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He proved this year (and previously, hell, his starting record for Philly before this season was 15-9) he can play. Yes, he went to that dumpster fire at the time in St. Louis,  so I won't hold his stats there against him. He showed this season with good coaching and the right team he CAN get it done. So what happens with him next season? 



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He backs up Wentz on the Eagles next season. Then he leaves via Free Agency, unless they trade him at the deadline the way the Pats did with Garroppolo.

Eagles would be insane to deal him now - there is zero guarantee that Wentz will be 100% in November, nevermind opening week.



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There's less loyalty in football than in any other sport.  Just look how much turnover there's been on the Patriots, and they win every year.  Guys also have shorter shelf lives in football than in any other sport and go from HOF-quality to completely unable to play within 1 year all the time. 

All of the QBs are unsigned from what I understand, so it'll come down to money.  My guess is someone overpays Foles and he has a mediocre season elsewhere.



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Traded to Cleveland. Never wins another football game.



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srossi wrote: There's less loyalty in football than in any other sport.  Just look how much turnover there's been on the Patriots, and they win every year.  Guys also have shorter shelf lives in football than in any other sport and go from HOF-quality to completely unable to play within 1 year all the time. 

All of the QBs are unsigned from what I understand, so it'll come down to money.  My guess is someone overpays Foles and he has a mediocre season elsewhere.

Foles is under contract at $7.6 million salary.  There's no way they trade him unless they get offered the sun, moon, and stars.  Especially when they aren't sure that Wentz will be ready.



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Eagles Open To Trading QB Nick Foles


February 4th, 2018 at 2:59pm CST by Dallas Robinson
The Eagles are expected to receive trade interest in quarterback Nick Foles this offseason, and they’re open to dealing their backup signal-caller for the right price, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL.com (video link).
Following Carson Wentz‘s ACL tear, Foles led Philadelphia to a 2-1 record during the final three games of the regular season, and posted five touchdowns against two interceptions during that time. The 29-year-old Foles further stepped up his performance during the Eagles’ first two postseason contests, as he’s managed a 77.8% completion rate, three touchdowns, and no picks.


Although the 2018 quarterback market boasts several competent alternatives, Foles would offer a cheap stop-gap option. While he’s technically signed through 2021, the 2019-21 campaigns are void years. An acquiring club would be picking up Foles for only one season (barring an extension), during which he’d earn a $4MM base salary ($3MM of which is fully guaranteed) and a $3MM roster bonus. The Eagles would take on the remaining signing bonus proration of Foles’ contract, which amounts to $2.4MM.


It’s unclear what kind of return Philadelphia could hope to reap in exchange for Foles. While he’s been successful over the past month or so, Foles’ career track record is consistent with that of an average-to-below-average quarterback. Just last offseason, Foles hit the open market and was only able to land a backup job. The Eagles and general manager Howie Roseman, for their part, have been extremely active in the trade market over the past few years, and have expressed an openness for deals that include either draft picks or other established players.


The key benefit for Philadelphia in a Foles trade would be removing his salary cap charge from its 2018 books. At present, the Eagles are a projected $9.5MM over the cap next season, so clearing $5.2MM by trading Foles would be the club’s first step towards getting right with the cap.



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The Eagles are gearing up for Super Bowl LII tonight, but their prospects for next season got a nice boost this morning. Ian Rapoport of NFL.com reports that, this Wednesday, Carson Wentz will begin weight-bearing exercises with his brace unlocked for the first time since being placed on injured reserve. That marks a big milestone in Wentz’s recovery, because when he is able to begin weight-bearing exercises, his recovery can proceed as if he had torn only his ACL instead of his ACL and LCL.



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They will keep him as an insurance policy for Wentz. They should trade him to cleveland. Cleveland was going to traded a 1 and a 2 for AJ McCarron but were too late. They can easily get that from the Browns for Foles.



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Superstar wrote: He backs up Wentz on the Eagles next season. Then he leaves via Free Agency, unless they trade him at the deadline the way the Pats did with Garroppolo.

Eagles would be insane to deal him now - there is zero guarantee that Wentz will be 100% in November, nevermind opening week.


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He sticks around. 


In the bye week before the playoffs they went back and watched him 'in Chip Kellys 2013 offense' (where he had his greatest success) and tried to implement a lot of run-pass option.

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They will entertain offers but a 1st round pick will have to be part of the package. I don't think even Cleveland is stupid enough to trade the 4th pick in the draft (much less the first overall) but you never know. I think whoever doesn't get Cousins, AZ or Den, will make an offer. I just cannot see the Eagles letting him go without a 1st in the deal.

Otherwise, he stays for the year. As for the Cap, the Eagles will look to restructure Fletcher Cox and give him more money upfront that is cap friendly. Guys like Blount and Smith won't be back. They will be OK on the cap front in the end even if they keep Foles.

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The fascination with Cousins amazes me. He is the same age as Foles and has won how many playoff games? Yea, he has thrown for a ton of yards because his team is down a lot and the NFL rules favor passing. I don't know why a team would want him over Foles.

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beejmi wrote: He sticks around. 


In the bye week before the playoffs they went back and watched him 'in Chip Kellys 2013 offense' (where he had his greatest success) and tried to implement a lot of run-pass option.

He was tailor made for Chip Kelly's offense, and the stupid bastard traded him for a completely immobile Sam Bradford.  I know Bradford has an arm but after what we all saw when Foles threw for 7TDs against the Raiders in 2013 and his 28/2 TD/INT ratio, I can't believe that Kelly thought Bradford was the better option.  And after this Super Bowl, there is NOBODY that can tell me that Bradford has a bigger arm than Foles. 

That Bradford trade won you guys the Super Bowl because if they keep Foles, he plays extremely well but the team is in no way, shape, or form in any position to win a Super Bowl.  Bradford isn't the only reason Kelly got fired, but you'd think Foles would have performed well enough to have Kelly keep his job.  And Kelly would become a Marty Schottenheimer - great regular season coach that can't win in the playoffs.



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Foles actually didn't look very good in his second season under Kelly. They won some games by luck. He was indecisive. Then he got hurt. Still, I could not believe they made that deal for Bradford AND threw in a high draft pick. Bradford clearly wasn't the answer. How Roseman got a 1 for Bradford is beyond me. I know the Vikes were desperate after Bridgewater went down but no way is he worth a 1. So if Bradford is worth a 1, how can Foles not be?

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Ultimark wrote: So if Bradford is worth a 1, how can Foles not be?
I think you can look at the Garoppolo trade to gauge Foles' value.  Belichick could have gotten a 1 for him by trading him to Cleveland, but I just think he knew he was good enough to change Cleveland as quickly as he changed SF.  And also, your bargaining is a lot lower when done at the deadline.  But if I'm Roseman, I make damn sure that Carson Wentz is even stronger than he was pre-injury.  Because as a Raiders fan, I've seen Daunte Culpepper after hurting his knee not even being able to plant properly.  And I've watched Derek Carr have almost no confidence in himself after breaking his leg.  Foles is the perfect fall back if Wentz needs more time, and to be honest, they can wait it out and not hurt the future of the team.  Hell, they could tag him at seasons' end simply to trade him at that point.  When you've just won the Super Bowl because of depth that 28 other teams don't have, you don't fuck with it.



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