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 Posted: Wed Apr 11th, 2018 01:53 am
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Problems? Sure. But they're all making money hand over dick.

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Not every franchise is and some are going to have big problems very soon.

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Ultimark wrote: Not every franchise is and some are going to have big problems very soon.
No, they're all making money because of revenue sharing, and revenue has never been higher than it is now. Thanks to things like new technology, fantasy leagues and ticket re-sellers, they're taking in ridiculous amounts of money.

If "big problems" arise, they'll be manufactured by Oakland and Tampa, which want new venues. But they're not genuine, and there are no viable relocation sites left so there isn't a lot of leverage.

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Yeah, which franchises are hurting?

The Pirates were in the black before the season began with the revenue coming in.

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 Posted: Wed Apr 11th, 2018 08:22 pm
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If you look at MLB attendance over the past 25 or so seasons, there have been a ton of new stadiums that opened. A new stadium always get a honeymoon period of two or three seasons. Everyone wants to see it for the first time. Going to a game is a conversation topic. A game that ought to draw 22,000 would draw 40,000 instead, even chilly games in April and games in September when the home team was 18 games out of first place. The new stadium boom is over. Every team that needed one now has one, with the Dodgers and Royals getting nice renovations, except for the A's and Rays. MLB attendance will no longer get that bounce from teams drawing an extra million plus fans per season over the course of a few with it happening to more than one team at time.

MLB teams won't feel any pain in the next decade because most have local TV contracts that pay huge amounts and run for a very long time. Most MLB teams also have highly favorable revenue splits on their stadiums.

The NHL is the one that might have teams in trouble although not in the sense that any will fold or such a thing. The issue that league has, as always, is that it's more reliant on sources other than TV revenue than the NFL, MLB, and NBA by a vast distance because the league has such low TV revenues by comparison. I believe the Dodgers get more money on their local TV contract, before we add in the national money, than the NHL teams get combined off of their U.S. national TV contract with NBC. The NHL teams that would have trouble are the usual suspects like the Coyotes and Panthers who are in non traditional NHL markets with arenas located in the distant suburbs that make going to a game on a weeknight a chore many would rather leave undone. What the NHL has in its favor are enough places to put sick teams if relocation comes to pass. Quebec is an open market in Canada. There are places like Kansas City, Portland, Houston, and Cleveland off the top of my head Stateside with arenas and interest. Seattle would top the list if not for expansion likely going there.

The NHL never took proper advantage of the Gretzky era, especially after he went to LA, to get a national TV contract in the U.S. that paid big and got the league exposure. The Sports Channel America boondoggle from 1988-92 coincided with Wayne still being in his prime with the Kings and with Mario Lemieux riding high with the Penguins. The NHL has never fully recovered from that and from the lockout cancelling the 2004-05 season right when the ESPN deal was up for renewal which resulted in an offer that was a pittance and put the league on the little watched OLN and its successor Vs. until it evolved into NBC Sports Network which remains a niche channel to a great extent.

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MEts are 10 -1 who cares

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The Orioles are trying a "Kids Cheer for Free" program this year. 2 kids under the age of 9 are allowed in for free with one paying adult. Also offering $1.50 hot dogs and $4 beers:

https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-orioles-0-tickets-antidote-baseballs-attendance-woes-142016925.html

The grand experiment is barely a week old, so the Baltimore Orioles still aren’t entirely certain of the long-term effect their newest tier of ticket prices will have on the organization. It is one thing to lower the cost of getting into Camden Yards. It is something different altogether to make that price $0.

The rest of the story won't post for some reason. Available through link above

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krazykid18 wrote: MEts are 10 -1 who caresThis will make the argument presented in this thread relevant. The Mets are the hottest team in baseball and are coming home this weekend. The weather is supposed to be pretty springlike. However, they are playing a meh Milwaukee team so that might effect the attendance. Curious to see how this goes.



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freebirdsforever2001 wrote: Baseball is a boring sport.
That's not a new development.

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Papa Voo wrote: Yeah, which franchises are hurting?

Oakland. They had their revenue sharing cut 30% last year and 15 % this year by the league. They still don't give a shit. After opening day they are averaging about 9000 a game in attendance. They are offering one free game to get people back in the park. They raise their parking fees to 50 bucks this year which is insane.



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It isn't true rev share in the sense that it all equals out. It doesn't. It is a luxury tax. The Pirates have a bad deal compared to other teams. $20m in local TV rev. The Phillies have $100m and a very long deal. National contracts bring in about another $55m however that is anticipated to decline when the next cycle comes which I think is around 2020 or 2021. Can't recall offhand. Players salaries are not the only expense that teams have. Not by a long shot. The big market teams will be fine but the small market teams are going to have problems. Big problems.

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Benlen wrote: Papa Voo wrote: Yeah, which franchises are hurting?

Oakland. They had their revenue sharing cut 30% last year and 15 % this year by the league. They still don't give a shit. After opening day they are averaging about 9000 a game in attendance. They are offering one free game to get people back in the park. They raise their parking fees to 50 bucks this year which is insane.
Miami obviously.  

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So you have Oakland in big trouble? Out of 30 franchises? Someone is always last in revenue.

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Mia, det, balt, kc, sea, tor lost money last year.



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