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Scoring is out of control.

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Good God, no. No one gives a rat's ass about the CFL. There used to be an owner
who owned 2 teams. There were 2 teams with the same name years ago.
The NFL isn 't that bad. Scoring will come down.

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lobo316 wrote: Good God, no. No one gives a rat's ass about the CFL. There used to be an owner
who owned 2 teams. There were 2 teams with the same name years ago.
The NFL isn 't that bad. Scoring will come down.


How exactly will scoring come down when every rule change every year is designed to handcuff defenses?  Scoring will only go up.



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That's ok with me. Let Mahomes toss 50 TD's

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Principal_Raditch wrote: That's ok with me. Let Mahomes toss 50 TD's
He might do that in one game. 



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So far this season there have beem 2,980 points scored in 63 games. That works out to 47.3 points per game. However, four weeks is not, in my opinion, properly indicative of how the season's total scoring will unfold because teams have had September to play in generally ideal weather. When the temperatures drop and precipitation increases, scoring tends to subside. We also get bad teams mentally fading away as hope dissipates.

To see how scoring compared from 2017 to the past, I picked out a random year in each of the preceding decades since the merger. In 1973 the rules were much more in favor of the defense because offensive players could be physically harassed (bump and run) all the way down field. There were some other factors favoring the defense as well. Note as well that the 2 point conversion was not adopted by the NFL until 1994. That is important to scoring because it is now easier for a team that's behind to comeback. An 8 point deficit is now a 1 TD game instead of a 2 TD game.

1973 - 38.9

1981 - 41.3

1997 - 41.5

2005 - 41.2

2017 - 43.4

For all the talk of scoring being high in 2017, it wasn't significantly greater than since the pass defense rules were changed in the late 1970s. It will be interesting to see if the current 47.3 scoring rate continues. Even then, that's only about 6 points more than in 1981.

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lobo316 wrote: Good God, no. No one gives a rat's ass about the CFL. There used to be an owner
who owned 2 teams. There were 2 teams with the same name years ago.
The NFL isn 't that bad. Scoring will come down.


Hey! Leave the C(Crappy) F(Farceball) League alone.

Seriously though many games are entertaining. Field is longer and we have one less down here.

How is it than NFL teams sometimes can't get 10 yards in three tries and sometimes 4?

The rules are stupid in both leagues so scores will go up in most games.

But even on the weekend in the offense only my Blue Bombers beat the High powered Edmonton Eskimos 30-3 in Edmonton.  Only a FG the whole game to a team averaging 30 points a game.



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tamalie wrote: So far this season there have beem 2,980 points scored in 63 games. That works out to 47.3 points per game. However, four weeks is not, in my opinion, properly indicative of how the season's total scoring will unfold because teams have had September to play in generally ideal weather. When the temperatures drop and precipitation increases, scoring tends to subside. We also get bad teams mentally fading away as hope dissipates.

To see how scoring compared from 2017 to the past, I picked out a random year in each of the preceding decades since the merger. In 1973 the rules were much more in favor of the defense because offensive players could be physically harassed (bump and run) all the way down field. There were some other factors favoring the defense as well. Note as well that the 2 point conversion was not adopted by the NFL until 1994. That is important to scoring because it is now easier for a team that's behind to comeback. An 8 point deficit is now a 1 TD game instead of a 2 TD game.

1973 - 38.9

1981 - 41.3

1997 - 41.5

2005 - 41.2

2017 - 43.4

For all the talk of scoring being high in 2017, it wasn't significantly greater than since the pass defense rules were changed in the late 1970s. It will be interesting to see if the current 47.3 scoring rate continues. Even then, that's only about 6 points more than in 1981.
The higher scoring this year has been skewed by all the roughing the passer calls, many of which were a result of a strict interpretation of a misguided new rule.  Increased scoring is a long term trend in the NFL because most new rules penalize the D in one way or another.  Except for the extra point being moved back but 1 point doesn't make much of a difference.  I think the trend line will work back towards the 17 scoring but will still be higher because of the first few weeks. 

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Rule changes  favor the offense constantly now bc of the popularity of fantasy football. Just my opinion.

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NFL average passer rating this year higher than Joe Montana's career average

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beejmi wrote: Rule changes  favor the offense constantly now bc of the popularity of fantasy football. Just my opinion.
100% agree.  There is a huge amount of money involved and fantasy football keeps people watching.  That equals ad revenue. 

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Ultimark wrote: beejmi wrote: Rule changes  favor the offense constantly now bc of the popularity of fantasy football. Just my opinion.
100% agree.  There is a huge amount of money involved and fantasy football keeps people watching.  That equals ad revenue. 

It has just as much to do with injuries and trying to prolong the careers of stars, and keep public pressure regarding CTE at bay. 



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srossi wrote: Ultimark wrote: beejmi wrote: Rule changes  favor the offense constantly now bc of the popularity of fantasy football. Just my opinion.
100% agree.  There is a huge amount of money involved and fantasy football keeps people watching.  That equals ad revenue. 

It has just as much to do with injuries and trying to prolong the careers of stars, and keep public pressure regarding CTE at bay. 
Which goes back to lawsuits which goes right back to money.

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Last year there 8 games in which a QB threw for 400 yards. 12 already this year.

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Yea, it is unreal. Some of it is that the D's are afraid to even touch QB's now. Some of it is really good QB play. The kid with KC is something else.

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