break 81, he won more than 50 games for the Phils over 5 years and had the most wins during the regular season of 08 with 16. That was the year the Phils won the series. Without him, they wouldn't have been there. A great waiver wire move by Pat Gillick.

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Papa Voo wrote:
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Damn, we still need some bats in this lineup.


A couple of Phils could be put on waivers like Michael Young.

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I found this over on the CBS Sports site which should clear up your questions.



Up until July 31 at 4 p.m. ET of each baseball season, it's essentially free-trade zone. Yes, the commissioner's office has to approve, but otherwise the obstacles are minimal.

In August, it's a bit more difficult. Someone like Michael Young of the Phillies is a good candidate to be moved in August. Here's how it works, for those unaware -- using Young as an example:

- He must be placed on waivers. This isn't made public and lots of players go through the waivers process at any given time during any given season.

- If more than one team places a claim on Young, the one with the worse (or worst, if more than two teams total place a claim) record in the National League wins. If no NL teams claim him, it goes to the American League and again follows the worst-to-best record method to determine which team wins the claim.

- If a claim is awarded, the Phillies have three options. They could pull him back -- as they did last year when the Dodgers claimed Cliff Lee -- agree to a trade within two business days or just let the claiming club have him. In the latter case, the claiming team gets the rest of Young's contract (which is $16 million this year, prorated for how many games are remaining on the schedule at the time).

- If Young clears waivers, he can be traded to anyone -- just as is the case before July 31 at 4 p.m. ET. Most players that are moved in August have cleared waivers. For example, the blockbuster trade last August that had the Red Sox sending Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford and Nick Punto to the Dodgers was done after all the players had cleared waivers.



As with pretty much everything in Major League Baseball, there are more details involved in actually making the deals, but that's for the front office people to worry about. All we need to know is the above. Just plug in any player who might be dealt in the above paragraphs for Young and you have your answer as to how it can happen.



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There used to be a "Gentleman's Agreement" not to claim the guys, so they could be traded.

In the late 80s/early 90s the Tigers tried to trade Frank Tanana to the Angels as they were battling the A's.

The A's claimed him off waivers to block the trade, and the Tigers kept him. This kind of set the precedent for blocking post-deadline trades. After that it was a bit harder to pull it off.



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